What If GPS Fails?

from the preparing-for-the-worst dept

Wired Magazine has an article wondering just what would happen if the GPS system failed. They point out the number of industries that have become somewhat reliant on the system that is run by the US Air Force and uses 28 satellites - eighteen of which are older than their intended life span. Of course, the system is designed to be somewhat redundant, so there would likely be a "degradation" in service rather than it disappearing completely. However, the article suggests that it's about time we get a new GPS system up and flying, owned by private companies.
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  1. identicon
    dorpus, 21 Apr 2003 @ 4:34am

    Rocket dot com

    Private "enterprises" for rocketry have appeared every month for a few decades now. Iridium has been the most successful so far in that arena. So let's see, how exactly is a company supposed to make money from GPS services? Do users have to download banner ads first before they can see their coordinates?

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  2. identicon
    xdroop, 21 Apr 2003 @ 7:45am

    CLinically Thick

    OK, exactly how would this business model work? You are going to beam information down to the surface of the earth, where anyone can receive it. If you use fancy encryption, someone will break it. If you use a proprietary algorythm to figure out location, someone will buy one of your 'blessed' devices and either hack it or reverse engineer it.


    I know, I know! They should use it as a loss-leader for promoting something else! That's right, launch a whole whack of very expensive satelites, and let people use them for free!


    Not in this lifetime.

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  3. icon
    Mike (profile), 21 Apr 2003 @ 8:45am

    Re: CLinically Thick

    You mean companies aren't making money on GPS right now? The value of the GPS satellites is clearly pretty strong in selling devices and services that support it. There's plenty of money to be made no matter how you do it.

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  4. identicon
    Denis DImick, 21 Apr 2003 @ 11:37am

    Not verey weel thought out.

    As long as we have "Smart" boms there's going to be a GPS system. Also the Russians have one. This is one of resons the US finally stoped screwing with the Civl. side of it.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Apr 2003 @ 10:24pm

    What if.... hell, find out:

    If you want to find out what happens when GPS failes, search google, go to RadioShack to buy the parts and drive to the approach paths for your local internatiaonl aiport/shipping port/whatever and find out. It's not that hard folks.

    What you'll find is that almost every major, potential WoMD system has a backup. How fluent the folks are who run/drive those systems are... well, let's just say that's what you'll actually discover. BTW, it helps if you perform your little experiment in absolutely shitty weather conditions where visual navigation is impossible.

    A couple of comments from/to other posters:

    The companies that build GPS equipment didn't put the satellite's up. It just so happens to be cheaper to do a one-time install of electronics than run around replacing precision ball bearings on all of the missle fleet every 5 years. The civilian applications are just a side-effect. With that said, you can be quite sure that, in the future, civilian side applications of GPS will become a growing part of the GPS satellites are maintained and replaced (remember, we have spares up there already... screw jamming the GPS signle, it's not that hard to strap a missle to a high performance fighter jet and shoot these satellites down... no shit, it's been done).

    > [...] Iridium has been the most successful so far in that arena< br>
    ROLF... thanks, I needed a good laugh. If Iridium is a measure of success, then I sure as hell don't want to know what your measure of failure is...

    Yes, the Sovits have GOLNAS and the Europeans want their own system as well (they don't trust either of the former superpowers (and keep in mind, that's their thought process at work, not mine)). There was talk in Aviation Leak and Spy Technology as far back as 10 years ago about building dual band positioning receivers; however, I believe such optimism has been tempered by the credability of the Soviet/European space programs.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Apr 2003 @ 10:28pm

    Re: Rocket dot com

    I'd put my money on scaled composites before anything else. First guy to grab the X prise and then put humans in to low earth orbit (within about a year or so) is going to be the hottest property on the planet.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Apr 2003 @ 10:33pm

    Re: CLinically Thick

    > OK, exactly how would this business model work?< br>
    Step 1. you lock-in ~250 million tax payers...

    Step 2. ?

    Step 3. Someone (no, not you) profits.

    Funny thing is that Joe Bubba is happy because he can still find his favorate Bass fishing spot after his second six pack.

    And you know... as long as Joe Bubba is happy fishing for Bass instead of blowing up Federal Building Real Good (tm), everyone is happy!

    How long have you been in this country anyway?

    link to this | view in thread ]


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