Are Aliens Hiding Their Messages?

from the alien-encryption dept

Roland Piquepaille writes "In an article to appear on May 10, the New Scientist carries a fascinating answer to the problem of why we never -- yet -- caught any signals from extraterrestrial civilizations. In a preview to the article, they say: "Two physicists have come up with an intriguing solution. They suggest a way in which aliens could send messages to each other across space that not only disguises their locations but also makes it impossible for a casual observer to even distinguish the messages from background noise. Messages sent by this method could be criss-crossing our Galaxy without us ever knowing." Check my blog for more comments, including how it is possible and what would be a potential usage for such a technique." I wouldn't exactly call that an "answer" to the question, but rather a theory. Also, it does seem like an odd bit of research, trying to prove why something that's never happened hasn't happened - on the assumption that something we have absolutely no proof exists, does so.
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  1. identicon
    Sammy Poe, 8 May 2003 @ 11:24am

    This is a dumb

    Aliens? Aliens?!

    This tech forum is posting pseudoscience articles about Aliens?

    "We have never met aliens and now cannot see or hear aliens because they are hiding thier messages and presence from us." says the piece.

    Am I the only one who finds this arguement ridiculous? My idea "We have never met aliens and now cannot see or hear aliens because they have taken a vow of silence." seems just as logical.

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  2. identicon
    mgallagher, 8 May 2003 @ 12:04pm

    Not dumb in the least

    What these guys are addressing is a (possibly true, possibly not) story about Enrico Fermi (the paradox mentioned in the article). As the story goes, a bunch of Fermi's collegues were sitting around going on and on about the possiblity of alien life in outer space. The general consensus was that given the (relative) commoness of the components of life, the abundance of stars and the amount of time to work with, there must be life elsewhere.

    Erico told them there weren't any aliens and that he could prove it.

    When asked for an explanation he said something like this: If you do the math, if aliens never got any smarter than us, never lived any longer than us, never developed "magic" technologies like faster than light travel, then if you make a few reasonable assumptions about distances between stars, time between expeditions, etc. - you could have the entire galaxy colonized in about 8 million years or so - if each new colony begat two new ones.

    If that were true, Fermi argued, you shouldn't be able to miss the aliens. Alien transmissions should clog our airwaves, alien artifacts should be strewn all over every inhabitable planet. After all, the galaxy has been around for 10 billion or more years. Every star could have been colonized over and over.

    So what the guys at UHM are trying to do is resolve this seeming contradiction. How can the building blocks of life be so common and the presence of life be so rare? There are a number of explantions that have been tried: we're unique; we're the first technical civilization; we're the last civilization; civilizations are common, but very short lived (we've only been noisy for 80 or so years); or radio is a short-lived technology, and civilizations only use it for a few hundred years and move on to modulated neutrino beams or some other gizmo we haven't stumbled on yet.

    My favorite is Carl Sagan's reply to the Fermi Paradox when he said, "Well, I imagine there were ants crawling all over the Colossus of Rhodes." Kind of puts it in perspective.

    So, I don't think this is dumb at all, it's a novel approach to an intellectual puzzle. Plus, they may be on to some cool real-world applications, which only goes to show, you never know what you'll need to research.

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  3. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 8 May 2003 @ 5:05pm

    and the waward for the most prevalent life form go

    ...entropy

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    dorpus, 9 May 2003 @ 12:17am

    What about interstellar spam?

    It could be that the most common transmissions in the universe are for MAKING NIOBIUM FA$T, HOT GREEN TENTACLES, A$TEROID REAL ESTATE DEALS.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    thecaptain, 9 May 2003 @ 8:01am

    to quote Calvin:

    Sometimes I think the surest proof that there's intelligent life out there is that none of it has tried to contact us.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. identicon
    Ty Fighder, 9 May 2003 @ 8:44am

    Messages

    I never understood why anyone thought aliens would use means of communication that we *could* track. Only way to colonize would be to use some kind of faster-than-light travel (or something with that effect), impossible as that is... so they'd have to be able to communicate at a similar rate with similar technology. None of which we can credibly imagine right now.
    But realistically, the universe is amazingly vast, and ridiculously long. The idea of two civilizations being at the right level of technology and within a reasonable distance of each other at the right time in history is hard to swallow at best. And that's not counting in all the various planet-killing meteors and other natural disasters that have been a part of this world, and presumably many if not most others.

    Then there's evolution itself to consider - perhaps the question should be why no other species in the millions that have inhabited this world before us have been this intelligent. Looking at it from that perspective, we're a freak blip on *this* world - puts the odds against it in many others, doesn't it?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. identicon
    Sebastain Bolanos, 27 Aug 2003 @ 4:28am

    Re: to quote Calvin:

    Well, If theres intelegent life in your brain, there must be up there!

    link to this | view in thread ]


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