The EFF vs. The RIAA
from the epic-battles dept
USA Today is running a profile of the Electronic Frontier Foundation comparing them to the RIAA. It points out, at the beginning, that the RIAA's new Chairman will get a $1 million salary, which is half the entire annual budget of the EFF. While the article quotes a top lawyer at Verizon (who battled the RIAA against revealing subscriber names) saying that she was surprised at how sharp the EFF folks were, it also quotes a (non-RIAA, but still industry backed) lobbyist saying simply, "The EFF's basic stance on most issues is plain wrong." His reasoning for this is that he's too uncreative to come up with other ways for the music industry to make money. Why is it that people who are so uncreative assume that obsolete business models need to be forced on everyone else, just because they can't come up with a better business model. If he were in charge a hundred years ago, he'd have outlawed automobiles, since he wouldn't see any other way for horse and buggy makers to make a living.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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One partisan against another
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Ease of a crime does not make it right.
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Everyone please calm down...
There are two lines of argument for why the approach of the entertainment industry is undesireable:
1) It's bad economic sense. The underlying technology has changed and the marginal cost of production of thier product now approaches zero. The resulting decline in scaricity will push the price of the product to zero in a competative market, unless externalities (i.e. government protected monopolies) are maintained. Monopolists nearly always produce less and charge more than would otherwise be allocatively efficient. In other words it might be good for a very small number of firms, but bad for everybody else.
2) It's bad social sense. The EFF's position frequently refers to the problem of setting precedent upon which further legal interpretations are based. They aren't all that concerned with Britney Spears, so much as they are concerned with the trend toward increasing control of knowledge by a relatively small number of entities and the long term implications that has for the progression of society. OK, a little longhair-academic perhaps. But a completly valid point, especially if you read such books as James Burke's "The Knowledge Web".
So yes, from the RIAA's perspective, the EFF's positions are wrong because they would hurt revenue in the next quarter. There are, however, much bigger fish to fry here.
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No Subject Given
The EFF aren't anti-RIAA, nor is the copyright bargain our only cause. We are not trying to protect outlaws but to reframe laws and punishments to be fair.
We're concerned with the currently unbalanced state of the copyright bargain, but also with the unbalanced state of many civil and human rights as they are expressed through electronic media.
Censorship? Privacy? Virtual property? Check out eff.org's "issues" page to see the real scope of the Electronic Freedom Foundation.
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Isn't that exactly what the open source movement is doing? Software and other IP has become less and less of a commodity. It's the natural progression of things. This isn't bad, if you can figure out ways to cope/deal with it. Look at IBM. That's a company that has adapted their business model to deal with a changing world. If they didn't they'de be dead, and they know it. But people in the music industry aren't as bright. They would rather sue everyone in the world than actually pay attention to brining in money. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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bad analogy
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Re: bad analogy
Nope. Yours is the wrong analogy by assuming that copying a digital good is somehow the same thing as stealing a tangible good.
Here's why the buggy analogy works: The music industry is not really in the "music industry", they're in the music distribution industry. Right now, they prefer distribution via the very inefficient means of CDs. Along comes some folks who have created a much more efficient distribution mechanism: peer-to-peer file sharing, and the music industry is freaking out because it turns their whole economic model upside down.
The horse and buggy industry was really the "transportation vehicle" industry. Automobiles came along and were much more efficient mechanisms for transporting people, and thus the horse and buggy makers had to adjust.
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By not recognizing the need to change their distribution methods or at least offer alternatives early on, the labels let an alternative distribution system develop that has no revenue stream.
What was previously paid for is now "free", but it is basically the same product. To turn that revenue stream back to the labels the cost is going to have to be very low (something they won't accept) and the penalty for trying to circumvent the system has to be onerous. They're sure working on that one.
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Considering it was one or more anonymous trollers who started this off with rediculous trolls, I am not sure why everyone is getting hot over it.
Neither Mike nor anyone else including the EFF is saying that p2p networks practicing wholesale "music sharing" (or "theft" as some here keep spouting, particularly the small minded Anonymous Trollers,) is good for the industry. What they are saying is that digital distribution is far better than CD-distribution, and the RIAA doesn't want digital distribution because they cannot place a good, competitive (or in the case of the RIAA, anticompetitive) value on the cost of a song sent through digital distribution channels.
It is a fact, that until recently, the RIAA was against all forms of digital distribution, not because of "illegal file sharing," but because it didn't work well into their business model. And like has been said here already, the competition that will eventually put the small-minded RIAA out of business will not be the "file traders", but the musicians who realize that the RIAA is a no-win situation, and will choose to instead provide their music through digital distribution channels which are fair for both the musician and the consumer, instead of the entirely illegal (remember, twice have they been found guilty or liable for price fixing,) immoral, and so unbelievably unfair system the RIAA has in place right now.
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