Even The Kids Today Think Modern Music Sucks
from the wake-up-call-for-music-execs dept
One of the arguments that many people have made concerning an alternative explanation for the decline in music sales is that today's music just isn't that good. A lot of people shrugged that off, though, as being typical snobbery of people who always think the music of their generation was better than the crap on the radio today. Well, now it seems that even many of today's kids are agreeing that music from decades past was much better than what's on the radio these days - and part of how they're figuring that out is by experimenting with such "classic" songs by downloading them online. They get their first taste from a band they like today mentioning their influences - and they also get a lot of pointers from their parents, an idea that's shocking to those of an older generation who made sure whatever they listened to was exactly what their parents didn't like. Read through the article, though, and see how many record execs are positively stunned that the kids today are actually sophisticated enough to know that the music they're pushing just isn't very good. One other interesting tidbit in the article answers some of the concerns from some that all this downloading will "unbundle" the album by getting kids interested in only downloading one song. Instead, kids are pointing out that the old albums are full of good songs, so they want the full albums. It's only when the albums are full of filler that people are willing to unbundle the album and just pick up a couple singles.
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Oh Come on ...
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But then, it's a whole lot easier to slap on a tin foil hat and complain on Internet message boards than to put your money where you mouth is, isn't it?
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no, actually, modern music DOES suck
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Todays Music
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Even the Kids Today think modern music sucks
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music industry is not in good health (refering to
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Re: Todays Music
you obviously do not play an instrument.
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No Subject Given
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What happened to musicians actualy trying to use their medium to convey a message WORTH hearing?
I dont give a flyin f*ck about what the lead singer of system of a down thinks about war and politics. If i wanted to hear about that shit i'd turn on CNN! All i want my rock stars to do is kick ass, fuck groupies, and injest copius amounts of narcotics.
Rap isnt much better, but no offense brian, rap has been underproduced tedius rythm and bass since it started. Its what makes rap .. rap.
not that i'm saying its bad. I enjoy plenty of rap songs.
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Americans are losers
MTV has killed rap, by forcing most radio stations to play their music if they want to stay on the air. I know alot of people don't consider rap music but that's not true, mainstream rap is not music. You may listen to that crappy Nelly shit and "Mr.Hardcore Bow Wow" and thats why everyone hates rap. REAL good rap is underground and lots of rap isn't just the bling, money, and hoes crap, it's real poetic forms of music.
Now rock is also being completely destroyed by mainstream bands. It's the same whiny "girlfriend-died-and-left-me-empty-in-my-soul" crap. Then again I'm not a very big fan of rock besides bands like Chevelle.
Then you have the people who claim to be fans. Once Fort Minor had Where'd You Go? as a hit, suddenly EVERYBODY liked Mike Shinoda. Real Linkin Park fans who like songs outside of Numb and Faint know what I'm talking about.
Whatever though, there really isn't anything you can do about it. This is why it's hard being my age (14) because I don't know anybody else who likes less popular artist. Most people I know won't listen to it if they can't bounce their ass to it. Americans suck.
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yea the people who are in control ruined our cultu
I found a couple people on line who are totally not big sellers who are just like the good old days and they are not old.
People should be aware that some extremely gifted people are being shoved aside for some reason to give attention to mediocrity at best.
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Re: music industry is not in good health (refering
I think MySpace has been calling out better music. Things will change. It just takes time.
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I want to be the massiah of music
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Re: Americans are losers
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SynchPedro86
Some pop groups used drum machines, but there was nothing sinful about it. They were still great to listen to and even now, people would still sing along to the chorus from Karma Chamelion or Take On Me. But you want see me listening to much post-2000 stuff because the passion is no more.
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recording tech is also to blame
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They're right, the music sucks. Here's proof:
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Tru Dat
When music became a profitable industry that could be effectively marketed, it was done so to the extreme and the average person's susceptibility and receptiveness to advertisement and marketing was exploited most heinously, as other industries have done (ie., cigarettes, alcohol, automobile, etc., etc.) previously in history and continue to.
Now, when the market becomes saturated, and production for the purpose of profit supercedes quality, you end up with a shit product. It is pretty simple. It is what happened to music and is inevitable, even the health care industry follows the same type of outline.
There are still some good bands out there, of course, but are they good because of talent, or multimillion dollar advertising and marketing schemes. Be honest with yourself and ask yourself once.
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such as nymphetamine by cradle of filth
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It's a nightmare
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only on the radio
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Look deeper
musicians,one just has to dig for them.
Most great music these days languishes with little to no support
from ginormous labels.99% of the big label's rosters are fodder.
Two of my recent newer faves are Amon Tobin and Four Tet.
These guys are making amazing music.
Peace
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That is pretty true. But still, it doesn't matter. These bands are making it pretty big right now, and they're on a roll.
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95% of music today sucks
conclution led zeppelin, cream, pink floyd, jeffeson airplane. are the really good bands. The classics are the best
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Yes most music does suck now
But here are the bands/musicians I listen to on my zune and radio, ranging from rock to disco to old school rap(it's a lot but I feel like postin them anyways): Beatles, ACDC, Pink Floyd, The Doors, Jimmi Hendrix, The Zombies, Sugarloaf, Zeppelin, Kiss, Eric Clapton, Peter Frampton, Bob Segar, Blue Oyster Cult, Carlos Santana, Queen, Aerosmith, Alice Cooper, Twisted Sister, Scorpions, Black Sabbath, Guns N Roses, KC and the Sunshine band, Heatwave, Bee Gees, Barry White, Marvin Gaye, Earth Wind and Fire, Dianna Ross, Gloria Gaynor, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince, Dire Straits, Rick James, Boyz to Men, R. Kelly, Brian McKnight, Snoop Dogg, MChammer, Beastie Boys, Goo Goo Dolls, Smashmouth, and etc.
Wide range, huh!?!? lol. But it's all soo great!!! The kids of today and young adults like myself who don't know who half of the musicians I mentioned, really should learn about them and listen to some of the stuff by them. They are really missing out. But that's just my opinon. May sound weird to many but whatever, it's just the way I feel about it.
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music sucks now
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My opinion on why today's music sucks
Did Beatles have good voices?
The pioneers are always at a great advantage over the later comers.
As for today's music, there is more bad than good. By my opinion the main reasons are:
1. Musical variants, musical note/score variations, musical combinations of sounds (whatever it's called) have been exhausted in just 50 years.
There not much left to play without getting sued by previous song authors.
2. Today's musicians have less "soul" or that "special feel" about them. Perhaps because there's less poverty, they are well fed and visually more fat/overweight.
3. An overweight person can have a good voice, perhaps sing opera, but if the whole or most of the group or ensemble is overwhelmingly overweight and grow goatees (making the 20-30 year olds look like they are 55 year old country singers). To me personally fat people with short hair don't look good on the scene.
I like the skinny tough-faced long haired guys who jump the scene with good music, not some overweigt sissies with goatees singing pee music that all sounds the same.
4. Celebrity craze is killing the music.
5. SOUL of the PLACE is as important as a SOUL of the MUSICIAN. That "something in the air" that's missing so often.
6. Everything else (the vacuum) is filled up with C/RAP.
This is my opinion. I may be wrong, but this is how I feel.
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MODERN MUSIC DOES SUCK
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Modern Music Sucks
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interesting article...
The key element is music is passion, a true love for what you do. I love living in America but frankly we are so money hungry and celebebrity hungry that we have destroyed ourselves, as far as music goes....and it really sucks as I am in the local music scene in New england and I must say I have met and seen some great bands who will never be heard cause they cant afford it.
I hope you all continue to discuss this.
-Steve
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today music does suck
whats weird to me is that when i look at modern bands today, they r trying to be like the zeppelins. the drum beats is simular to bonham's beat. i can tell cause im myself a drummer. and a lot of guitarist own the les paul gibson that looks kinda like jimmy page's. lol but u know what that has nothing to do with the topic anyways soo... haha yea enough said
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Recent Music that doesn't suck
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Today's Music
All that being said, two things should be very apparent. One, the young generations are very angry. Two, they simply lack a broader influence. In my view, neither aspect is their fault and for the older generations who share their love for music with the younger generations, thank-you. Giving back does wonders.
In some cases, repeating history is good, like with some styles of music, but usually this is translated more by influence rather than direct copy. For those musicians who blatantly copy what has come before, shame on you. What a diservice. Sell-outs !
Music is also just like nature and it has a way of working itself out of a funk, no pun intended, really. It must evolve or devolve but again, influence is paramount to keeping a link to the past. I should add that novelty music will always whore itself out to the unsuspecting public and they will of course eat it up. That is one aspect of music that should in fact, go away. It has such a destructive watering down effect.
Clearly the major record executives are facing an industry-wide nose dive of their own making and real musicians are not to blame. Well, maybe the sell-outs but they have always been around to suck what's leftover from the spoiled cream, but I digress.
Show's like American Idhole, however popular, have further entrenched the young consumer into a brainwashed state of mind and the record execs like "Simon Says" will lavishly feed on their ignorance. Lemmings make great consumers. Again, no blame can go to the young generation who is being fed this garbage. They didn't get to this point all by themselves. Perhaps the national vacumm in public music eduction in our schools should share the blame, but who voted this program out in the first place?
I directly hold accountable the parents who encourage this electronic American Idhole fanstasy but I also know how to pour sand into a rat hole.
For those that do care, slowly expose your children to all kinds of music and don't force them into or away from any one genre. Once they experience your love for a certain style or for a time period, they too will add it to their naturally progressing music education.
We are very close to a point of no return with good music as as whole so act now !
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modern music is fake
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modern music is fake
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modern music is fake
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todays rock music
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phony
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new music
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Modern music is horrible and here is the reason wh
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Small Correction
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the genre has shot its wad...
i really don't think my age has a whole lot to do with it. even when i was a teenager - with all the peer pressure to like only what your peers told you to like - if i heard a new tune, it didn't matter what era it came from or how old the artist was; or what race they were; or what sex they were; or what their political stance was; if it was a good tune, and it appealed to me, i was hooked.
i always have an open mind to new music. i WANT to like new music. there are bands and songwriters who - "on paper" - i should like. bands i WANT to like. i mean, i read their interviews and reviews in the music press. and as i read, i think, "hmmmm, they sound interesting...they say they're influenced by some of my favorite bands and songwriters". but then when i actually hear them, i am invariably disappointed at how mediocre, tuneless and unmusical they actually sound.
one theory that i have about why most current bands and songwriters are so mediocre, is because song-craftmanship is not "The Thing" anymore. it seems like, the most important thing for most artists these days is lyrics. NOT interesting melodies; not interesting rhythms; NOT interesting sounds; NOT the tension and release that effects you on a subtle, almost magical level; NOT the harmonies that make the song sound pleasing to the ear.
i'm not saying that lyrics shouldn't be important. i'm saying that it seems like artists these days aren't that interested in crafting INSPIRED, interesting songs that are musically interesting to listen to; it sounds like they are more interested in singing very wordy and self-indulgent lyrics because they mistake "being creative" with "having something to say". the music just seems to be there simply as coincidental, tertiary, generic accompaniment to the lyrics.
as much as we all hate to admit it, its looking like we have to face up to the fact that "rock 'n roll" as a genre (including pop, indy, alternative, metal, rap, r&b, electronica, etc.) has shot its wad. in the same way that opera, classical, jazz
and blues have shot their wads. the days when classical composers were coming up with fresh, exciting musical ideas is past. it is rare to find an artist in classical (or opera or blues or jazz) that is coming up with never-before-heard-of, ground-breaking ideas. that's because the genre has matured to the point where anything that anybody does now will invariably sound like something that has already been done before (and done much, much better). likewise rock/pop stuff written now just sounds like its going over the same old hackneyed ground (but with different, more wordy lyrics). "rock n roll" is in a similar stage of life as classical or opera or blues or jazz. (again, i include pop, r&b, metal, rap, indy, techno, whatever, in the same general category of "rock 'n roll")
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The one thing that all of these genres have in common is that each one is built on the same twelve note system. The frustration for today’s artists lies in the fact that they are forced to attempt to shock their fans either visually or with a barrage of explicit lyrics because all of the ideas surrounding that twelve note system were used up years ago. These two items are no longer shocking, they are simply annoying. MTV, a somewhat novel idea at first, slowly shifted the audience’s focus from the music to manufactured imagery and creativity has been on the decline ever since.
Every generation has had its share of awful music, whether they want to admit it or not. Bad music transcends generations but today’s music industry seems to be overrun with individuals who have never studied the craft, yet have managed to jump on the money making bandwagon. I have no desire to return to the past so that I can turn on my radio and listen to “These Boots Are Made for Walking” by Nancy Sinatra. (ONE OF THE WORST SONGS EVER RECORDED)………If not for her famous father’s name, that record never would have seen the light of day.
In closing, I’d like to say that I don’t know many people my age that can’t use the internet because members of the so-called “summer of love” generation were around during the ARPANET project in 1969. That project laid the groundwork for the development of TCP/IP and eventually the internet as we know it today. I am more than capable of utilizing all that the web has to offer but I’m not going to spend hours and hours searching it’s hidden corners, working my way through all of the awful music that’s out there to seek out the few bands (and they do exist) that can really play. It will be very interesting when this same conversation is taking place in the year 2047 when your generation is attempting to defend today’s “music” against whatever art form carries that title then.
PEACE
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I totally agree with you there. No prizes to who guesses who you were reffering to in the last sentence *cough* linkin park. Well, there are some bands that still seem to be mainstrean AND good (U2, Green Day, Avenged sevenfold, although radio stations are afraid to play the latter due to being to "risky").I just hope it gets better, because i love REAL music, and i'm starting a metal/rock band now. We have to be carefull not to become sad posers, though.
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We're to blame too
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Re: shut up and find it...your arguements are all
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MTV SUCKS Ass,DEATH TO MTV,MTV SUCKS EMO SUCKS EMO SUCKS,LETS BURN THE CDS IN SOME SUPERBOWL
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modern music blows
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today s music still sucks
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Lets Do it
lets scream lout
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
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MTV SUCKS!HIP HOP SUCKS!EMO SUCKS!!
MTV SUCKS!MTV SUCKS!!MTV SUCKS!!!
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your right.
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(don't you just hate typos)
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It's true
Mainstream music has been garbage since the mid 90s when Korn and Limp Bizkit demonstrated that you don't need talent to become a multi-millionaire in the music business. All you need is a gimmick. Every mainstream type of music nowadays is based on image. Possibly the most extreme example is "gangsta" rap, in which you cannot get a record deal unless you have a criminal record. All pop music talks about is sex and failed relationships. Emo is the most retarded thing I've ever seen. And modern mainstream rock consists of watered-down, talentless, boring, stand-for-nothing bands with no balls like Nickelback and 3 Doors Down. And crappy retro bands like Jet.
The only good bands nowadays are underground metal and indie bands. Everything else is targeted at brainless idiots.
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YOU ARE ALL INSUFFURABLE!
Yes, the radio and MTV don't know jack about what the people want, and people are slowly abandoning them because of it.
also, anyone who says that they hate all (ALL) mainstream music, is just trying to be cool.
Hating a band because of their image, or hating a band because of there childish fanbase, are NOT GOOD REASONS TO HATE A BAND.
The only right way to properly judge music, is by listening to a lot of music, and comparing quality.
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Freeze!Anonymous Coward!
MY SPACE SUCKS!!GOOGLE SUCKS!!LAST FM!!SUCKS A LOT BY THE WAY!!
MY SPACE SUCKS!!GOOGLE SUCKS!!LAST FM!!SUCKS A LOT BY THE WAY!!
MY SPACE SUCKS!!GOOGLE SUCKS!!LAST FM!!SUCKS A LOT BY THE WAY!!
MY SPACE SUCKS!!GOOGLE SUCKS!!LAST FM!!SUCKS A LOT BY THE WAY!!
MY SPACE SUCKS!!GOOGLE SUCKS!!LAST FM!!SUCKS A LOT BY THE WAY!!
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we know
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hi
Elvis Presley - Baby, Let's Play House
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Anoymous"indie"coward is GAYeatshit
you are a just a Indie Queer,anonymous coward,
typical of indie/emo turds,if everybody that is reading
it are tired of the"homossexualization"of "rock"today
lets start a war,one here right now,if you see a emo
or indie or another mtv spawn on street,kick his ass
or kill him with a gun,period.Its time to change this game
now its the time,lets unite our forces to stop this
assholes,cause they deserve it and are begging for it.
no place for this suckers anymore,its time to fight for
real.We Will Never forgive this people in generations,and when they will get older,they will known as the main guilt for XXI century s music idiotisczism.so Kill them all
INDIE SUCKS!!!
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Indie sucks
you are a just a Indie Queer,anonymous coward,
typical of indie/emo turds,if everybody that is reading
it are tired of the"homossexualization"of "rock"today
lets start a war,one here right now,if you see a emo
or indie or another mtv spawn on street,kick his ass
or kill him with a gun,period.Its time to change this game
now its the time,lets unite our forces to stop this
assholes,cause they deserve it and are begging for it.
no place for this suckers anymore,its time to fight for
real.We Will Never forgive this people in generations,and when they will get older,they will known as the main guilt for XXI century s music idiotisczism.so Kill them all
INDIE SUCKS!!!
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Re:new bands arent all bad
....I recommend a band named preachers gun who are underground at the moment. video can be found on youtube under preachersgun........
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Musicians that have left a mark
pretty much anything made in the 00's is unoriginal,and a complete sell-out, the artists are used to portray an image by the record companies to brainwash all the tweenies who look for a role model in the impressionable lives.
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Musicians that have left a mark
pretty much anything made in the 00's is unoriginal,and a complete sell-out, the artists are used to portray an image by the record companies to brainwash all the tweenies who look for a role model in the impressionable lives.
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Kick executives s asses
so called music industry executives and owners.ThEse
Assholes are the guilt,they must pay,i cursed them for
ever,we need a record companies demolition night,Death
to Sony,warner,Universal,Sub Pop,EMI,all this shit
boycott,sabotage&attack!!thats the key..
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I probably dont think like you but we're fighting
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My Opinion About Music
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Re: todays rock music
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Re: Todays Music
Its all imitation of other artists and if you really listen to the lyrics, you'll see that most people just like the beat{because its so great:( }.Man,even the shows about searching for female and male singers or the best bands sucks. Almost all of mainstream music that is on tv, radio, movie soundtracks,and more is pure garbage. They are just songs purely for ringtones,and club songs to dance to. Music used to much more than that.Also I don't know what rappers you hear or listen to somewhat. But rap music is an art form just like rock,gospel, pop, r&b, country, opera, reggaeton, reggae and more. You're just probably hearing or listening to the mainstream rap which I agree with a lot of people is pure garbage with the exception of a few.
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Re: We're to blame too (partly)
lyrics are not always what makes a good song, beethoven for expample? bach? zeppelin's stairway to heaven where the lyrics make almost no sense but MATCH THE FEEL OF THE INSTRUMENTS.
FUCK MONEY FUCK MONEY! FUCK..THE..MONEY..FEEL MUSIC AND FREE OUR MIND HOURS ON END, CAN YOU DO THAT WITH YOUR PANIC AT THE DISCO SHIT ???????????????
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music industries hurt
I'm not gonna type in all the fuckin bands i listen to like a medal of honor cause theres not enough time in the day. lets just say my highlights are beethoven, metallica, and everley brothers haha :D
Every one of you have made a damn good point: society is all about your fuckin image! AH!!!!!. i swear these fuckin pixelated black letters in forms of words do not even come close to the feelings i have for society and these fuckin drones walking around like they are the baddest fuckin speck of shit ever washed ashore from a shit ship. the fuck is with these egotistical people? they are so goddamn wrapped up in themselves (americans, and yes i am american) and its goddamn worthy of a fat slap in our fat fuck nations face for all i care. i love this country but please, clean out your polluted, diluted, watered down, screaming, whiny, gangster wannabe, bling bling cha ching, limited power chord playin ASS and let the real talent get the spotlight you fuckin pricks!
I am so FUCKING PISSED OFF! YO, YOU WATCH THE NEWS LATELY?
...there was actually a headline on the news that shocked me like a fuckin' light socket. the top story of that time was, yes get ready..."Is Britney Spears one of the Top American Cultural Icons"
WHAT
THE
FUCK?
i dont even want to get started on "NEWS" and them mainstream, money hungry, cock suckers.
save music people, i am willing to storm center field next superbowl, and burn emo cd's and take a shit on every last one of them with you!
please contact me if you wanna discuss or vent/share ideas or philosophy :D
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DEATH TO TODAY S POP MAFIA!CAUSE IT SUCKS!!WAR!!!
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There still is a lot of good music today
Radio and TV music is for kids, so grow up and move on to a different venue. You did it with Sesame Street and other kiddie shows you use to watch when you were young and don't watch anymore, so the same thing applies to where you use to get your music from, move on and come out of your state of arrested development where music is concerned.
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DEATH TO MTV!DEATH TO EMO!DEATH TO HIP HOP!DEATH TO INDIE!!
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And music execs have been pointing the finger at P2P downloads, but the truth is that today's music is really bad.
Don't believe me? name me one great song in the last 8 years? Quick!!! See..I can't name one that fast.
Music in the late 60's was good. In the 70's it was really good, and the 80's, guess it depends how much you liked 70's music, but there were a lot of great albums and bands in the 80's. So much so that bands back than would sell out stadiums in a couple of hours. Name one band today that can do that? Not to mention that everyone knows music from those past decades. That alone is testament to how good was. And it still plays on the radio constantly. Why is that?
Than the 90's came along and the music industry never seemed to recover from the grundge movement. In the mid 90's there were bands like Oasis, The Cranberries, and Radiohead that tried to revive the industry but record execs only cared about the likes of Britney and teen pop "sensations" and completely forgot about music altogether.
And when music sales started declining, instead of blaming themselves for their incompetence in finding talent, they pointed the finger at the internet and P2P.
The truth is people have stopped buying albums because every album these days only has 1 or 2 decent songs which by the way, get forgotten in a matter of months. When was the last time anyone bought an album and said "man, this is destined to be a classic"?
Why pay $15.00 for one decent song when that song can be easily downloaded?
Even my 16 year old brother has a hard time finding good music these days. A quick look in his ipod and I can see a large collection of 80's music, some late 70's and a bit from the 90's but not much from this past decade. And looking at his cds, I can see a AC/DC, Scorpion, Oasis, U2...but nothing recent.
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There are artists on the fringe of the mainstream, independent and underground acts who are pushing the boundaries of great music. Granted, most of these will not appeal to your casual mainstream radio listener but since creating a great song with pop hooks has been done to death its no wonder most stuff today is shite.
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Homomusicality
Examples - Back in the 80's, you had tons of different genres of music
• Rock
• Rap
• Funk
• Disco
• Jazz
• Hair Metal
• Punk
• (My fav) New Wave
And tons of different styles that I don't have the time to name. The problem is one day, some idiot at MTV heard a specific kind of music, (Rap) and said "I like that, let's just play that on our channel." Thing is, the station isn't called RTV, and with the industry shoving it down our throats. People now really don't watch MTV, but back then, when rap took over, people still watched because of its goodness years back, and stil, lets say, trusted it. Well, you had these nine-year-olds and ten-year-olds watching MTV, and if you listen to anything enough, you'll start to love it, no matter how much you originally hated it. (Which is how I got my friends to like it.... Ahahaha I'm so evil lolz) Okay so, the kids liked what they saw and, (Suprise!) tried to copy it. The real problem is since they all tried to copy it, you have 500,000 copies of the same song sung by different people. Don't get me wrong, there IS good music out there, it's just hiding in the shadows. BTW, I'm thirteen.
P.S - To the dude who said Americans suck:
Wanna get a brain cuz apparently you don't have one... you're just a stereotypical jerk who blames all of his problems on the government. Get a life and stop whining on the Internet. If you want to make a difference then get off the computer.
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Modern Music CAN be good.
Examples of this recycled culture abound. Samuel Barber's Adagio for strings is a classic that we've probably all heard and can relate to. Some might say it's overplayed, but regardless it's one of the greats. What happens in today's music industry is that people like DJ Tiesto and similar "artists" remix their work. This is fine when used in clubs for something to rave to, but the problem comes when it is put forward as art in it's own right and we're expected to listen to it in our homes, where there's no trippy lighting or ecstasy, and we realise that the music itself is poor at best. Meanwhile, so much money has already been made out of this music in its original setting, that this is the music the radio stations and music channels push. As far as the statistics are concerned this is the music the people want, so this is what the people are given. People are becoming so naturalised to this process that it has become seemingly unstoppable.
R'n'B and Metal are two other examples, showing a different way in which music has become watered down. In both these genres there seems to have been a decline in originality, not necessarily bands copying songs but reducing them down to only the parts that were widely popular and thus coming out with repetetive sounding, moronic rubbish. When I listen to the likes of Evanescence and Usher today - mainstream examples of each of the aforementioned genres - or at least this is what we're told they are, I hear the basics of rhythms and melodies that made bands like Pantera famous, but without any of the personality that made them great.
But never fear, the end is NOT nigh! There are plenty of great bands out there! Being a fan of the metal scene myself I can assure you that the metal world in particular is cooking up a storm. With bands such as Wintersun and Children of Bodom pushing the technical limits of the guitar further than ever before (hear Jari Maenpaa's solo on Death and the Healing by Wintersun for examples, just search for Wintersun on myspace music), we also see other bands showing increasing maturity. Opeth is one band that pushes the boundaries of their genre beyond what is normally expected, and their deeply disturbing lyrics and melodies will send a shiver through any spine with a few nerves left in it after the 90s. The digital age has allowed such bands more exposure than they would have ever seen in the so-called "glory years" of music back in the 60s. When Death Metal originally came out in the 80s it was regarded with contempt from much of the music industry, and was an underground movement from start to finish. Now, in the 00s it is making a recovery, extreme metal is surfacing in a much more aggressive guise, and it is beginning to be regarded with respect. You have all been calling for a new genre to emerge, and this may well be it. You will probably find you don't like it if you are of the previous generation. But your parents didn't like your music either.
So there we have it. Modern music can be good, actually. I have focused on the metal scene because that is what I know in depth, but be assured there are similar movements within all the varied sections of music. If you are determined to focus on the mainstream and mediocre so be it, but YOU will be the ones missing out. You tell my generation that we are missing out on your over-hyped, over-played golden oldies, but I say it is you who are missing out, by your stubborn refusal to research anything new which you do not understand beyond surface level. There is a world of amazing new music out there, if only you would try and find it. But I speak futility. You will continue to listen to the same bands from the 60s and 70s over and over again. You hair will turn greyer and the world will continue to turn. No matter. I'm gonna keep listening to modern music whether you like it or not.
NB: I'm 18. If you see this as an excuse to call me an idiot, or say I don't know shit, feel free, but be warned; you'll look like a cretin.
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It's not metal or rock
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Rob,You Suck,and "Alternative"too
this is the brand new scuse to POP sucks so much
NIN,Korn,Ministry,Static X?do you think this POP SHIT is rock?Rock is not Dead,Metal is not Dead,YOU and all
Fashionists are Dead,you are Living-Dead MTV lovers.
Marlyn Manson=POP.
So,Learn,90 S SUCKS,GRUNGE SUCKS,"Alternative"POOP ANTI-MUSIC SUCKS
and of course HIP HOP SUCKS AT ALL TOGETHER WITH THIS POP SHIT.Stop to call Real bands like Beatles or Led Zeppelin"classic",old is your mothers,fashionists.Thats the difference between music that are for decades and today s one hit wonders.
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Beck?
so..dont believe in the hype...
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Or should I say "Mass Produced"
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By the way Joe Shmoe
Here let me get you started:
has been tunes
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Hey,wait..
we must bring back MUSIC AGAIN....
its a matter of action...
how about...MTV-MAJORS SUCKS MOVEMENT?
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oll right
I think will be awsum...
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BRING BACK SOUL!KILL ALL THUG ASSHOLES!!GET UP AND FIGHT!
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!!!! Are you F#king kidding me??? You can't even spell messiah you idjit!!
This my friends is why we have a problem today. A lot of kids are too damn lazy to take the time and effort it takes to learn, understand and play music. Too many think that if they can yodel/mumble/pigsqueal(omg!)... along to their favorite MP3 - then they are the next music messiah!! Jeezus!!! Thanks much you stupid juveniles for killing a wonderful art!
For those that are serious about music - take a look at the fine arts... if you can hang, then more power to ya! If you can't, quit calling yourselves musicians. Hell, even the Beatles knew a thing or two about string quartets.
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"well... they must be good... they are selling a lot." (what a clever girl you are!).. why don't you just say - The record company told me it was good... so it must be...
God, we are so screwed!!!
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Case in point, listen to Let's Groove by Earth Wind and Fire. This song is quality... composed with a lot of soul and happiness. Something modern artists are simply blind to.
HOWEVER, there is hope! There is one genre/segment of the music industry that remains to be good, if not improving over time. That genre is chill-out/house/ambient. A lot of songs in this genre are well made and always seem to make me feel good, not unhappy. Check it out!
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Step 3, realize you are never going to find any kind of decent music on that shit-box known as a radio. There are hundreds of good bands around still releasing albums to this day that do not in the least bit suck.
Hit up your search engine, start browsing some music forums for your prefered genre, seek and you shall find.
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Even in my music, i dont want to listen to the most popular songs out of my album because its played everywhere and is annoying to listen to. There are more than one good song a band can produce and people need to listen to more than one song on a band.
I look at people's Ipods and I sometimes see only a couple songs made by good bands, whilst elsewhere, there are 20 songs made by popular bands.
Expand your minds people to other songs people. Sheesh.
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Modern Music doesn't only include rock
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And Now Me In A Tiny Nutshell. I Am A 35 Year Old Musician, And Have Been A Disc Jockey For 15 Years. I Love Music, But I Am Very Unsatisfied With The Level Of Quality The Music Industry Has Turned Out Over The Past Decade. Annoying Midi Rythms Have Replaced Skillfull Drummers, In Many Genres. Instruments Are Phased Out And Replaced With Looped Backing Vocals That Can Only Be Produced In A Studio. I Am "Anti-American Idol" I Think The Last Thing The World Needs Is Another Sappy Pop Singer. I Have Noticed That Music Is No Longer Timeless, But Disposable. It's Good For The Couple Of Weeks It's On The Charts, Everybody Grooves To It, Then They Are Embarrased To Say They Listened To It Once It's Not "COOL" Anymore. Making Disposable Music May Be The Industries Way Of Getting Back At A The World For Piracy, I Think It Only Encourages It. Make A Product Worth Buying And People Will Buy It!!! I Like Real People Who Aren't Afraid To Listen To Music Outside Current Billboard Or At Least Respect The Songs Of The Founding Fathers Of Popular Music. In This "Reality TV" Generation, The Industry Have Discovered (Or Assume) One Thing...People Are Mindless Idiots That Will Eat Whatever You Throw At Them! Don't Settle For Table Scraps!!! Raise The Bar For The Industry. A Hit Song Doesn't Equal A Great Song!!! Decide What's Cool For You, Not What They Say Is Cool For You!
And Now The Evolution Of Songwriting...
HIT LYRICS YESTERDAY… "Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name. Nobody came. Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave. No-one was saved. All the lonely people, where do they all come from? All the lonely people, where do they all belong?"
HIT LYRICS TODAY… "Watch me crank it Watch me rollWatch me crank dat Soulja Boy,That Superman dat
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We'll agree to disagree.
When I listen to music, I either like it or I hate it. Lots of people will ignore and entire genre and its subgenres because they heard a song from it, then got the impression all other songs are the same shit. Whenever I don't like a song I find out what artist it is and stay away from their stuff. For instance: Lil' John sucks, but I don't hate all rap because of it. I don't care that he's popular, he just sucks at making even mediocre rap music.
Everyone can hate music all they want. But hating it for being popular is just dumb. Hate it for sucking, like Lil' John's "rap" or most country songs I've heard. Not to mention some people don't like you for not liking the music they do (it happens).
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But this whole thing is true. My whole freshmen year of high school, everybody were eating up metallica albums. And they thought the older ones were better.
In my junior year, kids were talking about the lists they made of the top 25 best 80's songs.
A few other people in the back of that same class were saying how great these bands all were. And also, they loved the symphonic metal (!!!) band Nightwish, saying that Tarja was the greatest singer in the world. There music (and supporting singer) sounds like something new out of the 70's or 80's. If it was the 80's, it would fit in much better yet be so distinquishable from it.
But since everyone likes garbage like Panic at the Disco, My Chemical Romance (booed off the stage in Europe more than once), and Paris Hilton.
I must also say that every kind of music from any era has it's good singers. I never liked country until I heard Keith Urban and Carrie Underwood, but I've gotten into it because of them. Heck, I didn't really like music until I heard Evanescence. I didn't like nu-metal either until I heard Linkin Park. I also hated anything dance until DHT and Cascada came along. Hippie/independent music drove me nuts too until I heard Trey (former Phish Singer) and Aslyn (check her out; she is unbelievably good). Without Ciara, I would loathe anything R&B/crunk.
Then again, if you look at Meat Loaf, he'd destroy any of these singers. Unless there foreign singers who sing rock (actual rock, not pop) or metal, the older singers were better. I must add that I'm only 19.
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However, this a very good point. They call Rihanna the next Christinia Aquilera when Rihann's 3 albums didn't sell half as much as one of Christina's.
Even Miley, whos practically the new Britanny; her album sales aren't even close to one of Britannys.
Also, new boy bands like the Jonas Brothers albums haven't sold half as much as one of the backstreet boys albums (besides the crummy new one).
I'm not entirely sure about this, but the last time I heard an album went diamond was Maroon5's debut in 2004, like 4 years ago. And Evanescence's debut before that. We were heading downhill before that but that was the real killer there.
Also, the good singers don't get the recognition they deserve, like Tarja (ex-Nightwish) or Sharon Adel, or Roy Khan from Kamelot.
In conclusion, this is all because America (and other countries as well) cannot recognize true talent. Simple as that, they are done deaf and actually stupid in some ways, not because they like what they like but because they eat up garbage that they won't like in the next 5 years or are just jumping on because it's the "Trend."
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Hit Lyrics Yesterday (2000's, mainstream): "I'll take you to the candy shop. I'll let you lick the lollipop."
(50 Cent)
Hit Lyrics Today (now) :"Caress The One That Never Fading Rain In Your Heart That Chases Snow White Sorrow caress the one Hiding Amaranth in the land of daybreak."
(Nightwish, Anette Olzon new lead singer)
Which one is actually good? Of course lyrics with a beautiful voice than a song any person who likes rap could sing. We need range, talent, good songwriting, and good instrument playing. Is that so much to ask?
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It's supposed to spark thought, which can range to any emotion. When it has no soul, it doesn't. But if it's all happy, it's just a lie (same with movies too).
The world is not happy. It never will be. But it can be good.
Life can be happy. It can be sad.
Songs from Jessica Simpson and Hannah Montana constantly promoting happiness is ridicoulous. It's stupid. THank god Miley Cyrus' albums actually see the other side now.
Seether is right with "Rise Above This," rising above the sadness or "Amaranth" by Nightwish about a never-fading hope.
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DEATH TO TOP 10!!!
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todays music is just like the 90s
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music still sucking,Kurt cobain was the main gilt
so..kill all gangstas,burn their houses
blow all radios up,with c4,death to mass media
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My friend listens to industrial rock, some band calls MSI!! I think there awful but it's his taste and I respect him for that!!! I find him frustrating because he believes older music ‘’sucks’’
Pop is pretty much dead which I think is actually sad, well maybe im just speaking for my kind of pop, 80's pop. I love 80's music, the synthesizers , that addictive wall of sound and that optimism!
Another thing, hip-hop and rap is an interesting form of music, however I preferred it when it was less commercial. The problem began when rap and r‘n‘b became watered down around 1999-2000. They have become the new pop which has made the charts massively boring. Rap was better when it was underground or less noticeable, artists like tupac and nas make 50 cent look pointless.
Alternative rock music is dead also, people who say ''you need to look for it'' are idiots, if it was so good it would get more attention, im afraid that‘s the way music is in reality unless it‘s jazz or classical which has it‘s own outlets. That's why underground bands like the pixies and rem were discovered, the buzz got around and people brought there music which made them popular. For some reason the good music of today may prefer to maintain anonymous!!
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I have the answer!
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There is hope.
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today's music DOES suck
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simple
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music has a chance...
they're actually some of the only ones putting out good rock music. It sickens me.
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Here's your problem
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Modern rock does suck
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it all sucks
there has always been bad music its not about what years it came from. when you hear bob dylan you know its him, its unique, if you tried to play elliot smith guitar then you understand the talent needed to play it. the jonas brothers have poor musical skills, average voices (which wouldn't matter if their voices were unique, but there not) and horrible lyrics. but disco was just as bad. every year of music there were bad songs, you always have to look deeper you can't just use blanket statements like new music sucks, old is good. fuckin figure it out. everything sucks. kill me.
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Ftw
I think the problem with modern pop and rock is their chord progressions. They all play them at the same steady rate and they all use chord progressions everyone's heard millions of times before. Dumbass composers especially like to use the standard arrangement of Drums+Guitars+boring 4-chord progression+"shake it baby" lyrics. WHY NOT a TWO-CHORD progression for a change? Maybe make it a bit slower and add some interesting guitar work I fill it in? People just don't put effort into songs. It's just a quick way of making some profits.
BTW, I'm suprised that this article has been active for nearly 2 years! I guees it shows how important this issue is.
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Kinda true
modern music isn't as good as new music in my opinion
but not all suck with the exception of a few
i love classic rock and rock n roll
but i like some modern bands
like system of a down
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Everybody is nostalgic for the past. Why was the old music good? Because the artists were attempting to create a sound that was like NO OTHER THAT HAD EVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. They were pushing the envelope, trying to shock and excite people. I seemed to be a pioneer of the trend of this because in the early 90's all I listened to was music from the 80's back...I wanted to get into the newer stuff but it seemed shallow, toneless, pretentious and boring in comparison. In contrast, the older music had more melody, more experimentation, more excitement to it. I felt one with the music and it made me feel chills, emotion.
Nevertheless, this celebration of old music started in the 80's, and it also started the downfall of music. From the 50's to the 80's, there was no desire to mimic the past...the past was a time to be forgotten and people believed that what they could do at the moment was better than anything before. There were no "golden oldies"...just bad adult contemporary from the 40's that nobody cared to listen born after 1945, church music, largely underground soul/jazz music, bluegrass and basically very local performers earning nothing but the pleasure of making good music.
From the 50's on, you STILL had people copying each other, shitty music, boring music. Like Motown? Note that nearly EVERY classic Motown song ultimately sounded alike at the end. Like Classic Rock? Only so many ways you can play an electric guitar. It wasn't all good, it's just that nearly everyone could find many songs/groups that absolutely stunned them and they couldn't stop playing. I rarely find songs today like that, but I do find them occassionally. I became a huge fan of Radiohead long after their peak and think that they came up with some very unique, original songs with deep lyrics like nothing I've ever heard before. Starting out a song with the lyrics "green plastic watering can" is not your typical cheesy love song, I'm a bad ass teenage p*ick song or I'm a 40 year old fart that thinks Pink Floyd-Metallica-AC/DC is better than all bands that ever recorded before or since and nobody better disagree or else they're fans of disco and probably lame.
What makes today's music sucks is that they are finding convenient to cash in on the past with semi-nostalgic tunes with stupid lyrics, corny hooks and intros, saying the same thing over and over and tired formats, but disguising this by appealing to teenage rebellion by ever increasingly smutty, slutty, sleazy anti-everything lyrics...basically shifting music into a stupid chant not far different from another horrible musical trend of, you've got it, the 70's known as FOLK ROCK. And yes I pissed off the 70's purists...I cringe to think of having to listen to that shit again right along with Disco Duck and all of that played to death classic rock.
"Classic rock", disco, alternative, heavy metal, new wave...why do you think those were so popular and STILL celebrated? Because they were absolutely like nothing ever before. But listen to any format...you'll notice after ten different songs that they all sound alike. People got bored with them moved on...but today I'm having to listen to them all over again in a stupider, weaker form. Basically the kids got into these older groups and brought them into the stratosphere. In the 90's, my generation was raiding their parents record collection and playing Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix like they were brand new bands. Cmon everybody...please stop this shit! Like your old stuff, but let them stay in the past. Throw in some new instruments! Create a new tempo! Try a new style of playing old instruments! Sing a song YOUR way! Maybe even leave all the instruments we use today out of music entirely and bring back instruments of antiquity for a whole new sound!
Ever since new wave and heavy metal died, people have been STARVING for something that didn't sound like the past. Rap was a new play on an old sound with tough talking that made the teenagers open up their wallets, but now it's stupid and tired. Alternative degenerated into faux-emo and pop-punk to offset all the wannabe Nirvana bands that couldn't come up with an original sound for the life of them. F*ck the influences, come up with something wild, weird and unimaginable much like Gary Numan must have sounded when he brought us "Cars" in 1980...I am not betting on it with the state of ALL of the nations of the world, but even if its for a local audience and you never get to have a castle and a garage full of Porsches for doing it, you've got to start somewhere.
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well, MOST of it does suck (maybe 99.999%?)....
What I do not really like about today's music is, it is all either too fast (rap) or too slow (just about everything else). At work, I have to listen to Alicia Keys. She is supposed to be a great piano player (like me?) but, on the radio, I barely hear a note being pressed down because she is screaming her lungs off! No offense, but it seems like she can't SING to save her life. What is wrong with music these days?
Of course, I do admire some modern jazz musicians. One is Anthony Wonsey, a piano player. Another is Nicholas Payton, a good trumpeter.
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Gen Yer who's ashamed of today's music...
I hope the 2010s brings a backlash to this messed up pathetic musical state of affairs!
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Another thing you mentioned was that rap was "under-produced." Well you are partially correct on that one. You see, rap tracks in GENERAL, have a really under-produced feel to it on purpose. It's just the style. Just like most rock tracks are designed to be super extra loud, rap tracks are designed to be chill and easy on the ears. With that said, it's pretty easy to create a rap track by normal standards- Get a drum machine (TR-808) and a few synths and you're good. But beyond that, it becomes an art in itself- HOURS , DAYS, and even MONTHS of digging in the crates (looking for "samples," little excerpts of funk, reggae, and rare groove tracks, often from an extensive library of old LPs, which are stored in "crates," hence the phrase), and coming up with clever metaphors and rhyming.
However, I do agree that nearly every genre of music has gone to complete SHIT in the past decade or so. And although some of my peers (yes, I am 15) may agree with me, it seems as though a vast majority of teens are still tuning in to the radio and buying shit albums. Rock music has become now dull and it seems that most bands on the air are trying TOO hard to make complex messages that don't make sense in the first place. Hip-Hop has died and has been replaced by a hideous form of pop. Electronica has lost it's originality and flavor and is starting to become simpler as it slowly creeps into the mainstream. Independent and underground music just doesn't compare to the music of the past, either. This goes for all genres. From Electronica to Country.
Is it a byproduct of a more ignorant, apathetic society? Is it because "everything has been done?" Have we boxed ourselves in with copyright laws? Is it because of a huge corporate scheme to push onto store shelves albums of anything that sounds vaguely like music? Or does everyone out there just suck?
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The only real talent in music these days Is in indie bands.
Its sad....you got all these under rated band with no radio time or anything...whats even worst all the cookie cutter bands (all the bands that sound alike) are always on the radio....
It seems like every thing is going to shit(music,tv,movies,ect)
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holy motown
once you first hear santana pourin his soul out in a song from around 69 you can never listen to the shit they call music today again to bad carlos has sold out like all other bands these days
top reasons why modern muaic is jive
1 to damn angry
sure life sucks but damn man noone wants to hear som jackass screaming in non understandable tones with a drum beat like som pricks haveing a heart attack on the drums and who looks like he has a dick and a cunt
2 rap crap
who the funk had the bright idea to go gangster please tell me so i can chop his balls off cause we dont need more asshats like him rap and hip hop proves most kids today are to dumb to even wipe their own ass any one whos over 15 and cant see thru the liesc and still loves rap is right up there with bush damnitt
3 music dosnt even sound real
drum beats sound to light and fake nowdays the guitar riffs sound horrable like somones just tryin to make a quick buck to get fucked tonight
im only 18 but my god i can see music was better back in the 60s and 70s and shit today sucks ass on a scale i never thought id see and you know what its not just music theres a trend goin on with music hollywood and video games its just a game of make a quick buck nowdays and to hell with the quality of the product how else would you explain techno?
to quote the immortal words of bob seger todays music aint got the same soul i like that old time rock n roll
if you dont agree fine fuck you go back to your lies filled world where youll probally die alone after 40 years of workin 9 to 5 in a dead end job stuck behinde a damn desk alday at a dildo company workin for the man you pussy
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Then and now
One might ask: wasn't their crappy music back in the 60's-through-90's? Of course. However, there was also a lot of quality offerings on display. It used to be that you could walk into a record store and buy great albums filled with great songs from beginning to end. Whatever the time, whatever the style (barring disco...), there was quality on offer and plenty of it. Everyone from Steely Dan to David Bowie, King Crimson to Metallica, The Beatles to The Beach Boys/Brian Eno, Slayer to Stevie Wonder, and on and on ...everything was better (and new), done with much more passion for the craft and attention to detail -- even the packaging was way better. You could look forward to great new music every month.
Nowadays, you're lucky if you can find a few good songs in a year.
They sell 'trendy' singles on iTunes, i.e. whatever the record brass wants to force on the public, and album prices have skyrocketed in recent years which is ironic given the fact that the albums on offer, quite frankly, suck. As customers grew dissatisfied with the garbage on offer and sales plummeted, the record companies or, more specifically, the RIAA, their lobbying strongarms, decided to make the customers their scapegoat, because if people aren't willing to pay for their crap, they'll sue it out of 'em. It's a bullying business model built on a pile of shit and the stench is overwhelming.
People have drawn their focus away from great melodies, interesting harmonies and arrangements, and have instead become obsessed with trying to be 'studio perfect' like the current crop of over-processed filler (to note, it doesn't matter what is recorded nor how clean when the mastering engineers have turned the mix up to blare out past the -0dB threshold of digital audio, thereby destroying the clarity and contrast between the different instruments, as well as causing ear fatigue). You don't have to be a pro-grade audio engineer to write a great song, let alone record it. You just have to have some talent, inspiration and dedication to the craft. Those things will always be worth more than any studio equipment.
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My claim here is that any person of intelligence if tested on what music they found more appealing, any music before this decade and music from this decade, the answer should be clear as day. The music today sucks.
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Today's music sucks
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Today's music does suck
Today's crap music has no feel. Nothing inspires you to reach for the stars and be a better person, it just caters to dumb people and promotes ignorant follower consumerism.
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Today's music does suck
Today's crap music has no feel. Nothing inspires you to reach for the stars and be a better person, it just caters to dumb people and promotes ignorant follower consumerism.
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When music started to decline
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It's not that I'm stuck in the past...
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It's the stupid kids
Good music takes intelligence and hard work to create... both are rare in today's youth.
They are too lazy to go beyond pressing a button on a software program to launch a beat pattern. ooooh, that takes a lot of talent and you should be so proud of yourself! HA!!!
Ever tried playing an Oboe? Or a Violin? Sorry, you fail.
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sooo true
BRING BACK THAT OLD TIME ROCK AND ROLL
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green day 0 x 1 the clash
run dmc 1 x 0 today s fagsta rap
foo fighters 1 x 0 Coldplay faggots
Jimi Hendrix 1 X 0 Indie rock queers
Betty Page 1 x 0 skinny avril lavigne
....wantsomo?
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Not All Modern Music Sucks, but the Bad Does Outnumber the Good
However, there is a lot of shit. Lots of bands/singers just plain suck (Franz Ferdinand) or have talent but have lame, uninspired songs (Rihanna & Taylor Swift). It's a result of having stupid kids nurtured on stupid pop culture setting the bar on what "good" and "cool" is, and having the sheep conform to their stupid ideals.
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I respect the classic groups, but if I had to choose between 2000s music and music from all other decades it's no comparison-- 2000-onwards wins hands down. Modern musicians can draw upon everything we've heard before as well as their own creativity. It's ridiculous to think that music has had some sort of golden age other than the present.
On the other hand, the music industry has been going through business model growing pains throughout this decade, but the internet has thrown the door wide open for bands that wouldn't have otherwise seen the light of day. It's only going to get better from here on out, because so many of the old creative bottlenecks have been removed.
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I blame the internet!!!
P.S. I was just listening to some classic rock and they were playing a flute in a rock song. Now where do you hear that in music now days? WAKE UP MUSIC IS DEAD!!! THE ONLY FLUTE BEING PLAYED IN MUSIC NOW DAYS IS THE SKIN-FLUTE!!
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Record companies are also blaming low sales on P2P sites like Pirate Bay, Mininova, Bt Junkie, Iso Hunt, etc. Funny, because the music everyone is downlading is good music (90s and earlier OR the non-mainstream 2000s bands). Shit like Fall Out Boy, Panic At The Disco, Jonas Brothers, Lil Wayne, Britney Spears... It's so bad that no one even takes it for free when it's a click of the mouse away. The vast majority of music that people download is stuff that was around before Napster.
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Don't diss what YOU think is indie...
You are really moronic. No, really. Indie isn't a genre, it's short for independent. What does that mean? It means that these bands are signed to independent record labels i.e. not Sony BMG and the like, stuff which you haven't heard of. And THAT means that they release what THEY want to, not what generic society dictates. Indie music rocks, it's diverse and independent. So get your heads out of your asses before preaching your ignorance.
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Lol I love it - so true.
I'm not a parent yet, but fear the day my children come home and tell me one of these 'artists' is their role model.
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Let the young decide
Here I am, an English teacher in Greece. I have various classes of kids, 13 to 18+ years old.
I ask them, "Is music good today?" -- the answer, almost 90% of the time: IT SUCKS.
Kids aren't stupid. Music has lost its touch.
I turned over the problem in my head again and again. Do musicians today lack talent? Are they unskilled? No, there are many skillful musicians.
I think its about inspiration, spirit, passion. Musicians, artists today - they're just uncertain about WHAT to create, about HOW to sound.
ALL great music has direction, focus, and intensity. That's why music sucks today - it has none of these.
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That is True
Love Women,They dont Love Nobody,Romance Feeling,Passion,Get Horny,everthing was killed by a buncho of so Called"Artists"but they are just a"Pop Hookers"waiting for the easy money,during the apocalipse(2000 a.c),Record Companies discovered that instead of Good Music,Image Sells for stupids,so we have a army of Fakers,liars,Fashionists Schooeless person,airheads of pop and hip hop,dictate this shit,the pop is not democratic,is a dictatorship from Assholes to take control of young claque suckers,buying the midia press,radio,mtv with money,its a worst version of Citizen Kane,its worst than a Communist Regime,its a totalitarism of japanese executives,Stupid Rappers(eminen,dr dre,all this unhuman shit),crazy bitches(lady gaga,britney,madonna),pseudo-music producers(timbaland,mark ronson,all this unhuman shit),boy bands(green day,linkin park),i claim the world to curse this people for ever,and i hope people forget this bastards and send them to a limbo,i hope they lost all of the money that they won,so,remember you are controlled by a Zombies,dont be a zombie...
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I agree whole-heartedly
Newer generations seem more open to having a broad range in music tastes, instead of the old way of choosing a particular taste to stick with and also represent. They like, and want everything, even if they only like that certain style for one day. Hell, they could just delete it and pretend they never liked that record anyway.
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NIRVANA WAS THE BEGINING OF THE END
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WHAT'S NEXT?
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Yeah, kids. Ke$ha sucks. Get over it.
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yeah I'd totally cockslap paket!!! snobby little bitch
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most manstream shit has been tageted to teen girls
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Indeed. Modern music sucks.
I'm 21 years old and I mainly listen to late 70s, 80s and early 90s songs and classical music.
The loudness war is for sure a cause. There is no dynamic range in music, nowadays.
Search for that "Loudness war", you'll be shocked.
That's one cause why music has lost emotions.
Thank god, there is good cds from 80s. Don't buy remasters.
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God, if i tried to tell this to someone in my school they'd laugh themselves to death. but its true. no one has good ideas cause no one can think out of the box of love and relationships. I mean look at Pink Floyd. Listening to Roger and David sing is like listening to what I call Epic Poetry. Its strong, sometimes wierd, but always good.
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So, its big buisness, society, and unoriginality that make music suck today. PERIOD.
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ps:james taylor,don maclean,carole king is much better than that oasis/hip hop/high school musical shit..
old 80s funk is much rock and roll that green day crap..
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Anyone who has any knowledge of underground music knows that mainstream is simply the raped and tattered remains of actual music.
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"All we hear is radio gaga"-Roger Taylor/Freddie Mercury
"Revolution 9 is what music will eventually turn into"-John Lennon
"Dave Grohl is the last hope for music"-Jimmy Page
"We're still around to keep whatever is left of music alive"-Kieth Richards
"Being Zak is younger we seem to be looked as by more current"-Pete Townshend
These legends told us
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Not all music today sucks.
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Radio today is useless to explore music. We can thank F uck wad Clear Channel for that. I stopped listening to radio long ago thanks to them. 1200 stations and growing as you young folks through your youthful naivete keep on listening and helping them grow. You have nothing to compare it to because of your lack of years. Fortunately getting older has its benefits too. You can compare. Too much BS with Talk radio and DJ's that just love to blab on and on like we really care. I wish they would shut their collective cake-holes and do their effing job which is to spin some tunes. Less talk would mean more time to get to hear a greater variety of music and more new stuff too. Maybe we would then get to hear some of those fine bands from the "underground". People of my gen like Slash grew up listening to everything from Dylan to Carole King to Elvis to Joni Mitchell to Muddy Waters to Isaac Hayes to the Beatles to Neil Young to Led Zeppelin to the Rolling Stones to The Supremes to Little Richard. And tons more. Another difference also was that in the 70's, for example, the radio stations would occasionally throw in songs from the 50's or 40's even so we could pick up on some great stuff we never heard before. Like blues and soul and gospel. Good luck trying to hear that stuff today.
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I own an iPod and I like it because you can be free of the radio. You can be your own DJ. An example of technology put to good use. But I have priceless memories of going to the record store and hunting through stacks of records trying to find a Jimmy Reed album because I heard in an interview that he influenced The Rolling Stones. And guess what, I'd find it. You think you can find Jimmy Reed in the music store today? And what an adventure it was to listen to Jimmy Reed. And that would lead you to investigate who Jimmy Reed was influenced by. Then you'd go back to the record store and go hunting for Eddie Taylor. Not as easy to find. So you go to the used record store and sure enough, you'd find it. I think todays youth are too lazy to pull up their pants, let alone go looking through musical history.
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The Who
Marvin Gaye
The Four Tops
Johnny Rivers
Ray Charles
Jefferson Airplane
Booker T and The MGs
The Turtles
James Brown
Wilson Pickett
Aretha Franklin
Young Rascals
Temptations
Fifth Dimension
Hollies
Diana Ross and The Supremes
Procol Harum
Martha and The Vandella
Van Morrison
The Happenings
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Sam and Dave
Frankie Valli
Stevie Wonder
Tommy James and The Shondells
Young Rascals
Nancy Sinatra and Frank Sinatra
The Doors
Lulu
"I learned to hate music" - Joni Mitchell
"todays music scene is retarded" - my 25 year-old son
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No, not your upbringing. The upbringing of your musical taste. If you spent your childhood listening to Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy, and the Jonas Brothers(like what kids today are doing), it's only natural that you'll hate The Beatles or Led Zep. You're mind has been trained to like today's music. Or if you listen mostly to classic rock, you wouldn't understand today's music.
Both styles have their own redeeming qualities. Classic Rock, in my opinion, is more heartfelt, more complex, while today's music is catchy, simple, and has a danceable beat, which are all qualities that the general youth look for in a song.
Even though I'm a guy who thinks today's popular music sucks too, it's going to be hard to convince other people to listen to music from bands they never heard of because:
A: They want to conform to what's popular so they can look hip.
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B: Because they listen to other music, their tastes differ significantly from the oldies, therefore, they probably wouldn't like it.
PS: For everyone who keeps posting that we should LOOK for good modern music: What's easier, spending hours on end scouring the dark corners of the Net to find just one good indie band, or just listening to stuff you can get at any decent classic rock store?
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RECORD COMPANIES+MONEY=BRIBE
BRIBE BUYS=MTV+RADIOS+SITES+
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ITS PAYOLA
is payola."dishgracheros corrupchos,pashgnhadinheirush"
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Music today totally sucks
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The title of this thread says it all
Now normally you think that they would prefer the music from their own generation. However, I have overwhelmingly found that these kids listen to the same bands as I did a decade earlier. They wear pearl jam shirts, talk about sound garden, old weezer, and all that stuff.
So i think they realize that the music today is far, far worse than any of the corporate cookie cutter trash we complained about during our hayday. I have no idea how this nickelback type junk is popular because almost every kid I met wishes they were around for 1995.
Peace and love.
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today's music leaves hickeys....my positive spin
The music industry is in worse shape now as I write this than when this thread was started! Anybody can create a song and distribute it. That means a lot more music made with less effort and reward. So those who have put the time in think "what's the point" if they can't make a living from it. How much is a label going to invest in a product that is easily "shared"?
Still, I have have trouble writing of music as a whole because those who really love music will make albums they want to be proud of & I'm really enjoying "Cosmogramma"!
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@ Adam
When you look at music before 1990 you could recognize many of the songs by their diverse melodies and many of the singers played guitar or had a close relationship to their band, now it seems like 90% of our school's population just wants to sing and is quite frankly lacking in all musical ability other than singing. The way things are now, you couldnt identify anyone in a band other than the singer, look at music groups such as lady gaga, hannah montana, taylor swift. I bet most of you couldn't indentify anyone in these "bands" other than the singers.
I suppose we can't have everything, we have so many gadgets and cool online video games these days that we should focus on what is good, but if you know that the quality of music has died as I do then boycot the industry, do not buy anymore music until they clean up their act, I know I won't be buying any until then.
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Sucky Crap Music
I think music back then up into the 90s a bit, even, had the art of orchestra. The orchestras that the beatles had sounded kick a. Now orchestras in the background sounds like a keyboard.
There are no more fun songs either. Just fun laid back songs you can skat to.
Music was waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy diverse, I mean you don't really have the crooning big band style of The Rat Pack today like you did then. Country really sounds a lot like hannah montanna's songs today. And rock music has kinda turned into less rebel, more poser.
Anyway. The best stuff todya is still kinda bad, Train's soul sister kinda does not make sense.
But I don't know, thinking about the future, I'll be 75 years old in 2064 the beatles will be 100 and I doubt that a whole bunch of anything older, Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, old stuff likePerry Como and Roy Rogers will be readily available at walmart. I guess, then, Ill just have to get by with and be old with just ok music and not awesome music.
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Katy Perry for example, do you think she'd be famous if she had her voice, minus the huge rack?
Or Disney stars, who have to be attractive enough to be on TV to have a record deal.
WHen's the last time you've heard a good ole rippin guitar solo on whatever radio station that claims to rock?
All the music today is just bells and whistles, all sounds the same, made on a computer, and inspired by money.
The only modern mainstream musician I think is still getting it done is Jack White, but that's just my own opinion.
I hope this modern manufactured, shitty, autotuned, non-creative crap music dies out like disco or something.
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Music Sucks!!
*Hello my friend we meet again
It's been awhile where should we begin...feels like forever
Within my heart are memories
Of perfect love that you gave to me
I remember
When you are with me
I'm free...I'm Careless...I believe
Above all the others we'll fly
This brings tears to my eyes
My sacrifice
We've seen our share of ups and downs Oh how quickly life can turn around in an instant
It feels so good to reunite
Within yourself and within your mind
Let's find peace there
When you are with me
I'm free...I'm careless...I believe
Above all the others we'll fly
This brings tears to my eyes
My sacrifice
I just want to say hello again....
i just want to say hello again....
When you are with me
I'm free...I'm careless...I believe
Above all the others we'll fly
This brings tears to my eyes
Cause when u are with me
I'm free..i'm careless i believe
Above all the others will fly
This brings tears to my eyes
My sacrifice
My sacrifice
I just want to say hello again
I just want to say hello again
My sacrifice*
Personally this is a great example of how lyrics are generic and made for dumb Americans. OK, so here's some Nirvana lyrics.
*What else should I be
All apologies
What else should I say
Everyone is gay
What else could I write
I don't have the right
What else should I be
All apologies
In the sun
In the sun I feel as one
In the sun
In the sun
I'm married
buried
I wish I was like you
Easily amused
Find my nest of salt
Everything is my fault
I'll take all the blame
Aqua seafoam shame
Sunburn with freezerburn
Choking on the ashes of her enemy
All in all is all we are (x14)*
This is all apologies, one of the most beautifully crafted songs in the world. The two songs are polar opposites lyrically. I'm not sure why people like modern rock, it really sickens me.
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Music Sucks!! (cont.)
I�m through with standing in line
to clubs we�ll never get in
It�s like the bottom of the ninth
and I�m never gonna win
This life hasn�t turned out
quite the way I want it to be
I want a brand new house
on an episode of Cribs
And a bathroom I can play baseball in
And a king size tub big enough
for ten plus me
I�ll need a credit card that�s got no limit
And a big black jet with a bedroom in it
Gonna join the mile high club
At thirty-seven thousand feet
I want a new tour bus full of old guitars
My own star on Hollywood Boulevard
Somewhere between Cher and
James Dean is fine for me
I�m gonna trade this life for fortune and fame
I�d even cut my hair and change my name
�Cause we all just wanna be big rockstars
And live in hilltop houses driving fifteen cars
The girls come easy and the drugs come cheap
We�ll all stay skinny �cause we just won�t eat
And we�ll hang out in the coolest bars
In the VIP with the movie stars
Every good gold digger�s
Gonna wind up there
Every Playboy bunny
With her bleach blond hair
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
I wanna be great like Elvis without the tassels
Hire eight body guards that love to beat up assholes
Sign a couple autographs
So I can eat my meals for free
I think I�m gonna dress my ass
with the latest fashion
Get a front door key to the Playboy mansion
Gonna date a centerfold that loves to
blow my money for me
I�m gonna trade this life
For fortune and fame
I�d even cut my hair
And change my name
�Cause we all just
wanna be big rockstars
And live in hilltop houses
driving fifteen cars
The girls come easy and
the drugs come cheap
We�ll all stay skinny
�cause we just won�t eat
And we�ll hang out in the coolest bars
In the VIP with the movie stars
Every good gold digger�s
gonna wind up there
Every Playboy bunny
with her bleach blond hair
And we�ll hide out in the private rooms
With the latest dictionary and
today�s who�s who
They�ll get you anything
with that evil smile
Everybody�s got a
drug dealer on speed dial
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
I�m gonna sing those songs
that offend the censors
Gonna pop my pills
from a pez dispenser
When they ask why I drink all day
I�ll say because I can
I�ll get washed-up singers writing all my songs
Lip sync em every night so I don�t get �em wrong
Then listen to the fans tell me how damn good I am
I�m gonna trade this life for fortune and fame
I�d even cut my hair and change my name
Cause we all just wanna be big rockstars
And live in hillltop houses driving fifteen cars
The girls come easy and the drugs come cheap
We�ll all stay skinny �cause we just won�t eat
And we�ll hang out in the coolest bars
In the VIP with the movie stars
Every good gold digger�s gonna wind up there
Every playboy bunny with her bleach blond hair
And we�ll hide out in the private rooms
With the latest dictionary and today�s who�s who
They�ll get you anything with that evil smile
Everybody�s got a drug dealer on speed dial
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
THESE LYRICS SUCK. IT'S ALL CORRUPTION!!!! ITS ALL POST GRUNGE WANABE BULLSHIT.
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today's mainstream music is horrible
All main stream music today, be it country, rock, hip hop, rap, punk or mental sounds like which ever band is number one in the charts. If you take away the vocals of todays music, you could not tell the bands or artists apart. Pop country has its one sound as does all the other genres of main stream music.
Thank the powers that be that bands like AC/DC, The Rolling Stones, Aerosmith and Rush still exist. The only 70's bands that perform and sell out areana's on a regular basis still. Anything else that is mainstream is just soulless crap. Mark Schurr
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I like Elvis To Extreme and everything inbetween! That's my quote and I am sticking with that. Lets get back to great musicianship because we've all had enough!
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you dont write songs with a pen
the field becomes a lot less full
you get rid of all these "singers" who think they gotta song everytime they spew out some stupidity on paper that they can convice couple of people to play background crap to
music without instruments playing in the foreground sucks and its easy, thats why you gotta million singers with pointless bands
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you dont write songs with a pen
listen to riffs n solos by bands like soundgarden, nirvana was that they were using dissonance
and if you dont know what dissonance is then you dont deserve good music
only 12 year old girls like consonance
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Modern Mainstream Sucks Ass
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For Onetruefan
hipster scumbag,douchebag,sucker
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TOdays music sucks but....
more than todays music,and btw,india people sucks...
they torture and dont have respect to each other
problably the most odd people in the world....
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Making justiçe
i will make justice for ya
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Music Trends
Anyway, my point is that music today is different, but if you live in southern NJ or The Philadelphia area, try listening to 104.5. They constantly play mixes of 90's and 00's rock. When 102.9 is on commercial break I take a step away from my classic rock, and go to some more modern rock, new wave, modern punk, and alternative music. I do like some of the music I hear on that station, but I can't stand it when people, including my friends, listen to modern rap "stars" like Drake, Jay-Z, and all the other modern "pop" music of today.
I am in a band, and play lead guitar, and also play bass guitar, though we have a bassist of coarse. I jammed on war pigs (solo) by black sabbath with them for literally over an hour. I can't say that is possible with todays music.
Music isn't declining, pop music is. I truely hope that in my later life, my kids, wife, and self never have to go anywhere and have our ears assaulted by modern rap, and those rock stations better stay around.
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Mainstream is a plague......
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and your Dog naturally won
then you flew your Lear jet up to Ashkashaska
to see the total eclipse of the earth"
"you are so drain,you problably think this song is about you"youre solbrain...i bet thissongis...
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today's rock SUCKS
1) I suck because I want some girl and can't get her;
2) I suck because I don't know who I am and I'm too scared to find out;
3) F*** the world, I want to die and take you along with me, because now I don't care anymore; and
4) Give me some porn, and perhaps something or someone to insult, degrade or destroy, to take my mind off things for a while before I get bored and start complaining and whining into this microphone again.
In short, the frustration and lack of direction, prevalent in kids of today's empty consumerist society, has become painfully evident, as well as prevalent, in the waning art form known as contemporary rock.
Predictably, the music is very "me" centric. All you hear is "I, I, I." Rarely the pejorative "you," unless, of course, it is to bitch about having lost you or being unable to get you in the first place. Whereas classic rock of the seventies and eighties, when it was not positive and triumphant and celebratory, was much more philosophical, looking out at the problems of the world and of the human condition in general, and trying to find a purpose or a moral in difficulty and suffering.
Musically speaking, too, yesterday's music was much better, with more interesting melodies, a wider variety of tonal inflections, greater layering, a richer dynamic and demonstration of skill in terms of instruments, key changes, and creative transformations. Gone are the guitar riffs of the Eddie van Halens, the unique vocals of Steve Perry, and the drums of Stewart Copeland. Most of the music today is uninspired and insipid from a musical perspective: flat, predictable, and repetitive. The voices are all the same: High and whining or "make tough" and gritty, and always angry. You can barely tell any of them apart.
This makes perfect sense, too, because our kids are not being raised to be adults in this culture, any more than they are being raised to be creative and confident. Just look at the "leadership" of our country: If you're not stealing from someone else and getting away with it, and then looking to someone else to bail you out, forgive you for your crimes and make excuses for you, then you're bombing someone much weaker in a far-off country and calling it security and patriotism.
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Don't listen to 90 percent of the posters here
Amazon.com - Find something you like and look at the similiar items. Just from liking the Cure I was turned onto Interpol (Turn on the Bright Lights) then onto Modest Mouse (Moon & Antarctica, Lonesome Crowded West,Etc) and so on.
Metacritic.com - While not perfect it covers a lot of todays new music
Cokemachineglow.com - a good review site. Go through their archives but first check out their year end list to see what you missed last year.
Bolachas.org - What they lack in detail they make up for in abundance. A lot of stuff here! Doesn't always have a description so sometimes you gotta do a little of your own research.
Pitchfork.com - not as good as CMG but still a lot of great stuff you can find by going through their archived reviews
I love music from all decades and love them all dearly. While I can't say that that any of the bands that I know of have toppled the great monument of dark side of the moon (musically at least) .. I can say that for me at least quite a few are in the realm and may one day make something that good.
Heres a few of my favorite bands - Check em out :) - Akron/Family, Animal Collective, Battles, The Chameleons (uk) , Destroyer, The Flaming Lips, Grizzly Bear, Kaleidoscope (uk), Sufjan Stevens, Wilco and a shitload of others culled mostly from perusing the above mentioned avenues.
Most of the posters here (including the author) are dead wrong about music today. They are just speaking about mainstream bullshit (and it is pretty much ALL shit) Since that doesn't encompass todays music as a whole (not even close) all of their opinions are null and void. True Poetry and meaning in music is not dead at all, Great, unique song structures still thrive, interesting instrumentation ... you name it.It's all out there and now that I've given you some hints... it won't be so 'hard to find'. So kindly shut the fuck up now with this 'modern music sucks' nonsense. Thank you and good luck.
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What I said -
"Most of the posters here (including the author) are dead wrong about music today."
What I should've said
"Most of the posters here are dead wrong about music today."
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For Matt The Indie....
you are talking about Indie Music.So..
Thanks for the cooperation,but,the MAIN Problem Here
is THERE IS NOT GOOD MAINSTREAM MUSIC ANYMORE..
so Mgmt For Example Hit the goal to Mainstream but,egocentrical-esque brought them to underground again.
If you want Help New Bands to Show themselves for the world,work hard on it,and Help us.
So,good luck,and dont be a hipstor...
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Today's music sucks
There are no love songs today! Are people so insensitive today that there are no love songs?
Those brain dead musicians of today could have at least imitated and made a Kenny-Rogers-type of song today that would make you fall in love. But no.
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It's sad to see so many people (friends included) fall for such B.S. and crap while I"m in the corner listening to my Jimmi Hendrix. You know it sucks and as long as these songs don't become "Classics" I'm fine. But it still amazes me how many people fall for such nonsense. AND THEY PAY FOR IT TOO!!! LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY!!! -_- gosh!
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1. helps them fulfill a persona that makes them either fit in, or the complete opposite, rebel. (the definition of poser)
2. Or they are just so ignorant of music, that they think the hardest band out there is Slipknot or something.
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What ever happened to melodic pop? Y'know, like Abba, the Monkees, Petula Clark, etc.
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New band that DOES NOT suck! Finally!
They are an up and coming east coast band - lots of style, great musicians, a somewhat different style incorporated into each song... Just good stuff you won't get tired of!
www.semitonemusic.com
www.semitoneband.com
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Ignorance = Fairplay
I'm also tired of people who have no experience in the music industry, be it "indie-independent" or "mainstream" to argue vehemently as to which is better than the other.
Music is a lot like fashion, honestly, always really was...the 60s and 70s were able to allow a few very large acts through that people crown as the kings - Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Jimmi Hendrix, Blue Cheers, Mc5, The Stooges, the Velvet Underground, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, etc so forth. However, a lot of that was due to the whole social movement linked to the music. Don't also forget that technology was a lot different then as well which allowed social structures to be so rigid - the nuclear family era and its failures before the "free love" movement and the post-WWII kids in Europe uprising that also deeply influenced American artists. Drugs were becoming much more popular in the mainstream, specifically psychotropics and hallucinogenics. of course, pre-dating those kings were acts like Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams Jr. - Kris Kristof. etc. Acts who were deeply influenced by those who pre-dated them and created their own niche...right?
Bleh. I love all the artists I've thus mentioned and yet its so funny how many of them were outright thieves, Elvis popularized music by robbing the African-American communities gospel hymns and blues. He later would mostly sing songs written FOR him, not BY him. Johnny Cash just pretty much pretended to play guitar half the time and was mostly an attitude rather than a talent. Led Zeppelin, now there's my favorite laugh - I love this band with all of my heart and its so funny how much Jimmy Page, a studio musician with a knowledge of music theory, literally stole blues riffs directly and just distorted them with a lot of gain, not to mention he was a sloppy guitarist and still is. Stairway to Heaven bears a heavy resemblance to Taurus by Spirit, Dazed and Confused was written in 1967 by Jake Holmes and went uncredited by the act he opened for with a certain Jimmy Page. Most of the "big" hits are thieved.
You see, at the time you people are bitching and moaning about there was still something new under the sun, now there is less and less. It's a simple economic principle that affects everything in a market - its called scarcity.
Now as scarcity becomes more and more enacted, musically speaking, things are becoming more and more stale. I mean fuck me, its impressive that you could steal from such talented people at the time...these days, you do in fact (as some before have mentioned) have this messianic effect were one band becomes the template for millions of spinoffs.
A lot of this is due in part to today's technology, the advent of the internet allows things like YouTube, epitonic, last.fm to oversaturate the market and allow a lot of shite bands to practice a few times, right a few clones from the proto-band (nirvana, at the drive-in, radiohead, etc) and record it quickly as possible to find a new fanbase.
MySpace, before it became a pedophile playground, really did a number on the popularization of boy bands in skinny fit jeans with tattoos (hipsters) screaming behind autotuned vocals with a few "heavy" riffs.
Independent music is just as cheesy and stale, don't listen to Matt -> if pitchfork says its good, its because you HAVENT heard it yet, its obscure (which means its typically jargon with an 8bit casio bit overlaid behind some faux heroin-addicts bleating, feminin vocals.
Just be fair, music hasn't evolved.
It's always been an industry, and for the most part (at the risk of sounding elitist or snobby) most music generally fucking sucks...the beauty being there is so much of it that one man stands to hold an iPod with several thousands that make life worthwhile.
There are still bands today that are rather impressive who, like their predecessors, "steal" (typically in the beginning stages only) a few riffs here and there before writing their own material after years of touring and learning their own unique breadth.
A label, a studio - be them indie or major, exist for one sole purpose - to protect their investment or interest(s).
This means promoting a band, selling a band as deemed fit, typically deciding upon the single, or even becoming hands on in the production process.
There is a strong corellation between a bands stylistic sound and their producer (look at how much coheed and cambria has "progressed" at the hands of some AWFUL producers - progressed for the worst if you ask me, Mastodon too)...but you know what?
Want to know the truth guys?
As long as there are a few kids out there plucking away at a guitar, ripping off their influences before they learn their own voice, shit, punk aint dead - music aint dead.
Look at Elliott Smith...deeply influenced by men like Nick Drake, who was in turn deeply influenced by many contemporary folk musicians of his time and jazz players, and learned to develop a very unique playing style. One that embodied heart, developed odd chord structures or emphasized alternate tunings (a lot of this due to his former instrument - both men).
A lot of music, "indie" or mainstream, today does seemingly lack heart...but just as much maintains it, you just haven't gotten off your lazy ass to discover it because you're too busy bitching about nothing.
Existentialists like myself may seem like snobby assholes but at least we get out of life what we make of it. Same applies to you...
stop being so fucking melodramatic and just wait for a good band to come along.
There is A LOT of shit today, I agree. I think there was probably an equal amount of shit then, in relation to less numbers (population increase, technology - instruments - becoming cheaper, etc) but come on...there will always be a few good guys along the way.
That's how I want to end this long-winded rambling, as if anyone will ever read it...
for every explosions in the sky who makes the same record every 4 years, you had planes mistaken for stars or the party of helicopters.
For every Linkin Park, you had coalesce, or botch.
The good bands keep dying because no one will get behind them. The ones WITH heart, or by the time someone felt the need to clap, its posthumous.
Stop it.
Besides, good bands are like girlfriends - you don't really get a good one by meet her by chasing after it desperately, you just sort of stumble onto it.
For as much as these media devices suck cock and saturate - YouTube/Epi/last...they do an amazing job of introducing new people to great bands too.
There is a good and bad to all things, its called equilibrium and its enacted in any ecosystem (virtual or physical).
I've said my piece,
night.
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I apologize for some typos and the cramming of certain bands into inappropriate time groups.
It's 2:07am here in Central Texas and hopefully this won't completely kill my argument, I'm not 15 ha, I'm 10 years more than that so I should know better than to release something this long as a comment on such an old post or to come off like a prepubescent, pseudo-intellectual.
Anyways.
Rush writes some awful lyrics, but not nearly as bad as The Mars Volta. Cedric is a high school dropout with a thesaurus next to his bed, ha.
Done.
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"Modern Music" *gag*
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scotia,sco co cotia,novascotia schcotia
co co cotia...
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Re: Even The Kids Today Think Modern Music Sucks
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it was a milli vanilla teenage grunge turtles,shaking their booties at techotronic s songs,that years sucks so much.2000s sucks but the 90s effect is fading out..no more"chevy nova"motherfuckers(sorry by lots of "city speak")
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the apes are taking control if the usa..
next future,the statue of the liberty will fall down...
survivalists and decent white people,watch and punish our enemies...
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Re: I want to be the massiah of music
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have a nice weekend god bless america...
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hmm, well i feel better now that i got that off of my chest lol.
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Alt-Rock killed Rock...
Nu-Metal ruined Metal...
Slut-Pop ruined everything...
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SLUT POP SUCKS
SLUT POP SUCKS
SLUT POP SUCKS
SLUT POP SUCKS
SLUT POP DEMOLITION NIGHT!
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SLUT POP SUCKS
SLUT POP SUCKS
SLUT POP SUCKS
PUKE POP SUCKS
PUKE POP SUCKS
PUKE POP SUCKS
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your fucking bitch,makes me laugh that the guy
who felt love with you,change you for a better girl
you are here in finland hidding you ass
but,when you got sick its a victoriy to me
when you go to the hopital and suffer!!!
grettings
james taylor
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he change you for another girl
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its so true.
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I DONT WANT MAKE A CUP OF TEA OF OLDLADY JESSSSSEEEEE
JAZZZZZZEEEEEEE!!
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NIGGER BITCHES INCLUDING NIGGER MEN AND WOMEN SINGING ABOUT MONEY,THATS WHATS HAPPEN WHEN YOU FEED MOTHERFUCKER NIGGERS WITH MONEY.THIS MOTHERFUCKER NIGGERS WITH NO RESPECT FOR MOTHERS ARE:BRUNO MARS,JAY Z,JESSIE JANE,KANYE WEST,KATY PERRY,RIHA HA HANNA,50 CENT,KESHA,AKON,BICTHNEY SPEARS,BEYONCÉ,NICK MINAJ,FLO RIDA,PITBULL,FAR EASY MOVMENT,BLACK EYED PEES,LADY GAGA JUDAS,AND ALL TODAY S HIP HOP NIGGERS/MOTHERFUCKERS/SONS OF A BITCHES.NEVER FEED THIS APES AGAIN!!
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i remember spent my time listen your shit by the phone...
now you are in oitokattu hiddin your ass,i hope you never came back to brazil,because you are a souless slut,i feel sometimes go illegal to finland and shoot your head with a pistol,thats why you deserve you bitch,because you treat me like a dumb,and when you get old or get a desease,i will be happy when you start suffer,when zander kick your butt out,i laugh a lot,and he changes you,for a better girfriend,and you a old and lonely old brazilian slut,die motherfucker,die!!!
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Mainstream/Modern
-from a 15 year old who actually appreciates decent music
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You did your creepy and cruel
sociopathic nerd sexual fantasy rape shit called
Sucker punch.
I will Find you and i gonna kill you
you are a sick psyco and you must die
you rapist prick
kill all rapists and male nurses in mental institutions
this is a message from a international army
join us to make justice round the world
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civilian s vigilante squad
to Protect People againist human s rights violations
around the world,we must to form armed groups to scan and
capture rapists,torturers,sadistic criminals,kill them all
and dont send them to jail,or police stations.
the protection of our sons and daughters depends of this.and begins at home and your neigborhood.
second we must to form teams with shooters,able to make urban or jungle warfare to invade bunkers,houses,and mental instititons and prisons,to find and kill sex offenders.Not just squads but make battalions to direct fight againist enemys of human rights.Lets fight togheter.join in our army
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why modern music sucks
[Chorus]
3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low 6x
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
Shortie crunk so fresh so clean can she fuck that
Question been harassing me in the mind this bitch is fine
I done came to the club about 50th 11 times now can I play with yo
Paine line club owner said I need to calm down security guard go to sweating
Me now nigga drunk then a motherfucker threaten me now
She getting crunk in the club I mine she work
Then I like to see the female twerking taking the clothes off BUCKEY naked
ATL. Hoe don’t disrespect it
Pa pop yo pussy like this cause yin yang twins in this bitch
Lil Jon and the East side boys wit me and we all like to see Ass and tities
Now bring yo ass over here hoe and let me see you get low if you want this Thug
Now take it to the floor (to the floor) and if yo ass wanta act you can keep yo ass where you at
3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low [6x]
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you
Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass ya shake it fast ya
Pop dat ass to the left and the right ya
Drop dat ass ya shake it fast ya
Pop dat ass to the left and the right ya
Now back,back,back it up
a back,back,back it up
a back,back,back it up
a back,back,back it up
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit ya
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit ya
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit ya
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit ya
3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low [6x]
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
Now give me my doe back and go get ya friend
Stupid bitch standing there while I’m drinking my hen
Steady looking at me Still asking questions
Times up nigga pass me another contestant
Hoe move to the left if you ain’t bout 50th
Done talk through 3 or 4 songs already
looking at a nigga with yo palm all out bitch I ain’t even seen you dance
Twerk something baby work something baby
Pop yo pussy on the pole do yo thang baby
Slide down dat bitch
wit yo little bit then stop
Get back on the floor catch yo balance then drop
Now bring it back up clap yo ass like hands
I just wanna see yo ass drity dance yin yang we done again
And put it on the map like annnnn
3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low [6x]
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
Got dam (Got dam) ya ya’ll twreking alittle bit ladies
But ya got to twrek alittle bit harder then dat
now right now I need all the ladies dat know they look good tonite
(where my sexy ladies) we want ya’ll to do this shit like this
Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low [6x]
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
-----------Versus Led Zeppelin (I think this is just great poetry)-----------
"Kashmir"
Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed
Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace, whose sounds caress my ear
But not a word I heard could I relate, the story was quite clear
Oh, oh.
Oh, I been flying... mama, there ain't no denyin'
I've been flying, ain't no denyin', no denyin'
All I see turns to brown, as the sun burns the ground
And my eyes fill with sand, as I scan this wasted land
Trying to find, trying to find where I've been.
Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no trace, like thoughts inside a dream
Heed the path that led me to that place, yellow desert stream
My Shangri-La beneath the summer moon, I will return again
Sure as the dust that floats high in June, when movin' through Kashmir.
Oh, father of the four winds, fill my sails, across the sea of years
With no provision but an open face, along the straits of fear
Ohh.
When I'm on, when I'm on my way, yeah
When I see, when I see the way, you stay-yeah
Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, when I'm down...
Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, well I'm down, so down
Ooh, my baby, oooh, my baby, let me take you there
Let me take you there. Let me take you there
--------That alone should be an indicator of why modern music sucks----
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tons of bands put out tons of releases EVERY DAY. music has been turned into just another pill to be swallowed and get instant gratification from. part of the fun back in the day was the hunt! if you actually spend time looking you might find something decent... try going to a local show. you might just find your favorite new band lives a block away!!!
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Agreed...mostly
First off, whenever we have the radio on in the car, or my sisters are watching the Disney Channel(Don't get me started on how terrible that crap is) I hear not much difference between the songs, but a ridiculously large difference from earlier music. They almost completely kill of guitar, load up the synths with very high, long and unnecessarily long notes, and replace acoustic drums with hip-hop drums. They then make up all the lines of the song, making sure that almost every line rhymes with the previous one, and finally, bash it all together with a very unhealthy overuse of sound effects and autotune. They set it to an equally overkilled music video, call it music, ship it to be bought and broadcasted, and it gets overrated. Rinse, wash, repeat.
Technology is starting to really take over people's lives. I wish I grew up a while back than this terrible age so I could have listened to real music on the radio, that real artists actually put time, dedication and care into creating, earning their fans the right way.
*Sighs* What has our planet come to?
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I like A few modern music
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Most music today...SUCKS!
Some good newer bands in my opinion: The Mars Volta, Them Crooked Vultures, Wolfmother, Rise Against, Archic Monkeys, Mastodon, Disturbed, System of a Down, Arcade Fire, The Strokes, The White Stripes, just to name a few.
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Rap is degrading to women, racist to whites and it's a disgrace to music. There are no instruments in pop, rap etc. It's just all electronic crap. Plus, the lyrics of the "songs" have no meaning whatsoever. The only purpose of this crap is to get you to dance, I don't want to dance.
So yeah. Most music these days is just shallow crap. My generation can have their Justin Bieber and all that garbage. I am sticking to my rock, alternative, grunge, old punk and metal. No one can tell me otherwise. I am glad I am one of those kids today who listens to music because I like it, not because it's popular.
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kesha you are a popslut
nick menage to dogs you are a popslut
bruno mars you are a popslut
jessie j you are a real slut
rihanna you are a crazy slut
tayo cruz you are a latino slut
pitbull you are a cuban slut
shakira you are a real slut as jessie j
the R.I.A.A. is the main slut...
TODAYS POP SUCKS!!SAY IT LOUD!!
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you not a geek,you are a the shrek s mule...talking,talking and talking edited bullshit mash ups...
you are the new lonely girl15,the new luncyla..
go home you bastard!!
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Music is incredibly personal, it's like a direct channel to the soul. The worst thing about the oligopoly of mass-produced generic crap these days is that it hogs the limelight and makes it look like that's all there is. So the lazy/inexperienced shopper can't see the huge mass of music available.. but to the rest of us, thank god for the internet :).
I've got this little ongoing mission to fill my laptop with only, I said only, songs that speak to my bones. The collection that has developed since I began a couple of years ago covers the globe (Spanish rock, French folk, Mali blues, Lusophonic beats, Finnish electronica, Italian reggae, South African township pop...)and is spread over time (from Chopin to Ernest Ranglin and Muddy Waters, through Chicken Shack and Steppenwolf, Bob Marley, Nirvana, the Distillers, Tracy Chapman and into Citizen Cope, Dido and Joonas Hahmo). Thousands of artists - totally different and equally awesome. However the one place my music doesn't touch is the 2000's top 40-chart...
I've just been stuck in the flat all day with a building crew (kitchen getting fitted) and they were blazing the top-40 radio station for hours... and it hit me. This music is so lazy! Everything was electronic except for the seconds where you could maybe make out the original sound of some silly twats voice... and it wasn't anything special or interesting or even pleasant. Like you know how good actors are charismatic - there's an equivalent for good voices. And the noise! Just a mess of electronic splats with some pathetic 2-bar melody repeating endlessly in the middle of it. The singer's only purpose is to give the tune a marketing tag. This fart is garnished with 'Lady Gaga'.
There are like 4 messages which somebody has decided will reach everybody and therefore is guaranteed a safe sell; 'I love you/want you', 'I don't love you/want you anymore', 'I'm hot/rich' and 'I am going to party hard'. And it doesn't get any deeper into those themes than repeating some version of those lines ooooover and oooover again. Mainstream lyrics today are like a postcard version of a book. Just naked exploitation. It's masturbation.
Anyway, yah. Look out for the good stuff. It's there, it just takes time and experimentation to find, and I gotta say it - the whole world, every country and city, is creating good music all the time. Even the poorest people in the poorest townships in Africa are getting their hands on the means to record music, and they'll surprise you with their innovation and freshness. You just have to find it.
Okay, I'll stop the rant here :). Love n peace B-)
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the sounds and songs differed from one another,even though there was no synthesizer ..piano,horns,percussion,etc.but songs had melody and didn't the first sonfg didn't sound like the second,the second like the third and so on.
2.the 50's-the same as above,xcept the artists and sound was different with elvis,the rays,little richard,richie valens,etc..(buddy holly btw)okay call it teeny bopper if you want-the songs were honestly felt,melodic,even the rock hits had actual tunes back then.the writers and singers were serious ,not just quick buck sucking./
3. came the 60's,the beach boys,beatles,the(rolling)stones,eric burdon and the animals,sonny and cher(don't laff),herman's hermits,the list goes on///okay//not hard rock//but van morrison and them dida head blowing song called "gloria"..and ray davies and the kinks-all day and all the night.what did that imply? wink wink nod nod- all songs were different.had a melody.even the liies of the animals and them and the stones who were even back then doing hard rock material were writing songs that didn't clone one another and there was real honeststuff there,not "grab the money and vacation for a year" stuff./
even the light romantic pop stuff like hey paul by paul and paula had strength to it.
4.70's had eric clapton,cream,santana,the doors,deep purple,king crimson,vanilla fudge,free,the list goes on..tons of artists.melodic.alice cooper.the LP billion dollar babies.excellent/even the had rock had a tune.a melody.some real thought behind the writing.the talent itself matching artists of the 40's 50's 60's but just different sounds.all decades above were alive with music.
even 70's disco was vibrant and had a polished HQ sound and luster to it.
5.the 80's was much as the previous decades.from video killed tthe radio star by the buggles to the bangles eternal flame to walk like an egyptian
from heart's alone to the human leagues "human" and "obsession" the 80's had artist's usingthe magic of synthesizers an did it all with passion.the nntion of "let's make noise grunt and repeat stupid crap over and over again and sing stuff we can lip synch on stage if we need to" cam about later in the mid 90's with a style of ..something..called rap..then hip hop was added to only worsen the situation.the 80's saw some rap pass by(tone loc's wild thing and funky cold medina) but thoise were actually good songs.there was some thought..some real talent behind those songs.i have no idea what the other tracks on that record sound like but those 2 made the air waves because they were good./those 2 examples however are two out of how many??imo..two things destroyed ..wait..3 things aided in destroying rock and pop/ one is rap music.nuff said..hip hop music..ditto..the recording industry's greed --artists's used to get personal with their lable and the industry and they worked together to create a product that was good and was created with real thought and pen strokes.long story short ..it's not that way at all anymore./i've been collecting records since i was 5 years old.i'n 57 years old now and my apartment looks like a small studio./i saw and heard some real potential in evanescence and flyleaf when they were new bands and the popular bands to listen to.what..early..mid 2000's??they had great debut cd's.i think i have evanesvence 2nd cd as well.something happened real fast with boith bands i didn't like,their stuff fastly became repetitious.sound familiar?seems to be what's in..repetition..over and over again.very little effort with big pay./i still listen to bing andrews sisters(40's),clapton,deep purple,king crimson(70's)the human league,the bangles,psychedelic furs(80's)elton john,deep purple,herman's hermits,early stones(60's and 70"s).i still listen to early evanescence,flyleaf,dido and nina gordon and i tolerate watching tv when lady gaga and fergie are guesting..i recently saw someone called robyn on SNLand then found out it was an old episode and that robyn isn't as popular now and might not even be around anymore..i dunno/i kind of liked her first song that night.the second fell in line with sucky and repetitious.1 out of 2 ain't bad? oops,,that's 2 out of 3 ain't bad.(another great song)
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Let me take you to the movies, can I take you to the show
Let me be yours ever truly, can I make your garden grow
From the houses of the holy we can watch the white doves go
From the door comes Satan's daughter, and it only goes to show
and you know
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And I ain't hit that note,
But, fuck you stupid hoe
Yeah, fuck you stupid hoe
I said fuck a stupid hoe,
Yeah, fuck a stupid hoe
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Music in general has been in big trouble since 1992. There have been no new forms of music that have been allowed to flourish in the last twenty years. Everything is stale; it is like being trapped in a locked bank vault where the oxygen is slowly being used up and there is no fresh air to replace it. Any artistic expression that has the potential to succeed in captivating and stimulating the hearts and minds of large numbers of people is now censored immediately upon discovery, unless the artist can be purchased and his/her work altered to suit the buyer’s wishes, marketed to specific demographics, and mass-produced into mere commodities priced for retail sale.
Digital technology replacing analog also had a lot to do with suppressing musical creativity as well. One commenter mentioned the loudness war, and that was right on.
I'm a longtime heavy metal fan, and I can say with absolute certainty that there was a true "golden age" of heavy metal that took place between the years 1983 and 1991. I wrote an entire essay on it here:
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/the-true-spirit-of-heavy-metal
Another fan of true heavy metal wrote something very similar here:
http://www.pajiba.com/music/the-golden-age-of-metal.php
But when the golden age ended, it ended for ALL music, including rap and hip hop. All creative forces for rap and hip hop were annihilated in 1992 as well. This was because of a deal between the music industry and the private prison industry. Private prison company executives wanted to make sure the prisons stayed full, and they enlisted the help of gangster rap.
It was all over after that. We're still suffocating, and YouTube is our last hope.
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And no, I don't think the music from my generation was the best, so this isn't about snobbery. It's just that there are only 12 notes, and pretty much everything has been done with those 12 notes. I hear these cheesy fashion rock bands, and immediately recognize that their music will disappear into a black hole in 5 or 10 years, never to be heard again. I predicted this exact thing back in the 90's, with the rapid decline we saw at that time, and that's exactly what happened. Rock/pop/r&b is dead.
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Modern music does suck
Smashing Pumpkins
Alanis Morrisett
Soundgarden
Live
U2
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Sublime
Fishbone
Oasis
REM
Pearl Jam
Beck
Radiohead
Nirvana
Green Day
Lenny Kravitz
Blues Traveler
Prince
and many more
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music today do not suck
good music of this era: between the buried and me, the mountain goats, foster the people, the dillinger escape plan, mastodon, empire! empire! (i was a lonely real estate), andrew jackson jihad, fleet foxes, the black keys, that is to name a few. stop looking at music on the radio and acting like if it's the only thing around. you got internet and you can find so much good music.
better yet, form your own band like i am about to do.
keep on living in the past and keep listening to nothing but boring dad rock while i enjoy the good music of today and yesterday.
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kill niggers mom,and dad,and son,die niggers... .and finally we have good music again...cause niggers are dead..
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Killing niggers
Walking on the street
down to south central...
i saw i nigger,and i shoot him down
shoot,shoot,shoot,shoot this dead roach...
roaches are running....
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, the pitch content of music has shriveled somewhat. The basic pitch vocabulary has remained unchanged—the same notes and chords that were popular in decades past are popular today—but the syntax has become more restricted. Musicians today seem to be less adventurous in moving from one chord or note to another, instead following the paths well-trod by their predecessors and contemporaries.”
The pop music study’s findings were published in the July 26th online edition of Scientific Reports.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/285841/pop-music-homogenized-study-finds-kids-these-days-dont-understand-go od-music/#xeDyCBEJVYr0cFyb.99
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From Indonesia: I also agree,..but what can we DO about it?
if we're just complaining here endlessly, then it will be just that: mere complaining!
I think it would be best if EACH of us here can start taking ACTIONS, for example:
1) by supporting (& buying) the REAL, talented artists/musicians & their products out there
2) by boycotting the "mainstream" crappy pop-artists' products (eg: CD, concerts, etc)
3) talk about this to your ignorant friends etc, especially "trend-followers" type of people
4) join together and do some kind of strike, protest, or petition to the music labels
5) if you have some big money and/or big connection, perhaps try to invent or create another business-system that can SUPPORT the real talents, instead of the crappy mass-produced so-called "artists".
6) create your OWN music, to protest against the 'mainstream' crappy artists/musicians/music today/nowadays.
7) etc etc.. the list could be endless, the limit is your creativity.
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Not all of today's music is bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljhz_eGFPAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVDhuFMMa9k
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX8ebGCzGeo
http://www.yo utube.com/watch?v=cQcE4_7-X78
I can go on all day, but there is a lot of good music coming out these days, you will just have to know where to find it. You won't find it on the radio, that's for sure.
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Today's music sucks
That's right. The music of 60's and 70's.
Why?
Because todays music is not ART. Lack of skills and talents.
Try listen today's music, what did you hear?
That's right. VOICES from the begining to end. No instrumental skill involved. No melody at all. The singer think that the instrument will ruin their voice and performance on stage.
I have kids 13 and 14 years old. They listened to Bruno Mars because they want to dress like him, today's idol. But when they really want to listening, they listened my own record, such Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young and Procol Harum.
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music has sucked for over a decade now!
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Modern Music Sucks
You want REAL music, try America from the 70's. If that type of stuff were hot on the mainstream radio these days, many kids would be a lot smarter and awakened.
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I disagree.
Not all music these days is bad, I can name several albums from this year that I think should be classics in the future, but you know why they may not become classics? Because people are too busy whining about how ALL music sucks these days when you are actually only looking at the top 40 charts. Justin Bieber isn't the end of all music, you know.
Let's get out there and explore music, look beyond the top 40 charts, turn off terrestrial radio. Good music is still out there you know, you'll just have to look. Better yet, if you are so dissatisfied with the music of today, make your own music and see if you can do better. Do something to change the industry just like those old bands/musicians that we all love so much, instead, you all whine. Whining and complaining will only get you so far.
Not all music from the past was great, the thing is that you are looking at the past through rose colored glasses; therefore, you have forgotten about all of the clunkers in the history of music and you remember all of the good bands/singers/musicians, which is why yesterday's music seems better than today's music. Yes, there is a lot of crap out there now, but music's no worse or better than it used to be, you are just looking in the wrong places.
Bottom line, there is still plenty of good music today, just turn off terrestrial radio and start looking for good music. There is a lot more to music than what the media feeds you.
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Musician
Connection from the music to your heart is what a good music should be.
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The music industry now more than ever focuses on young singers, appearance, and create manufactured music to turn the quickest dollar possible. I guess as far as appearance is concerned you can blame MTV. Yes Video really did kill a radio star. But at least in the 80's there were many if not the most different kinds of genre being played in mainstream then any other decade in rock history. Just get the Billboard Hot 100 books per decade by Joel Whitburn and decide for yourself.
Take video and the introduction of the World Wide Web, and the Telcom laws of 1996, and that is why music is in trouble. Kids listen to what big business feeds them. With a lot of today's artists getting the shaft because the music industry won't give them time to develop, is why you see by far the mainstream music today is the worst it has ever been... on so many levels.
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America is not dumb it's full blown cant think to save my life retarded
I hate music today because its all the same shit
The older music had diversity but now all the music out today is the same it's no different from one song to the other look at old rap old country and old rock not one of these genres sounded the same because there were people who actually tried to make music and made their own lyrics I'm 15 I love the old music and bands that actually sounded good like
Gunsnroses,acdc,Ozzie, van Halen and all the other good bands
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Quit complaining, we need solutions.
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Music sucks
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enter inside a pop crap popstar,and kill him or her and voilá...bring terror to them,fight terror with terror,welcome to terrordome....
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td-mr Forrest why this things happened to you and why you did that countermeasure?
F-Im a Brazilian,brunnete type of guy,i did it because this history is too long: all of this shit started in 1992 in high school when i have the unpleasant taste that knew a motherfucker attention whore in my classroom called Eliane Laurett de souza,she becames talking to me trying to talk sweet,probably to make her "friend"called Alexandre jealous because she has a crush on him but only because he was a rich kid and she had a girfriend at that time,and she(Eliane)is a materialistic whore,those kind of woman that only goal is money,its like a hooker,but not a good hooker that is honest women,its all about money,pieces of paper.So she becames to develop a fake friendship with me,i was a teenager at that time,but not so stupid,ive tryied to date a girl called Patricia Miranda,but she was a selfish stupid bastard,i tought she could be lesbian,because another girl called Monica had a jealousy when ive talkint to Pat.I found and felt in love with another girl,light skinned,brown hair,called Danielle,she was sexy and nerdy,that i felt in love with her quick,and after that i could develop some with her,out of school.But lets go back to the Enemy called Eliane,that slut becames to talk to me by the phone,lotsa of times,she is guilt for my parents spent money on phone account,she always trying to call me and call back,and when i talking to her she spent my time with her bullshit talking about esoteric foobar talk like spiritism,ghosts, yoga,softpop new wave 80s artists(thanks whore,now i know who is Ruppert Holmes and Him song,and Robert Smith and The Cure)and all cliched that some stupid pseudo new age girl talk.this was 92.all this stupid situation goes to 93,i was dumb to stand this rain,so she seduces me too much that in 93 i was felt a crush on her,felt love and passion for her,when she called me at phone,she always complaining about a ugly stupid boyfriend called Samir,and i was a dumb to listen to her shittalk,ive made a huge mistake,said to her that i was loving her,and she was fine to me.That time she acted like a slut with me,and we had a fight by the phone,and we decided to no talk with each other no more,two years passed,and i found her in 96 during a bus station,i was on a bus line going to school,and she passed close to me,and kissed my face,but she was skinny,ugly,different,and she told me that she wants to see me again,im like a fool,did a chance to talk to her,97 past and she founds me again,gave me her phone number,and she always found me to talk about her life and i spent my time for nothing,she was dating with another guy and she said that she was going to USA to work and yada yada again,and im listen,like a fool,she saying about she felt in love by a chinese dude little penis,and she was dating with the lp victor charlie in Malaysia some crap like that,after that she traveled to US because she had a husband now Called Mr Holz,her father liked him because he was a white brazilian(btw,Eliane is white,a light skinned brown hair and a pair of beautyful blue eyed stupid girl)maybe her father is a racist,i dont know,maybe he dislikes white kids with curly hair or something,no mixed people in his redneck immigrant dumb head.She had a sister that she talked lotsa bullshit about her,they didnt got along,maybe lilly(eliane) was the villain,but i didnt realise that during that time,i was a nice guy,pure misery.I called her to United States by the public phone,innocently,to have the pleasure(not sexual)to listen her voice,and hear her stories again,im playing the stupid role in the friendzone,but i never imagine that only of her intention she was treat me like a dumb,like a Forest Gump peace of crap,,offended me,cheat me.Once in 98 she talked to me by phone via US,that her husband,now former hurted her(im imagined that guy or raped or violated her or striked her a..during a friendly love act ha ha ha)she didnt explained that so clear,and i was confused about that.so when she came back to Brazil,she starts to work again and travel by the country,and more phone spent time,and i was friendzoned but never had this what a fuck is it,without knowledge about this subject.During the early years of Internet we changed E mails,and after two years in 2001,she decides to visit me in my home,and i was visited her home,it was embarrassing,because after i leave her home,she founded a another guy that was visiting her same day,i felt humiliated,but its will have a payback,i thought,whe she camed im my home,she brought a Smashin Pumpkins video for me and her watch on my tv,my father thoughts that she was my girlfriend,she said that she was the only a beautiful girl that i brought home,but he was wrong because my redhair former girfriend,a white ginger small girl and my Sister s friend was there,but she pretended not be jealous with Eli s presence,it was hard to redhead.
So when 2001 Eliane said to me by the phone that about we date,yes date,find a place to talk,maybe walking on the shore,just to talk,nothing more important,she said that to me to go to her house,and ive arrived there and dang,she wasnt there,probably siting in another s macho lap,i felt humiliated again,offended again,and ive talked to her mother,that im not a dumb and she could respect me,and after that i send a email talking about how eliane was stupid",she felt as she was targeted by a shot to her ego trip,right betwen the eyes,opened the hurt.and we didnt talk to each other again,till 2006 that she founded me on Orkut social net,and tryied to bother me again,but i payback her again,saying that im not her forest gump,at that time a dated another girls,have sex with some of them,and sent to shut the fuck up and go to hell some kinds of girls like her,i was smart, wiser,and learned by the worst way how to deal with motherfuckers like Eliane,and recently in 2012,she appears on Facebook,spreading her shit talk again with pseudoactivism,pseudo protect the nature fake talk,and im a pure bastard,with a pure bastard s heart,she almost a saint(i prefer silvia saint,sorry)im pseudo spiritualized person talk,that is Eliane s favorite quotes,maybe she cheated other guys with same modus operandi by a dummass,thats what she is in real life,She Lives in Finland now,she is coward,maybe she so coward that she does not have courage to send me a answer,and she is hidding in that frozen country afraid to come back,and face the reality..i said to her in facebook that ive hate her,its true,all love that i felt for her becames hate,maybe i felt to punch her right on her face,but when she becames sick,got a cancer,got a desease,a cold,some boyfriend or husband hurt her,she is paying for fuck me up,fucked up my youth,because i loved her for real deal,and its hurts,this was a desease that she did with me during those years,with a lack of desrespect to me as a human,so i dont have a any respect for her right now as a human,also,because she wants to pay for that,and she paid,and she will pay,and if she doesnt not say sorry to me,she will still paying with her miserable life,i never meant to be if we virtually became boyfriend and husband,i never meant to be jealous or desrespect her,or treat her like a proprierty,we could really love each other,but maybe she was a stupid frigid woman,that prefers not have joy in life,but knew she as stupid woman that she is,she choosed making fun of me,and now will face my payback,doesnt matter if she trained her son like a dog to kill me or try to punch my face,i dont care and im ready to fight back as a man,and this will be a tragedy for real,and to avoid this,its much better her keep her arse out.Every time she listen to 80s soft pop she will reminds me,every time she listen Katy Perry s the one who got away,it hurts her and make she changes the radio station,its too much to a coward woman,who stab people by back,for me now,sometimes a laugh inside,knowing the moments that other guys fucked her up in treat her bad both senses,thats the lesson to women that try to friendzone guys that realy loved them,or you can die,or be fucked up for rest of your lives,stupid women..and think about that fortunatelly not all girls are motherfuckers like you,you when become old,can be changed by a new one,fresh and young,and you will be the granny living with cats,you crazy sociopat bitches.
this is a message from James Taylor,you get a"friend"
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This is bullshit.
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Wrong generation?
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You Did Right Forrest!!
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Quit complaining
Honestly, if you think that popular music today sucks, well, here's the thing, popular music always sucked. You are just aware of it now because you are older. Pop music was always about marketing, nothing new.
Stop complaining.
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To you 70's baby boomers grandpas and grandmas
s..The music i litsen to daily is mostly by symphonic metal bands like Amberian dawn,Tarja Turunen,etc..awesome operatic voices but in a rock format with symphonic accompaniment(often synthesizer in replacement of).
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I mean, really, most disco & 70s rock was godawful.
And keep in mind that Ozzy just put out a new album, so that's "modern music" that doesn't suck.
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Real music please come back... all is forgiven.
There's always been good and bad stuff right through the ages, but I've never witnessed so much badness both mainstream and a little off the beaten track.
Who'd have thought for example the likes of the frighteningly bad One Direction and Jason Derulo all the way up to Sean 'biggedy-bong' Paul to horror shows like Avichi would be commonly accepted and actually praised? And don't get me started on the idiot that is Nicki Menagerie (auto correct comedy name accepted.)
The worst is all the oversexualised tripe aimed at kids via the music industry, it's utterly vile.
And I'm not going to feel even remotely bad about about saying I wish 'Eminema' would quit making his small whining angry white man shock rap.
And as to why we idolise ex pimps and drug dealers such as Snoopy dawg and 'fifty-pence down the pub' is beyond me.
As for a final point? A lot of current RnB has nothing to do whatsoever with actual rhythm and blues... clue's in the name.
Extremely sad times.
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its just too easy, especially with large, monopolized, oligarchies ruling over the distribution networks and controlling content production ultimately.
its just too hard to repeatedly reproduce the jimi Hendrix or such and such personality character. it requires actual talent, and a lifetime of skill gained through sacrifice. Not only physical sacrifice but emotional. its something so unique to the individual, nobody can ever reproduce the same thing the same way.
but to produce shit is easy. its hard to control a true artist who controls his own content, who pulls his own strings.
that means, that if something good comes out it might not say what the big voices the movies and magazines tell us to worship say (because all those 'heroes' are anything but)
it might not be what those who hold the power in society want - and at the same time, it is not as profitable as when you can manipulate the consumer base into thinking any product you package is 'good' without any deeper, more critical or educated examination.
People, stupid people, who try to get by these days say 'I Like anything' afraid of being judged for their true feelings. afraid of real expression because society is stamping it out.
People are afraid of showing raw emotion. what makes us human. afraid of what makes art art. because art is inequal. LIFE is inequal. but not in the horrible economic way in which we all have been bred to believe is required.
it is inequal in expression, and glorious in its bounty. Look to youtube for all the talent that never would have been discovered. never sold for any money in an era before the modern.
there is a war going on, at a level nobody can see with the naked eye, that will be spoken of in history long after we are all dead. A silent war, waged while an overindulgent, unknowingly servile population sleeps.
It is a war over who gets to set the standards. over who gets to make the rules. a war between independent and established media sources
in the 70s -- 80s -- 90s, even in very recent history. before all the mergers. before all the globalization -- which is really just monopolization. there were more independent forces in the economy which had variant, although establishment appeasing voices.
there were more small guys competing over producing things like movies/tv shows, music, and pretty much everything. so quality was better. choices were better.
but when you put maybe, 3-7 people in a room and then put them in charge of everything at the top. this is a natural consequence of what happens. they want to make shit easier for themselves to maintain dominance.
I think this is really what is responsible for what we see. fewer people, trying to use psychology to make more fast bucks from more people by any means necessary.
I think, today, you could be the literal reincarnation of jimi Hendrix, and god could come behind you from heaven literally, and if it wasn't gonna make the establishment no money, You wouldn't even make a headline in a newspaper nobody reads anymore. it never even happened as far as they concerned. they just deny it forever until there is massive social backlash and they become public laughingstock for all to see. then they awkwardly try to shift center to cover for it like the fake little assholes every single human dirtbag (being) has always been.
good art only exists in the vacuum of the cultures that create it. culture has been separated from art. unless the filth and brainwashing we all have been subjected to has suddenly become 'art' but I guess the CIA did a good job of making that reality in the 70s.
the revolution that could be at hand is honestly the power of the internet. I'm not sure anyone will ever use it to the potential it could be.
the internet puts broadcasting power in everyday peoples hands. it puts the power to supercede the middle men into our grasp.
the internet gives us power to create our own fame and remove some level of the wealth gained by manipulating the fame of others. it restores integrity to art by allowing the piracy, the rule breaking, the free access and experimentation, and everything that has characterized art from the beginning.
look back onto the jazz age and the bootlegged fakebooks that got many performers through shows. Look back to the subculture of any age, copying tapes, etc. that's how the artists were able to get their influences often, irrespective of time.
it allows the people a window beyond the corporate overlord's shell of a world view. it is the potential sword upon which his power may fall.
but everyone is lazy, content. people grew up with things, have fond memories, and nostalgia/social acceptance keeps this fake death culture around us.
everyones standards have dropped.
Does art mimick life? or has life begun to mimick the mass produced bullshit we have been fed?
does anyone even know anymore?
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Its not the stations that are the problem, honestly, its the poor excuse for culture that exists nowadays. everything is obviously fake and plastic. all the mass produced 'rap stars' that don't even have the cultural substance of the origins (which I don't personally even like either, but can at least respect as a form of art),
all the shameless rapes of actual talent and poor excuses for modernization without effort.
my tin foil hat is firmly affixed, I suppose.
but with all the benefits of centralized structure- art is something that always fails within it.
not every man can be a brilliant inventor, but if you lower the standards of art, any man can be an artist.
a man who owns many artists is able to make more money than any artist individually. this makes economic sense.
the problem arises in any system when the balance of people making money off any said industry become too few.
it becomes too hard for things like the past -- where each subculture had its own business -- to work anymore.
now you have one megacorp. trying to make as much money as possible at any cost.
of course they are going to try to manufacture stars, so they can pay the performers less, make more off IP rights and larger portions of performance fees.
bob Dylan took home a shit ton more money per song/performance than lady ga ga, or lil wayne ever will or can -- regardless of whether they take home more money overall (over a much shorter timespan and relevant inflationary period mind you)
I have no good solution for this. they all tend to end nastily if history is looked at. all of them. even not fixing it (although we are, hopefully, far from any such experiential horrors or doom)
I just suggest it as the cause for why we all agree older things have more character about them, more substance or quality.
some things mass production makes far better and easier, while others it is a great deficit to society.
our modern world has become that system on steroids.
and while the entertainment industry is not emblematic of the big picture at all (there is still a lot of freedom clearly), the entertainment industry has been a known asset to the media/govt and TPTB and controlled for a very long time. this is mostly actually out in the open for anyone to see, with FAMOUS NEWSCASTERS having been agents in the CIA even! like a specific current one which I am referencing on CNN.
there is a lot of exposes on the CIA infiltrating radio in the 50s.
I'm not BLAMING it on them -- what I'm exposing is that clearly, cartels whom only have the interest of profits have long controlled these industries, and actually ended up becoming powerful, controlling titans in the modern day.
many different vested economic interests lie behind a everything, and not everything is totally insincere.
but i'll be damned if 3/4ths of it isn't totally insincere bullshit -- with the only difference between me and my day job and the performer/newscaster/actor/musican and theirs is the paycheck they bring home and the ass they get after work.
if they don't wish every second shit was over. that they had their own voice. a choice, or could just not go to work.
its not like jimi Hendrix, playing on the streets of harlem for a dime homeless. not caring if he lived or died. and even though he died living in excess, every time he went out there he actually played his soul out, and nobody censored it.
people did rape him for profit/steal from him literally (he was accused of tax fraud but was paid salary from his concerts lol crooked manager), and probably murdered him because he was going to leave and start his own shit.
but the fact is, there was an economy in place at that time in which established players, like eric Clapton and whatever record companies, couldn't just push him out right away, he changed the standard! he challenged the accepted norms of the time.
such challenges are impossible now. I'm sure theres a brilliant non-elon musk-rich engineer who could solve just as many problems or more but will never get the chance -- never arise to the same pomp or circumstance.
the internet allows people the power to control their own destinies. but people like being told what to think. people care about being accepted more than anything else.
If you make your culture part of being accepted, then you win. that's all there is to it in this game.
only those who actively rebel and wish to be vilified or exiled by their peers would truly delve into the opinion that everything everyone else believes is literally artless brainwashing material.
but that is not what is required merely to realize that older music and art had more variant emotional qualities.
not to mention the recordings were actually more faithful before the loudness wars -- but that hardly matters now, with 90% of pop culture being actual artless filth as I described.
real art coming out today would not re-affirm peoples beliefs. real art would admit we are on the way down the shitter fast. that everyone is a slut and maybe promiscuity isn't so great. that shit is unfair, and people bragging about money and ho's should be shamed in the street for their greed and gluttony -- or at the very least not idolized for their clear and obvious dedication to everything that is evil in the world.
the real trip down the rabbit hole begins when you realize all our social standards are contrived. some for good reasons, and others maybe not. it involves realizing maybe the 'heroes' as we know them could have been villains. perhaps the pages of history didn't turn exactly how we were led to think.
this even applies to a lot of the art some of us snobs adore. its true. its scary true.
there is nothing sacred. no single, tangible truth for anything we believe we know. confirmation bias, as well as what I would call a conformation bias, merge with sands of time to make true history inconceivable to anyone lost within the flow of time.
there is no ideal period or frame in which 'good' art can exist.
I Only make the claim of belief that a centralized control structure more interested in overall profits rather than quality run amuck, will cause the degeneracy many claim to see in the areas of art, music, and film.
these and other social structures are the first things to suffer from cultural stress. they only arise from free time -- and only when people from varying backgrounds have such free time, and the social ability to go anywhere with it.
changes to the social structure change things, which is natural. But radical changes to such structure which involve centralization and less competition, always result in this.
the difference between capitalism and communism disappears in the latest stages -- when the very few gain power over the great masses of the world -- and more so, have the scientific management and necessary infrastructure with which to control them.
when the means of production are all controlled by one centralized source, the only difference between capitalism and communism becomes how they got there.
in the globalized world, we are facing much the same cultural dilemma as the soviet union. where drug abuse didn't exist because the government said it didn't lol.
the problem is the people distributing the information, the people producing it, all of them are owned by the same few fuckers. even the stuff we like and agree with.
nothing is sincere and no source can be trusted. Not only that but those who send out the messages wish to convince those that hear it to support all their other shit.
well what about everyone elses shit? don't they have enough control? would it really hurt them, if they are going to monopolize, to accept lower profit margins and accept a level of personal stagnation in order for variety to still exist?
that's where it hurts. that's where it begins to cross the line into psychological slavery.
When things that were once considered viable, profitable solutions now 'aren't profitable enough' so instead of that RPG you get another shooter. so that instead of that new rock song you get another mass produced pop/country/fake rap drivel bullshit that continues to breath lifeblood into this shit culture that needs to lay over and breath its last.
the problem is the scale of everything being so large. real art is relegated to real people, who have little time for it often.
whose dreams get to become reality has drastically slimmed over the years. the expectations have been set and the bar has been lowered.
welcome to your plastic paradise. the prison of our own creating. from the promise of easier work and more free time, to the total loss of free time and independence. to the total loss of having an economic voice, even though the internet has empowered us to have a literal voice.
but then again, the expectations have been set, and I'm some crazy anonymous coward on the internet. who are you going to believe?
at least i'll admit my beliefs are flawed, and probably not right. and that's more than you'll get from most others.
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Music
It has passed decades and all the stuff I hear on radios is the old stuff.
Moreover, it has passed 3 centuries and people still remember Mozart.
It is the plain truth; today's music is crap. Get over it and don't ballistic on people.
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Re: It's true
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Re: We'll agree to disagree.
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Music doesn't suck now.
There is a lot of great music coming out daily. If you only focus on the charts, of course you are going to be disappointed with modern music.
Get on Bandcamp, look for music in your preferred genre(s) and you should find some good music.
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Good Music Years Ago
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agree 100pct
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