Taking A Picture Of A Band Violates Their Rights?
from the what-law-does-that-break? dept
Well here's a story that combines the insanity over camera phones with the insanity over intellectual property. First pointed out by Tim Wu who found people being turned away at an RIAA sponsored concert at the DNC, apparently many clubs are now banning camera phones in the clubs because the bands are afraid their images will end up on eBay and they won't get any cash for it. Seriously. Apparently, we've reached such a level of greed that all common sense has gone out the window.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Greed, or desperation
With the RIAA standing in the middle, maybe protecting ones image is the only way some bands can get by anymore.
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Not too surprising
I just don't get it. The RIAA are a bunch of crooks and losers.
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Banning Cameras
In an extreme case of this while dining out with my family at PF Chang's China Bistro in Emmeryville this week I was asked not to take pictures in the resturant. Looks like I will not be going back there. I suppose there is probably a huge market on eBay for pictures of my two year old sitting in a high chair and enjoying some Chow Mein at PF Chang's.
The food was actually really good but I think I'll just go back to Shen Hua in Berkeley where they have never asked me not to take pictures.
Simply ridiculous.
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Maybe Pictures are part of their revenue recovery stream.
Just being ludricous. But I have read where you advocate giving away music, ie free downloads/sharing, thus garnering a larger audience and drawing fans to the concerts where they get a larger chunk of the revenue. You've also mentioned that bands could sale 'band related materials' so why not photos ?
I'm simply bringing this out as a 'what if' question. If we do see free downloads/sharing ... what do we lose ? The right to take pictures, hum the words, etc ?
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First off, i can tell you, in most situations, if not all, you will hardly get a good image if you are shooting in a low light situation with a point and shoot. Flash just makes it worse.
Sure, take pictures of your friends and kids, but I for one am glad since I don't walk out blind when the concert is done.
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I was at a concert the other night and camera phones were everywhere, only one bloke had the brains to take a regular digital camera, I'm sure his 4MP images with a flash came out much better than those 0.3MP camera phones!
This is just an extension of the "people phoning people from concerts to record the music" cases, it's BS!
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Re: Banning Cameras
Also, the restaurant thing - it is a bit sad taking pictures of food, and PF Changs is way overpriced anyway....
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Non-story
"Managers at The Backyard said the issue of camera phones has come up in previous meetings before. They said so far no artists have complained about them."
"But, in the future as the camera phone pictures get even clearer, they say they'll have to explore the issue further."
In other words, we can glean that (a) Doug Shupe of News-Austin wanted to fill out his camera phone story from other than just the usual crimestopper/snooping angles, AND (b) Barry Kohlus at The Backyard stresses about a subject (camera phones) that his clients (the artists) don't really care about.
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I'd blame the artists though in this case; they need to stand up and take control over their own performances. If they have no problem with cameras, they need to object to the rule. If they have a problem with the RIAA, they need to voice it publicly. For so many musicians, being umbrella'd by the RIAA is like being in a club they dont want to.
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private vs. public
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There are already laws on the books forbidding unauthorized commercial use of a person's likeness, etc, so I could still concievably sue someone if they were to take pictures of my show and then sell a coffee-table book.
For an emerging artist (again, such as myself), I see nothing but benefit from having people take pictures and presumably post them online.
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