Microsoft Shuts Down Nearly All Southern California Air Traffic

from the that'll-get-you dept

Whoops. Having just flown back from southern California this past weekend from the DEMOmobile conference, I'm glad this "glitch" didn't happen until Tuesday. Apparently, there was a "radio breakdown" that left almost all air traffic in SoCal without guidance. The culprit? Microsoft. Apparently, the air traffic control system being used is now run on Microsoft, after recently replacing a Unix-based system. Just one problem: the system needs to be rebooted every 30 days to avoid a "data overload," and someone forgot to manually run the reboot. Beyond the shock of discovering that this air traffic control system can't handle very much data, you have to wonder why the reboot system can't be automated, or at least have a "reminder" go off at some point.
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  • identicon
    aReader(), 17 Sep 2004 @ 12:44pm

    Is this the only reason?

    This looks like a blame game. The system was down for quite some time and the air-traffic was halted for about 4-5 hours. If it is just the case of re-booting, they could have solved this issue in few minutes. I think this is a good way of passing the blame on Microsoft. The article is unclear on what happened *after* the system went down. I am sure there is more to this story.
    Not that I am fond of Microsoft systems for such mission-critical applications, but this seems to be a distraction introduced to cover up what exactly happened.

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    • identicon
      Erik, 17 Sep 2004 @ 2:58pm

      Re: Is this the only reason?

      Boy are you guys in a reality distortion field! Ask the Navy what they think of MS for "Mission Critical" applications.

      Thank God no one was killed!

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    • identicon
      Director Mitch, 17 Sep 2004 @ 9:31pm

      I was one of the ones stuck

      If anyone is really bored, you can read here about my adventure of being stuck in the Phoenix airport during this thing.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    dorpus, 17 Sep 2004 @ 12:53pm

    What if

    I knew a guy who lived next to the airport and built a homemade radar to track airplanes going in and out of the airport. The FAA got mad and sent agents to his door, so he had to take it down. The same guy used to launch homemade rockets built out of aluminum, before the FAA cracked down on the practice.

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  • identicon
    John Morales, 17 Sep 2004 @ 12:54pm

    No Subject Given

    Microsoft products are just fine for mission critical applications. The system has to be designed for it, however. It sounds like they need to talk to whoever built their stupid system.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 18 Sep 2004 @ 8:13pm

      Re: Read EULA

      "...just fine for mission critical applications."

      But you are very right in that the only possible entity that can be blamed is the system designer, since they have no recourse with Microsoft. The deep pocket stop there. Microsoft has absolved itself of any accountability associated with Windows usage. Surprised? Read Windows XP EULA paragraphs 16 and 17. See URL above.

      Microsoft doesn't really stand behind the actual OS product, you get it AS IS. It simply stands behind the retail box...it has authorized software in it and you puchased it. You might be eligible for a refund in some states if the media is defective...which to Microsoft means it passes an ISO checksum test. Here's a couple tidbits from the URL referenced above.

      "...Microsoft and its suppliers provide the Software and support services (if any) AS IS AND WITH ALL FAULTS, and hereby disclaim all other warranties and conditions, whether express, implied or statutory, including, but not limited to, any (if any) implied warranties, duties or conditions of merchantability, of fitness for a particular purpose, of reliability or availability, of accuracy or completeness of responses, of results, of workmanlike effort, of lack of viruses, and of lack of negligence, all with regard to the Software, and the provision of or failure to provide support or other services, information, software, and related content through the Software or otherwise arising out of the use of the Software. ALSO, THERE IS NO WARRANTY OR CONDITION OF TITLE, QUIET ENJOYMENT, QUIET POSSESSION, CORRESPONDENCE TO DESCRIPTION OR NON-INFRINGEMENT WITH REGARD TO THE SOFTWARE."

      I suspect the system got bit by an automatic application of SP2. Based on the EULA, automated updates by Microsoft and approved third parties are to be expected. It would be the responsibility of the System designer to test to see if Windows still behaves the same after Microsoft delivers automated SPs from Microsoft or trusted third parties.

      Yep, that's got to be the deal we need on mission critical software. Variables that can't be controlled altering the system...this will please the customer greatly.

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    • identicon
      Chomper, 19 Sep 2004 @ 5:45pm

      Re: No Subject Given

      Yeah right M$ produces are just fine for mission critical apps.

      It's the little things that count. If it can't run a secure environment for the home, how the hell is it supposed to do that for mission critical apps?

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 17 Sep 2004 @ 5:00pm

    No Subject Given

    The article mentions a problem that occurs after 49.7 days... Could it be the infamous Win 95/98 crash first reported in 1999? A five year old bug in a seriously outdated OS? And Win 98 running air traffic control?!?!?!?

    Article from 1999 on 49.7 day bug

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    tommixx, 23 Apr 2006 @ 5:26pm

    Microsoft Shuts Down Nearly All Southern Californi

    From Unix to Microsoft, For a critical application where lives are at stake?.

    Are they Insane???

    I wouldn't trust Microsoft to run a traffic light system, let alone a critical airport radar system....

    link to this | view in chronology ]


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