War Driving... That Big City Crime, Moving To The 'Burbs
from the not-this-again dept
You might have thought that, by now, with so many stories overhyping and misleading people about the "threat" of open WiFi that local news reporters would know better than to run another one. Yet, here we have a local TV news station in Fresno, California running a standard "open WiFi is pure evil" story with some amusing additions. First, they say that it's a "big city crime" that's now moving out to more rural areas. Funny, we're still not convinced it's a crime, let alone a "big city" one. Second, the news report talks about someone arrested and charged with "stealing internet service," because he was found sitting in a car with a laptop. The video report on the story even includes a mug shot with big red words "ARRESTED" to scare off those of you rural citizens who are attracted to this "big city crime." The news report also repeats the usual stuff about identity theft and whatnot without actually understanding the real issue (such as the fact that identity theft is extremely unlikely). It's also not at all clear how leaving your WiFi open will lead to obscene emails. There's a great part in the video, also, where a "cyber technician" shows a positively shocked reporter that he can see someone else's network (oh my goodness!) right from his very computer! And, then, he notes conspiratorially that if it weren't encrypted, which it is, he could use that network to actually surf the internet! So scary! Just using someone else's wireless connection is still a very gray zone when it comes to whether or not it's a crime. As people have pointed out, many people leave their WiFi open on purpose, to allow others to use it. The "loss" to the owner is minimal, if anything at all. Plus, there are some real legal questions about who owns those radio waves once they're off your property. We're all for people being more secure with their own WiFi, but these misleading and fear mongering stories really need to go.
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Open Wifi
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Mom always told me to share.
I refuse to use any of the Telcos anymore, all they want is control of my life and everyone elses.
this BS of them fighting Muni-Wifi is incredibly annoying, and the backlash is near. The politicians supporting the fight againts municipalities offering a service to their residents will not last long. The tech generation understands whats going on, and our votes get stronger every year as the old foggies die off. :D
If they don't like it, sue me. I'll gladly make sure every person possible knows how evil they really are, the greedy SOBs....
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WiFi Access
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wi-fi
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Wardriving is FUN!
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Wireless security and the Cobbler's children
Wasn't there a British case about a year ago where a guy was arrested and jailed for child porn traced to his IP address as a result of a compromised wireless connection? My memory is vague about the details, but as I recall, he made a pretty plausible case that he was not involved and was eventually released.
Whether my memory is playing tricks on me or not, once somebody's into your router, they can can send out hate mail, threats, whatever, to say nothing about hidden shares like C$. And it all traces back to your public IP address.
I gave a presentation about a year ago about wireless to a small group and could see 9 wireless routers, three of which were completely unprotected. I had internet access in 30 seconds, sanctimoniously made my point and got out. Untraceable. No encryption, no MAC address filtering, nothing. Lots of careless folks out there.
Months later, in late December, I was working in my office on a troublesome wireless connection on a client's machine and I turned off all the wireless security to get it to work. I was under some time pressure and was in a hurry. I finished the machine, returned it and got on to my next job. I forgot to disable wireless, because I very rarely use wireless in my office.
Then on New Year's Day morning, I was tinkering around with an IP scanner and caught my next door neighbor's kid in my network.
Ah, the sweet smell of hubris. Lesson learned. The best wireless security is not to use wireless at all.
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War driving in neighborhoods
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Re: Wireless security and the Cobbler's children
If someone that KNOWS what they are doing and has the time and technology to do it then there is not much you can do to stop them short of just turning OFF your network when you leave the house in the morning. I guess you could post an armed guard or your wife outside with a loaded gun to keep the war drivers away but then again how many of us want to give our wives a loaded gun. LOL...
Anyway, in all seriousness if you turn on WEP on your router/switch/firewall device it is going to keep out 99% of the honest ward drivers or neighbors that live within 1300 ft of your house.
If your home network is set up correctly your Internet gateway (dsl modem/cable modem) is going to be on a seperate IP subnet than your Linksys (whatever the brand is) router/switch/firewall.
You can enable WEP and you can filter Mac addresses as well to further complicate things.
Your typical end user that is looking to leach an IP address off your wireless AP is not going to have a clue how to find your hidden shares on your local computers. For that matter if you have a wireless network you should always have your "shares" password protected anyway.
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Sharing your WIFI?
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Re: Sharing your WIFI?
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lol
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Passwords
So its out there for anyone on your open connection to see. And you can do it without any skills.
Of course these days most ISP's have some security, and your general browser email (gmail, yahoo etc) is ok.
But still, its something to worry about. I don't care about someone using my bandwidth, but I do care about them getting personal information.
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War driving
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Re: War driving
I have a iPAQ with builtin Wifi - While at their house (they only have dialup ISP) my iPAQ found a open wifi and automatically connected. I was to determin that it was their neighbors. Later that day the neighbors came over for a visit and I mentioned that their wireless linksys rtr was not secure and that my PDA was able to connect.
Here I was thinking I was helping them, giving them a heads up - its a gated community so War driving is not a big threat. I work at a help desk and know how to set up just about every make of router.
The response was not what I expected, they got very iritated and accused me of "Hacking" - after repeated tries to explain their their unsecure router was "inviting" other wireless devices to connect. He claims he paid serious $ to "secure" his system mostly AV/firewall software. He even threatened to call the police.
I felt horrible that my comment damaged my relatives friendship with their neighbors but outside of clammin up -I don't know what else I could have done in that situation.
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What Lock Icon?
Which program would that be? The lock icon on a web browser relates to SSL security, not WEP or WPA, AFAIK.
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