Whoops, Cell Phones Will Give You Cancer Again
from the who-to-believe? dept
Continuing the long run of contradictory reports on the role of mobile-phone use in causing brain tumors, a new Swedish study says that long-term phone use raises a person's risk of getting a malignant brain tumor. The "link" is apparently that of the 905 people they surveyed that had malignant tumors, 85 of them were "high users of mobile phones". That really doesn't seem to indicate much causation -- all 905 people probably wore shoes at one point or another, so should we conclude that shoes cause brain tumors? The real long-term effects of mobile phone use on people's brains and bodies remain unclear, but this type of study doesn't really help clear things up, one way or another.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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USA Study on Cell(phone) abuse.
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Just so long as you don't mind going first, I'm sure everyone else will be happy to take the same cavalier attitude...
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sick by cellphone
each one of us have to take the decision
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Re: What Ever
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If I survey a random 905 people on the street, I'd be willing to wager at least 85% will be heavy mobile users.
Heck, hold a poll here...I'm a heavy mobile user...that's 100% so far.
When did a "research study" become any random survey or statistic, even if it holds nothing constant and doesn't prove anything?
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Fuck them teles
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Re: Fuck them teles
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H2O
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Re: Losing half the world population to cancer
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Just so long as you don't mind going first, I'm sure everyone else will be happy to take the same cavalier attitude..."
I'd rather do a random selection, or a logical selection. I'f I had to make a logical selection, I'd first throw in children under the age of 4 -- these are people that have yet to develop a personality or the ability to think for themselves. I'd then throw in people over the age of 80 that are considerd senile. I'd then throw in all the bed vegetables that are in any sort of undefined-length coma.
This would be a large chunk of the population which leaves all the people that can say and comprehend "I think, there for I am."
From there, I'd take all terminally ill patients. I'd then take people with incurable Sexually transmitted diseases such as aids.
You might be very angry with me right now, but if I had to make a selection of the population to live, then the people left over from what I've mentioned are the best suited to maintain the survival of our own species.
If at that point I still haven't killed off as many people as I've been required, I'd make a completely random selection of the rest -- including myself.
"A study conducted in the USA found that brain tumors caused heavy cell phone use. The data was backed up by other actions like talking on cell phones while driving and putting on mascara at 80 mph in the left lane, all at the same time. These actions can only be explained as the result of a brain tumor."
Thats funny
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If it ain't cellphones...
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NEWS FLASH!
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wow
reading these posts cracks me up. Almost makes me forget that ill get a lump in my head from talking on a cell phone :/
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Good
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You're weird
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Re: Zeroth404
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Can you hear me now?
You do have the handfree alternatives that the cell indusry has introduced that aren't wireless that are safe though. This is exactly what it says. The truth being stated yet again by another place and even here being ridiculed when it's factual if you know anything about the effects of radiation or Radio Frequency.
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"A total 85 of these 905 cases were so-called high users of mobile phones, that is they began early to use mobile and, or wireless telephones and used them a lot," the study said.
85 of 905...and you really believe they asked another 905 without tumors and less than 85 were moderate to heavy cell users? Not in this day & age!
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what about the others?
however..i'm willing to bet that the other 1095 ppl who didn't have brain tumors, also talked on cell phones. maybe not ALL were high users..but i can guarantee at least some were.
the study only shows half the story in order to even make a story.
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Re: Fuck them teles
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Re: USA Study on Cell(phone) abuse.
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I was speaking in a worst-case scenario, which portion of humanity we'd be better with than without.
Anthony,
Let me pound your ass, troll.
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I did, and now I have a brain tumor."
Stay off my name.
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oh yeah, and if it has brain cancer.
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If we can find out what CAUSES cancer then we can avoid those things and not get cancer. If I were you I would want them to find out as much about it as I could so other people wouldn't have to lose their loved ones either.
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stupidity is cause by baby-talk.
:-)
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You need to slow down and listen to yourself.
Cancer is caused by unseen forces acting on living cells. any kind of radiation can cause cancer. Probably even magnetism.
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Re: children under 4
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Who Cares
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True. But if they discover that the radiation in cell phones drastically increase the probability of getting cancer, then I want to know so I can stop using mine. Why don't you want to be informed?
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That may be true. I'm not sure children think for themselves until they learn it from other people. You can raise your child to believe in some religion, it doesn't mean that the child chose to believe in it, they are only assimilating with the fear not to assimilate because its embedded in their mind.
One thing that you cannot argue is that children are ideolgical beyond belief. all they know is "I want, I want, I want" until you teach them better.
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And had brain tumors.
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Why don't you do some research yourself, instead of relying on "them," whoever "they" are?
"Why don't you want to be informed?"
What gives you this impression?
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And had brain tumors."
Looks like I have an arch nemesis. Or at least a wannabe.
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First of all 'they' are scientists and I would very much like to do the research but I lack the time and resources to do it myself so i will have to rely on someone else.
"Why don't you want to be informed?"
"What gives you this impression?"
Because of your opening statement:
"If we lose half the population to cancer, that still leaves us well over 3 billion people left on the planet"
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worry more about what you put in your mouth than what you put by your head. Rare steaks, coagulated blood, bad eating habits and a poor workout regimen can kill you even before cancer can get to you.
everything in moderation.
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But WHO are they? you know their names? Are they competent? You just don't know.
"Why don't you want to be informed?"
"What gives you this impression?"
"Because of your opening statement:"
"If we lose half the population to cancer, that still leaves us well over 3 billion people left on the planet"
Is that not enough people? :-)
"everything in moderation."
even moderation :-)
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the family. but its still better a senile 83 year old than a healthy 15 or 50 year old
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Population Control and You.
Perhaps we should rethink our view on lengthening the human lifespan and ensuring that every poor person around the world has adequate food and protection from disease, etc. Perhaps it would, in the long run, be in our best interest to thin the congestion in large cities and lessen the burden on our producers of food, energy, material goods, etc.
Think about it.
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No I don't know them personally. I would think that at the very least they completed a PhD which means they cared enough about their subject to spend the years completing their education.
"Is that [3 billion] not enough people? :-) "
It is enough people but your attitude shows that you care about only yourself.
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I'm really not suer where you got that impression. Obviously I have my own will to live and will do anything necessary and rational to ensure that I stay alive. if I'm being attacked and my life is threatened, you're damn right I'll kill somebody, but if I had the choice of saving a large mass of people at the cost of risking my life, I'd do it. I'd only GIVE my life for people if I knew them personally. Otherwise, how am I to know what kind of people they are? maybe its a group of serial killers and child rapists?
I'm not maniacle. if you think I'm being irational let me know, though I can't garauntee that I'll agree.
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I don't think you are totally irrational in wanting to preserve your own life. I just don't think you care about anybody other than yourself. I do care if 3 billion people suffer a horrible death that could have been prevented. Even if I don't know a single one of them personally. Even though some of them are going to be serial killers and rapists, a larger percentage are innocent children and good people.
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It would merely start a run on lawsuits and people would continue to use them.
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I don't use threaded reading, I wasn't even aware.
"You are treating people like statistics. You don't care if 3 billion people die of cancer as long as it isn't you. You don't care about people who are suffering. These are people we are talking about, not just statistics, not just numbers on paper."
I'm just trying to be unbiased. I do care if 3 billion people die, thats a lot of people. but if 3 billion people HAVE to die, no-matter-fucking-what, then I'd rather have it be people that aren't sane enough to enjoy life, aren't conscious, or are a threat to the rest of the population. like AIDS victims. there is reasoning in every single category of candidates that I've mentioned.
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Triage
1. A process for sorting injured people into groups based on their need for or likely benefit from immediate medical treatment.
2. A system used to allocate a scarce commodity, such as food, only to those capable of deriving the greatest benefit from it.
3. A process in which things are ranked in terms of importance or priority.
If we are to continue our self-destructive paths, we will have to make tough choices as to who survives and who does not. Cell phones are nice but to use one very often in light of all these, in my opinion, not so surprising discoveries concerning how human health is influenced negatively by them, is not terribly bright. We must concentrate our limited resources on those who show they can make reasonable choices towards maintaining a healthy lifestyle versus those who heedlessly do as they wish to do, regardless of the negative impact.
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I'm having a terrible time trying to determine whether or not you are pro-traige or anti-triage. self-destructive? is that a bad thing as it seems you're implying, or are you advocating these "tough choices" ?
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I'm saying triage is eventually unavoidable and acceptable:
"We must concentrate our limited resources on those who show they can make reasonable choices towards maintaining a healthy lifestyle versus those who heedlessly do as they wish to do, regardless of the negative impact"
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Stats
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If 3 billion people are going to die of cancer, then it may as well be those who are already at the end of their road. If I get cancer, I'll spend the last 6 months or whatever sorting out my life. Getting laid, getting wasted, and doing all the things that many "normal" people never do, because, they "don't have time." I'll tell you how doesn't have time; the 12 year old girl who was abducted and is being raped and murdered at this moment. I don't know who she is and where she is, but the knowledge of it happening still makes me all the more worried for our survival.
So, cancer kills us. Big whoop. So do cars, fire, bears, and Muslim Fundimentalists.
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I'd start with seemingly intelligent people who feel they can logically cull the herd...
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Common sense
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keep using your cellphones
"The study also shows that the rise in risk is noticeable for tumors on the side of the head where the phone was said to be used," it added.
But don't let that spoil your criticism of the study. Just like cigarrette smokers complaining that smoking cant possibly cause cancer.
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Re: half the population
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Use a headset
Consider using email, SMS or instant messaging on your mobile device when convenient.
Finally, there's a company that promotes a product they say will reduce the risk of exposure from using a cell phone or cordless phone. I won't mention it here because I don't want to promote it directly.
Something to think about.
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I figure it this way...
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Re: Can you hear me now?
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My proposal is the best I've seen. I don't hear any suggestions coming through, only your trolling insults and stupidity.
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My reasoning is that we're all going to die eventually, why does it matter when you go? You just have to always be right with God, then you will have no worries.
The only thing I fear is the reaction of my death. The way my family will take it. I think I'll have to tell them not to grieve for me...
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born to follow, huh?
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