Latest Idea On Stopping Illegal Immigrants: Crowdsourcing
from the just-doing-my-job-on-the-border-patrol dept
Apparently Texas Governor Rick Perry is a Wired magazine subscriber, as his latest proposal for "securing" the state's border with Mexico relies on crowdsourcing. He wants to install webcams along the 1,200-mile border and broadcast them live online, so anybody can monitor them and call in suspicious activity to the authorities. It's another take on the neighborhood watch for the internet age, only instead of local busybodies sticking their noses into their neighbors' business, they can now generate their feelings of self-importance from thinking they're helping protect the nation's borders. It's hard to see the program being very effective, and it sounds like little more than election-year grandstanding (announced by Perry on the eve of the state's Republican convention), but it does point to the possibilities the internet can offer in overhauling some labor-intensive tasks. In any case, it's probably a good thing Texas has banned online hunting, lest any overzealous politicans get any more bright ideas.
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LET'S BE TRUTHFUL
Protecting the border? From what? Mexicans flying planes into buildings? I think they rather clean them than destroy them.
The world doesn't hate America, The world hates the Bush Family.
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We need to protect our borders against illegal aliens who DONT pay taxes and who TAKE our welfare money.
I feel that anyone who is illegaly in America should be promptly removed from the country. It's the right thing to do. If you steal, you go to jail, if you kill someone, you go to jail or die. If you break the law, then you need to be punished accordingly.
I don't have a problem with hispanic people, at all. I have a problem with people taking from our country and not giving anything back.
~Red
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I've never heard of illegal aliens collecting welfare.
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Where would you be today?
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Hey Red (post #9),
I guess everyone but Native Americans have to leave by your standards. Let's all leave because we had no right to come here in the first place.
And what's this about "taking from our country and not giving anything back"? They give plenty back... have you or do you know anyone who has had landscaping or construction work done? There's a good chance that the hard working individuals were Mexican, and there's a better chance that they were getting paid a lot less than any white guy doing the same job. If you ask me, that's giving back.
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I hate it when people always think that "we should leave the country" because we werent the first people to inhabit it. I would just like to say to you people to shut the fuck up! We conquered America. It's not like the Native Americans didn't fight back.
And illegal immigrants don't give much back to our country. Younger Americans who are legally in the country could take up some of the labor intensive jobs that don't require much skill. And there are plenty of other people who have the skill in America to do contruction and things like that. I see PLENTY of white people and people who are legally in this country living on the streets. I have NEVER seen a Mexican living on the streets.
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give the racism a rest. these illegals are an enormous financial burden to bear.
"Protecting the border? From what? Mexicans flying planes into buildings? I think they rather clean them than destroy them."
protecting the border from future hijackers. where do you think they came from? pick up a newspaper.
"The world doesn't hate America, The world hates the Bush Family."
put fahrenheit 9/11 on pause for a second and wake the fuck up. america is hated, but we aren't the only ones. not everything about the government is a conspiracy, or evil. however, they are allowing criminals to enter the country by the millions.
your comments are ignorant. it makes me wonder where they come from. are you an illegal immigrant? have you been fired from a job by a rich white company? or are you just a moron?
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Bush is the one who wants to open the borders further, not close them.
If you're going to blame someone, make sure they aren't on your side before doing.
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Wow! That is remarkably ignorant and - well, racist. There are a few rednecks who find any issue to promote their racist views, but this is not one of them. This has nothing to do with the color of someones skin. This is about an ILLEGAL activity. People of any culture/race/creed who ILLEGALY reside in the USofA should be punished. When you come into a country ILLEGALLY (or stay beyond a visas expiration) and then commit IDENTITY THEFT to get a job and then commit another crime by not paying taxes or improperly paying taxes - you do not belong in the Country - you belong in jail. The porous border is a blow off valve for Mexico's problems - as long as they can continue to come here they will never deal with the problems in their own country and it will continue to devolve into a more and more corrupt cesspool. (This of course is not limited to Mexico - it's just that a majority of illegals are from there.) We need to A.) Lock down the border [North and South] to illegals B.) Increase the ability for legal, law abiding citizens from other countries to come here LEGALLY. The people that are here ILLEGALY - if they are caught they should be punished according to the LAW for all of their crimes. If they want to be here they should go home and get in line with the LAW ABIDING people already doing it the right way. LEGAL immigrants are always welcome here.
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we pay taxes for those dirty pakis !!
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Better get off your 'hate whitey' pity-pony now because math doesn't lie and their minority status is coming.
Oh and the sooner you stop lumping people into behavior categories based on the color of their skin the sooner you'll become a productive member of society.
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Illegals should be driven into the sea!
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Comments like this is why people hate Americans. Where do you live son? And what color are you?
ANYONE who wants to come here should. Just do it legally. wait in line like the rest of the immigrants. Don't forget unless YOU are an American Indian YOU are an immigrant too. White, brown, green....whatever.
We as legal Americans pay taxes. They do not. Get it??
What exactly is a Big White Corporation? I would LOVE for you to name a few.
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Just as realistic...
Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.
Take the dirt from the moat and use it raise the levees in New Orleans.
Put those man eating Florida alligators in the moat.
^_^ First post!
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No Mexican = No cheap labor!
Dam, if we kick these bastards out of here who is going to do their work? If Americans do it will they demand more money?
I say we let well enough alone. Unless you have extra cash burning a hole in your pocket that is.
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Which is what many people will be saying 20 years
down the road when they find many illegals have
been milking the system, and there's nothing left
for the people who belong here!!!!
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Re: No Mexican = No cheap labor!
in a country with no plumbing. They are hard workers but americans or at least some are now lets see maybe we could make welfare recipients earn the checks our country gives them!!!!!
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Some of you people on the Internet make me sick, then again, those of you that make me sick are Americans and you fellow Americans are the exact reason were in the mess were in. It's not the President's fault. Who voted for him? It's not Mexican's fault they are allowed over the border and provided with low cost, tax-exempt lives in American. It's our fault because we are the ones that allow it and we are the ones that turn a cheek and say "it's not my job", "someone else will fix it", "I can't make a difference".
Pathetic we all are. We complain about so much yet do nothing.
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As for the Mexicans, most of them take jobs that even the poorest of Americans don't want. Although I agree that high-level corporate greed and corruption is way out of control, that was the case long before the current "outsourcing movement". We, as a nation, are going to have to accept the fact that the global economy has changed, and we have to change with it. My business is moving from providing services to businesses to providing servicing to businesses that provide services to bussinesses (i.e. outsourcers).
As for complaining, have you complained to your Congressional representatives, lately? That can be more effective than ranting on techdirt.
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Thanks for listening.
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Not That Bad Of An Idea
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Solution
One solution: Offer citizenship to any Mexicans who do a two year stint in the desert. That Haliburton food is probably still better than burritos eevry day!
Let the brown people fight each other while we act as war consultants in between golf rounds and Hardees cheesburgers.
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Shoot em
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...and armed Predator drones
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And the productivity?
Anyway I do not think this is a good idea, U.S. do not need to take care about the border, they need to take care about the White House decisions.
Kind Regards.
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Respect.
kavlex.
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Think of all the real estate development possibilities...definitely worth more than all that smelly oil...
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Americans being
You remember I spent five years working in Mexico.
I worked under a tourist Visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working Illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval
During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work.
To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals
(not copies) of my:
1. Birth certificate for Barbara and I.
2. Marriage certificate.
3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation.
5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year.
6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indication I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing."
7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican Citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on Earth" letter. It was fun to write.
All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.
Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours accompanied by a Mexican Attorney touring Mexican Government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location and we remember at least four locations we instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the Governments actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in ourhousehold goods that were held by US customs in Laredo, Texas. This meant we had rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid.
We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the Licensing agency to come to our Headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.
We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty legal size pages annually.
The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees.
Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.
It was a real adventure and If any of our Senators or Congressman went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their White house or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during mostprotests the Mexican Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas.
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Good Fences make Good Neighbors
One other point to consider. I hear much conversation about how illegal immigrants will do most jobs americans won't do and they are providing a cheap source of labor, thus keeping the cost of certain goods and services down. So, what happens when they become citizens? Suddenly, that same pool of labor is not so cheap anymore (employer taxes, benefits, minimum wage, etc..).
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IMMIGRATION LAWS
IF MAN WILL NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY, HE IS DESTINED TO RELIVE IT.
1. First, if you immigrate to this country, you must speak the native language.
2. Immigrants have to be a professional or an investor. Unskilled workers will not be allowed.
You can come if you invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily
minimum wage. If you don't now have that amount of money, you have to return home.
3. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections, and no
government business will be conducted in your native language.
You will not have the right to vote, no matter how long you live here, nor will you ever be allowed to
hold political office.
4. If you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled to any type of
welfare, food stamps, or any government benefits.
5. If you want to buy land, you will not be allowed to buy waterfront property, which is reserved for
citizens naturally born in this country. In fact, as a foreigner, you can be required to relinquish all
individual rights to property.
6. You don't have the right to protest when you come here. You're allowed no demonstrations,
you cannot wave a foreign flag, and there will be no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our leaders
or our policies, or you will be immediately sent home.
7. and if you come here illegally, you will go straight to jail.
NOTE: Every one of these laws are actually the current Mexican Immigration Laws."
All I ask is that the US adopt the exact same laws that the Mexican Govt. has....tit for tat!!
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You know, in Arizona I worked next to these people for a summer, and they are anything but lazy. As a matter of fact, their work-ethic put most of the work-ethics of my white, rich, "motivated" contemporary high schoolers to shame. The only real difference is that they have to earn all thier opportunities, we get them handed to us on platters and are praised for adding only the small amount of effort to do something with the opportunity.
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Solution
Why don't we allow them into the country to work and pay taxes just like everyone else. We may think we have some special rights because we were born here, but somewhere down the line your family was given the opportunity, so why not them?
It's not necessarily a racial issue either. That's what is visible, but if they were white we'd find something else to identify them and hate just as much. It's based on fear. Fear that they're getting something we're not. Fear that they'll hurt us.
If everyone worried about doing the right things themselves more than worrying about what everyone else is doing that might threaten them this would be a much better place.
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Mexican labor!
I tried to hire good strong Americans but...
They are spent by lunch (let's work through lunch and leave at 2pm) NO!
Hates to work a few Saturdays a month
Will jump to a another contractor for a quarter raise
The really good ones will learn my business and try to steal my accounts
The average legal Mexican labor will...
Works hard through 4pm or longer if required
Will gladly pick up all the overtime
Is the most loyal employee
Gladly accepts six month reviews on wages
Will work with you to better your business
This is the truth folks! I wish it wasn't!
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From the tone of your post, we can gather you are not shy to hire illegal immigrants just to be able to stack a little more money in your pocket and a little less in your workforce's pockets and a whole lot less in the American economy.
If my assumption is wrong, please disregard this post. This one goes out to the companies who hire illegal immigrants:
Thank you.
Thank you for screwing this country.
Thank you for wrecking our economy.
Thank you for being an infantile egomaniac.
I hope you get busted and you get fined so fast you won't be able to say "taco". I hope the fines are so high you have to close the books on your company because you can never pay them. I hope you have mortgaged your house to run start business so the government owns that nice piece of property now as well. I hope your family leaves you for the sorry loser @ssh0le you are. I hope when all is said and done you have nothing but the clothes on your back and a giant hole in your pride and a smashed ego.
In my opinion, people who hire illegal immigrants to work for them are more than half of the source of the problem... and they are the ones who should pay as well.
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They themselves are not eligible for welfare but their anchor babies are. I worked for the welfare dept for many years. How is it that two illegal immigrants can produce an American child...through law. This should change immediately. I think this child should be eligible for citizenship on it's 18th birthday, like the French does it.
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Trust me... I know... I'm stuck here in ghetto hell and all I see are a bunch of irresponsible, shit-po, crack heads. Man I'm glad I don't live in New Orleans, this place in SWGA is bad enough.
As for immigration... The Great Wall of China serves as a great example. If it moves, kill it. I think the camera idea is a great idea. But I have one addition. make them mounted sighting systems on 30MM chain guns with electric actuators. This way you can aim and fire on the insergants...er... I mean imigrants.
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If the companies that are hiring these workers are not punished then no amount of legislation, walls, or amnesty will help the root cause of the problem. If the illegal work trade was not several million jobs would even be discussing this? Hold the companies with business models requiring illegally low wages responsible and the problem will solve itself.
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Immigration and taxes
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Monitoring borders NOW!
Go to www.scadacam.net/index.php and try a site yourself. Sign up for a free demo and download the Multi Camera Viewer Email me with ScadaCam in the subject for more info!
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Monitoring borders NOW! SCADACAM
Go to www.scadacam.net/index.php and try a site yourself. Sign up for a free demo and download the Multi Camera Viewer Email me with ScadaCam in the subject for more info!
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Economics
But i strongly oppose illegal immigration.
One thing that amazes me is that some guys have a argument that we need to allow illegal immigrants to get cheap labor and cheap stuff.
Well there is news for you folks !
" cheap labor is a myth". if we kick them all out. The lobor cost will go up, but the money you give to a citizen to get the work done comes back into the sytem. he uses it to buy stuff...etc. so it actually helps the country by lifting the standard of living.
its similar to the difference between developed countries and third world countries. here evrything is more expensive than third world countries but we still have have better standard of living. Try to merge our country with a third world country and we will immediately have cheap labor but the country's standard of living will sink too.
Its like a pizza.
do you want to share it with hundred guys because there are ready to take a smaller pie or do you want to share among your friends even though they demand slightly bigger pie ? remember you are one among them who is sharing and getting the pie too ?
bottomline, the more the people the smaller the pie.
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Economics
But i strongly oppose illegal immigration.
One thing that amazes me is that some guys have a argument that we need to allow illegal immigrants to get cheap labor and cheap stuff.
Well there is news for you folks !
" cheap labor is a myth". if we kick them all out. The lobor cost will go up, but the money you give to a citizen to get the work done comes back into the sytem. he uses it to buy stuff...etc. so it actually helps the country by lifting the standard of living.
its similar to the difference between developed countries and third world countries. here evrything is more expensive than third world countries but we still have have better standard of living. Try to merge our country with a third world country and we will immediately have cheap labor but the country's standard of living will sink too.
Its like a pizza.
do you want to share it with hundred guys because there are ready to take a smaller pie or do you want to share among your friends even though they demand slightly bigger pie ? remember you are one among them who is sharing and getting the pie too ?
bottomline, the more the people the smaller the pie.
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Medical benefits
They get FREE medical, FREE dialysis, FREE housing, FREE food stamps. It makes me sick to hear of this, when we have so many that can't afford health care in this country, and then have someone else come in and take up the FREE care.
No, I'm not opposed to anyone of a different color than I am, I'm a very mixed heritage person myself. But I am against the LEECHES who sneak across the borders for FREE care. It sucks!
And to the bigot who posted the imigration laws...you sir are an idiot.
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What stinks...
Here's what I don't get...
1. Between the time I arrived on my brand new visa and the time I actually had my greencard in hand, I did not even think about going out to look for a job. Why? Get busted and you fly back to Europe. No thanks, I worked too hard to get this far. Illegal immigrants (regardless of where they came from) seem to be able to find jobs easier than US Citizens and legal residents can... Solution: Don't just fine the companies who get busted for hiring illegal immigrants, take away their right to own a business. Close their books. I don't know of any company owner who is willing to risk that. Ever. If they can't find jobs as illegal immigrants, they won't be as eager to come over here.
2. It took my wife and I a total of 3 years to get all the necessary paperwork and about $10,000 in attorney and INS (that was before 9/11) fees to be able to legally move to the US to come and live with my fiancee and mary her. In the immigration process and the truckload of paperwork that goes along with it, it is stated very clearly, in nice bold print, that immigrants do NOT have the right to get any wellfare, as long as you are not a US citizen. And I don't have a problem with that. I didn't come here to milk the system and get as much money from the state or government as I possibly can. But somehow, these illegal immigrants find ways to break these rules and walk away with American tax dollars... tax dollars us legal residents pay as well, the illegal ones don't.
3. How the hell do these people get away with helathcare??? Don't even get me started on that. I think it should the mandated that doctors and hospitals notify authoroties when they suspect one of their patients is an illegal immigrant. Yes, give them the basic care they need, as is so nicely posted on big signs in 2 languages (more on the languages later) in the urgent care sections of hospitals all over the company, but turn them over to authoroties after that. After all, when you're injured while breaking the law, you are most likely going to be cuffed to the hospital bed and are going to the police station and/or jail after that.
4. What is up with all the friggin' Spanish all over everywhere? Rule #1 when moving to a different country... learn to speak their language. Assimilate. Do NOT, under any f*#%$king circumstances, expect the country to adapt to you. (Can you tell the language thing kinda ticks me off???). Learn the language, teach it to your children... speak it in your homes. I think the bilingual signs all over everywhere should be taken down and replaced by only English ones (except where it's required by law to have them in multiple languages). If you cannot read them, you don't belong in this country. Heck, tourists know more of the English language than most of the illegal immigrants who live here.
Amnesty? Forget it. Definitely after seeing them protesting on the street. They want to become US citizens (not residents, citizens, even) and they go around carrying the flag of their own country and signs with their slogans in their own native tongue... um... what the heck is wrong with that picture???
In my opinion:
- Close the damn border
- More funding and forces for the border patrol and customs in the airports
- More stings and investigations into illegal stays and illegal employmnet
- Deportation of all detected illegals with a 10 year ban on re-entry (as it is with legal aliens... if I were to become stupid and commit a crime against the immigration laws, I'd be deported and I'd have a minimum of a 10 year ban on re-entry in the US)
- Stricter penalties for companies and people who assist/hire/harbor illegal immigrants
The situation with all the illegal immigrants is a thorn in the side of all legal immigrants... and the recent debates are only pissing us of even more. Go legal or go home.
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Another inconvenient truth
Actually, it's the tens of millions of high tech jobs that are being outsourced to non-Americans in other countries that is destroying our economy and national security. Those foriegners have much lower cost of living that legal or illegal immigrants. Those lost jobs are the important jobs for America, not lawn services and orange picking, but writing software, manufacturing new chemicals, and all the other engineering disciplines that America is losing.
The society that builds and maintains the information infrastructure will be the superpower of this millenium. Will it be China or India? It sure as hell won't be America.
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$20 Billion a year in remitance back home from Mexican's in the U.S.
That seems big enough for me to want to worry about.
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I blame ourselves for providing the incentives for them to come. I blame us for looking the other way so we can make a few extra bucks. I blame us for Regan's amnesty (that really helped didn't it). I blame us for not insisting that our laws be obeyed.
In the meantime, those of us who simply want our laws respected and enforced are branded "racist".
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Who's zooming who?
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Liberal weenies.
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Blogs bring out the worst in people
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That would be dumb.
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why should we grant instant resident status to Mexicans in the U.S. when they wouldn't even do the same for us?
i would love to move to Paris or London or Munich, but EU residency requirements prevent that. Why is it wrong for us to have the same residency requirements as the rest of the world?
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Mr. President, I'm headed to Mexico
I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.
I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.
So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. All government forms need to be printed in English.
4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and never donate to enforce any labor laws or tax laws.
13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P. '
Thank you so much for your kind help.
Sincerely,
Me
Source: NewsWithViews.com
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Illegal Immigration
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Great, but...
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Actually...
This would increase three-fold if they were to be legalized.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
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I never did like the idea of rewarding people for being poor, anyway. This'd also get these "lazy white asses" to work instead of waiting for their next welfare check or having children.
Mexicans stealing Americans' jobs? Since when were these jobs the property of Americans? Don't you think that the jobs should be the property of the people willing to work the most for the least amount of money?
But no, Americans deserve these jobs, and companies should be forced to hire Americans so that the greedy people demanding higher wages are rewarded, huh?
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A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON
In contrast to the U.S. where Europeans just killed the indigenous people in Latin America ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from Spain and other countries raped and married the indigenous women thereby creating a MIXED RACE.
MEXICANS ARE A MIXED RACE. They are descendants of not only the invading spaniards but also indigenous women. THEY ARE DESCENDANTS FROM A TIME WHERE THERE WAS NO BORDERS. Props to any English Speaking American that can trace their ancestry to this country before its discovery.
ENGLAND DID NOT RESPECT BORDERS
IRELAND DID NOT RESPECT BORDERS
FRANCE DID NOT RESPECT BORDERS
SPAIN DID NOT RESPECT BORDERS
But yeah those mother fuckers who have been here for a millenia, who are THEY to cross a river? Right??
Fucking hippocrites deal with it.
BTW 50% of all illegal immigrants who come here come on VISAS good luck deporting them....if you can find them that is!!
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Good for you for bringing this up. Most Americans are unaware that if the immigration reform bill passes, many white people will have to leave the U.S.
Thanks,
Mary
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The Border
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mexican invasion
The problem to me is the rich people in this country want to
get richer good old greed ! What some people say i as an
American won"t do gets under my skin, I've done everything from detasselling corn to cottonseed mill work, to what i now do for a business. I enjoy hard work but feel I should be paid fairly and I see many Americans that feel the same.
Any support for aleins by government or for a better
word special interest groups, should be considered an act of treason ! This to me is a ploy by wealthy to keep a man from earning a fair living by reducing him to mexican standard of existing
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