Beat China's 'Great Firewall' By Ignoring It
from the just-like-that dept
A lot has been made about the so-called "Great Firewall of China" and how the country actually manages to restrict content on such an enormous level. Now a new paper is claiming that it's improper to think of it as a big wall surrounding the perimeter, and that the real censorship system is far less robust. Instead of actually blocking illicit packets from entering the country, China has set up devices that deliver reset requests to both ends of the connection. According the researchers, if people's computers were just told to ignore these requests, the system would be impotent to block the material. For China to set up a new system in response, based on stronger restrictions on the perimeter, might actually be a difficult technical challenge. So if this entry or the paper itself makes its way past the firewall, they'll learn, like everyone else, that online filters don't work. Update: Ed Felten is writing on this subject as well, and noting that as the system works it could violate US computer fraud law by basically launching a denial of service attack on both ends of the connection. Of course, it's not clear how that matters directly, since China breaking a US law doesn't matter much. However, it could raise additional questions about the US companies who supply the hardware and software for the firewall.
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Reminds me of college....
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Loser
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Re:
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Machine that goes ping
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What about the servers?
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www.piratesandemperors.com
(mirrored at YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/v/xA0pPqXJoAI)
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The Great Firewall is socially engineered
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You could almost think..
The fact still remains, putting a Firewall up anywhere is just like putting up a wall in real life, people will find their own ways around it, you will then spend millions to block that one spot, and they'll just get around another one. Just a waste of money IMO.
China can't stay communist forever, people wille ventually want to know what's going on around the world.
That's my two cents.
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Re: Loser
Hey don't putt down us comuneitie colledge poeple!
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Re: The Great Firewall is socially engineered
Everyone else should mind their business, IMO.
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Kill the Chinese with Love . . . and Bombs.
But it's impossible to stop fear. Remember you need to fear fear, thus increasing fear exponentially. I say we just kill off the Chinese people and eat them. It's much simplier and it solves the world hunger problem.
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Re: Re: The Great Firewall is socially engineered
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a billion
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Re: Re: Re: The Great Firewall is socially enginee
I agree that 'The Great Firewall' is more of a bluff than an actual bet. Intimidation is largely sufficient in most cases to subjugate the confuscian mind.
If the hotel you stayed in is in any way foreign-owned (Radisson, Hilton, Sheraton, Ramada, Holliday Inn) then it is likely that the owners are doing actual domain/IP filtering out of that very fear -- similar to Google's recent announcement of willingly censoring content as ordered by the Chinese Government. And guess who then bears the cost of this filtering? Not the Chinese government... hehehe
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Inoring RST
Besides, that technology is patented in the US (at least for private networks)
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personal experiences with chinese firewall.
earlier this year, i stayed with relatives there and through their DSL connection, had about 256 kbps consistently. and was able to access all the english language news sites except those in ny that were focused on chinese politics. i have no experience on the chinese language sites that may be the focus of their censorship.
i will say that i stopped using google when i was there. www.google.com was automatically re-directed to www.google.com.cn or something of that sort, where as the lesser known search engines were not redirected from what i recall.
when i really needed to access google, i connected to my home pc which i had intentionally left on, so that i could use its US IP address. unexpectedly, I found that this greatly reduced the download times for applications i needed to download from the web, my point2point connection to home was faster than to the us commercial sites.
call me an anonymous coward, but i am sure the PLA and NSA can figure out who i am from their logs. ... just kidding. :)
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Re: personal experiences with chinese firewall.
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Re: The Great Firewall is socially engineered
Seriously though when you atry to access a site that is restricted your computer goes shows up to 18% on the access window then stops and tells you the website is unavailable. Ain't no social engineering there just plain engineering. It is fustrating at times but it does block a lot of dubious and unhealthy sites as well
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Try Freedur, you never seen anything like it
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@Jeff
Any other solutions here? Hotspotshield is down and free gate as well. Plus Chinas Censorship is more serious than ever since google US is gone.
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China
500 articles on how weasy it is to do and not one tell you how to do it.
Joe
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