Hollywood Claims US Has Eliminated Movie Piracy?
from the say-what? dept
By now, it should be clear that some folks in the entertainment industry will say just about anything to try to make whatever point they're trying to make today, without bothering to see if it actually makes any sense. Two weeks ago, we wrote about how the movie industry was kicking off a big and pointless campaign in Canada to have the practice of videotaping a movie in the theater with a camcorder made into a criminal, rather than civil offense. As we noted at the time, the whole thing was part of a PR campaign for a new law -- and it was silly since camcorder-based counterfeiting barely is a blip compared to actual copies of movies leaked from within the studios and put online. Yet, that won't stop the industry from saying whatever the hell they want. Mikester writes in to point out yet another article in the PR campaign which goes on and on about all the camcorder piracy coming out of Canada. It's almost identical to the article from two weeks ago and to articles from last week as well. Like all of the earlier articles, it talks about piracy without noting that camcorder copies really aren't the big issue these days. Instead, it just accepts the claims from the Hollywood representatives. But the most outrageous claim comes towards the end of the article, where the CEO of Cineplex Entertainment explains why they need this new law, claiming that there are similar laws in most US states and: "It pretty well eliminated piracy in the US." Really? Huh. So, next time we hear about the MPAA complaining about "piracy" in the US, we're going to point to this statement to remind them that they seem to believe it's already been solved.
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It's all about perceptions
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Re: It's all about perceptions
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The dichotomy
Damn, I should have made a blog post out of this (:
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Sue customers without any concrete evidence
Utilize copy protection and DRM to prevent customers from using content as they wish
Extend the life of copyright well beyond the life of the original creator
Claim that fair use is a bad thing or that it does not exist
Convert a civil offence into a criminal offence and use the police to enforce civil offences
Reduce artists royalties
Demand a percentage of all monies earned by artists
Oddly enough there is nothing about adding value, improving the experience, offering choice or giving the consumer what they want (not what the studios want). When you start dismissing the needs and wants of your consumers, you headed towards extinction.
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Desperate times.....
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Yay MPAA AND RIAA!
What is the point of the "theater experience" anyway? You bend over so they can rape you when you buy the ticket, you bend over again if you want a cold soda and some popcorn or some other snacks, and then you end up in a dirty theater where the the idiot kids are playing with their cell phones or not shutting up, and your ears are bleeding because the volume is jacked up way too high..
I downloaded music for a long time, and if I like the song, I buy the album and hope that there are a few more good songs on it... but even though I downloaded it off the interwebs in a promotional sort of way, and even though I bought the album, and more often than not, the rest of the album sucks... I'm somehow an evildoer. If I would have listened to the radio I never would have heard the song in the first place because the radio plays what they want you to hear.
I don't want to go off on a rant here, but I think the real problem is the underlying problem with the united states in general. Despite all our anger over how we are treated by these industries (for example), we don't do anything about it. We complain to people if they will listen, but we don't do anything about it. We complain and complain and complain. But not enough of us take a stand. On this soap box, i'm complaining... but am I going to do anything about the problems?? probably not..... who would stand up with me? Nobody. We're too busy in our own lives to stop what we're doing and fight for things we believe in. Nothing is going to change because we're too lazy.
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But as you say, people really don't care about the initial cammed copy. It's the later cams (TS) that are usually worthwhile and the dvdrips (which come earlier and earlier) that most people hang on for.
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I would
I am young and still have my passion for life and freedom.
By young I mean low twenties.
I am tired of this government abusing us and ignoring us (Republican'ts, Demorats, all of them).
I am tired of being made out to be a criminal.
I am slightly different in the music respect, I get most of my new music from my friends who buy it from various places.
I am more of a movie guy, I download movies after they are out on DVD (prefer the DVD Rip quality). If I like it, I go out and buy it, and give it a good review. If the movie sucks, it gets deleted and a bad review on my clan site.
That is how things are. I just really got tired of paying for crap a long time ago, and I do not trust all of the big critics. So I screen them myself.
If I was not able to download movies to preview in this manner, I would buy far far less movies, as I would only buy the movies that I liked that I saw that my friends bought.
As it is now, they also buy more movies because they see what I have and like it and buy their own.
I am giving them far more business through my network than if I didn't download.
They are and always will be too stupid to realize this.
So, I would stand with you.
We should make a movement webpage.
Not a page for others to go to complain about how things are, I am sure there are enough of those already.
We need a site where all of us who truly want to change things can go, to sign up, and to stand up, and fight.
Heck, if we did well enough and removed the RIAA and MPAA, I am sure the price of products would drop because there are a lot of losers in those companies sucking up funds and revenues.
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Re: I would
One of the things we can do without going out is to call, email, and write the politicians that run our states and represent our states in Washington. And not just do it once, but pester them, it has to be done in a respectful way, not just trash talking them, because that doesn't get anything done.. These are our elected officials, they were voted in (for the most part) who represent us in this representative republic (for those of us who live in the US, a representative republic is not a democracy. no matter how much the word democracy is thrown around...) (if you live in the US). If they get enough badgering about this, they might visit this issue because a big enough voter base is complaining.
It's also more than a "go into the street and protest on a specified day", because after the protest, people just back down and wait. The Million Man March or the Million Mom March or what have you are fine. After it's done, they go home. What if A Down with the MPAA and RIAA trash Million PO'd Person march happened, but instead of going home, we stayed? What if we said we will not go away until this is fixed? What if we forced them to change it?
Sure, there's flaws in the logic i'm describing here, but there's too many of us that just sit and do nothing. Not just on this, but on almost every issue that affects us. We sit and we take it, and we think that it sucks and it should change. But we do nothing about it. The reason our government is in the pockets of lobbyists and irresponsible media groups like the MPAA and RIAA is that there is a lack of action by the very people the elected officials represent.
G.K. Chesterton once wrote "This is the age in which thin and theoretic minorities can cover and conquer unconscious and untheoretic majorities." - ILN, 12/20/19
We need to wake up and show them... this rant is out of steam now... and i'm still sitting at my computer, not doing anything...
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Roland this is for you
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Forget Hollywood
It's all about producing the exact opposite of entertainment.
I've stopped going to Hollywood movies or even watching Hollywood-produced tv shows. I encourage everyone else to do so as well. Forget this dull, mindless trash. There are better alternatives out there.
Starve Hollywood to death.
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business plan
Create a Good Movie.
Good Marketing makes good attendance.
Charge a fair price. Make a fair profit.
After a run on the movie if you had good marketing you will sell DVD etc....
Forget all about the coping crap....
Move on to the next movie.
Sound resonable ?
cb
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Reading
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good game...
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Context
'Course, eliminating the context makes it much more "newsworthy".
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This debate misses our common ground
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Context
Reads well when you take it out of context that way, doesn't it? Quite newsworthy. Of course, taken in context it's rather obvious that the quote actually means something like, "It pretty well eliminated that type of piracy in the US."
Which is an entirely different statement, and one that probably deserves debate on it's own merits.
The difference between the former and the later is sensationalism vs. journalism. Your bias is pretty obvious, but you usually don't make up news or take things out of context just for the sake of a rant...
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Re: Context
Reads well when you take it out of context that way, doesn't it? Quite newsworthy. Of course, taken in context it's rather obvious that the quote actually means something like, "It pretty well eliminated that type of piracy in the US."
I wrote exactly what was in the article. I didn't change his words. I didn't pull that sentence out of a paragraph that says what you claimed.
He specifically said it. And it's bogus, no matter what the context. The industry has a long history of saying things that are completely wrong. I'm not sure why you think there's anything wrong with highlighting that. It's not "sensationalism." It's calling them on a bogus statement.
I'm sorry if you disagree, but we stand by the post.
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Context
Reads well when you take it out of context that way, doesn't it? Quite newsworthy. Of course, taken in context it's rather obvious that the quote actually means something like, "It pretty well eliminated that type of piracy in the US."
Which is an entirely different statement, and one that probably deserves debate on it's own merits.
The difference between the former and the later is sensationalism vs. journalism. Your bias is pretty obvious, but you usually don't make up news or take things out of context just for the sake of a rant...
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Context
Reads well when you take it out of context that way, doesn't it? Quite newsworthy. Of course, taken in context it's rather obvious that the quote actually means something like, "It pretty well eliminated that type of piracy in the US."
Which is an entirely different statement, and one that probably deserves debate on it's own merits.
The difference between the former and the later is sensationalism vs. journalism. Your bias is pretty obvious, but you usually don't make up news or take things out of context just for the sake of a rant...
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Context
Reads well when you take it out of context that way, doesn't it? Quite newsworthy. Of course, taken in context it's rather obvious that the quote actually means something like, "It pretty well eliminated that type of piracy in the US."
Which is an entirely different statement, and one that probably deserves debate on it's own merits.
The difference between the former and the later is sensationalism vs. journalism. Your bias is pretty obvious, but you usually don't make up news or take things out of context just for the sake of a rant...
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Dups
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Re: Dups
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cam's?
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