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Mens rea
But then, what kind of editorials do we expect from people with no training in the law?
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If you are a prosecutor you hit them with every bullshit charge so that you can then offer something in a plea bargin instead of wasting your time in court. This is why drug busts often end up with tax evasion as a charge since they were breaking those rules as well. It would be poor work on the states part not to do this.
I like your tech posts but your a bit out of your depth on this one.
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I disagree strongly. Tossing around BS charges is poor work. Failure to do so is not. "Wasting your time" is not what court is about, it's about reaching a verdict. Hopefully an accurate one. Adding charges that make no sense are what wastes the court's time. The attitude that "we'll just pile on the bogus charges and see what he'll agree to in a plea bargin" is one of the reasons people don't care when lawyers die (and, in fact, sometimes cheer). We need to scrap our "legal system" and strive for a "justice system".
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Any object is potentially a criminal tool, but what matters is the intent with which it was used.
But then, what kind of editorials do we expect from people with no training in the law?"
Obviously dorpus is not trained in law or even common sense. Maybe trained in trolling thats about it
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Malicious hardware? Or software?
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What they really need to look at
They should look beyond the kid. They need to fire who ever was in charge of security and look at how to prevent futures attempts to compromise the schools network. As far as I'm concerned if there was no (or even a decent) attempt to try and protect sensitive data, then you're just as much to blame as the kid.
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They should look beyond the kid. They need to fire who ever was in charge of security [...]
Oh, come off it. Have you ever worked for a school? In fact, have you ever worked in an office environment anywhere?
The security model is only as good as its weakest link. If the weakest link is a teacher with his/her password on a post-it on the monitor, it kinda doesn't matter what sort of whiz-bang security you have in place, does it?
I'm not saying this is what happened, I'm not there so I can't know, but I'm willing to put a hundred bucks on this being closer to the truth than that the kid is some sort of L337 Hax0r.
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Of course if its a manager or high level person that left their info out its LESS the fault of the admin. But ultimately if your system is cracked its partially your fault regardless. Thats something i learned AFTER being in the field.
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So, all I'm saying is don't make it so easy...what if you didn't catch the kid?
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Talk about no personal responsibility.
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Shoes are a criminal tool because they are used by criminals while committing the crime, a crime its unlikely they would commit without shoes on! =O
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Regarding the 'technique' of burying the accused under as many charges as possible to try and stop the case going to court; as with so many aspects of the us legal system ( though increasingly ours in the uk too), I am deeply bothered that such behaviour is considered reasonable. As here, the media picks up on the scariest and most unrealistic charges, and it all feeds back into the Fear Of Doing Anything our governments, media and law systems foster. ho hum. back to another day under surveillance camera.
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Ummm. Criminal Tools.
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in 3..2..
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holy crap
Examples: break into a house with a crowbar at night while carrying a flashlight. The crowbar is a criminal tool at that point, but the flashlight isn't (neither are your shoes, pants, or the bag you carrry stuff out in).
If the kid had used some sort of software that was on his ipod that broke through a security feature, then MAYBE that would qualify as a criminal tool. But all he did was use it as a receptacle for his loot (just like the bag in the break-in example).
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What about the teachers who taught him how to use a computer!
So if I kill a person with a law book, it's a criminal tool - and that wouldn't be too hard, considering how overly big they are getting...
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Throw the book at him, fine. He deserves it. But don't throw out common sense while you're throwing stuff. You'll set some very bad examples by doing so.
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Gloves
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I don't know...
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So...
2.cameras (voyeourism)
3.computers
4.credit cards (if the locks on the doors are that weak)
5.wire coat hangers (if the locks on the car doors are weak)
6.trech coats (flashers)
These are all criminal tools?
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When will Personal Responsibility ever come back as a staple of our upbringing? The US will be a society of weenies in the next 5 years. I totally believe India, China, Japan will eclipse all of us.
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Agreed!
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don't know don't care
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haha
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