Sony DRM Making DVDs Not Work In Many DVD Players?
from the lessons-not-learned dept
Over the weekend, Slashdot pointed to various reports suggesting that the new DRM used on certain Sony DVDs means those DVDs no longer play on certain DVD players. If true (and there appears to be many people who have experienced the problem) it would suggest that Sony still hasn't quite figured out from previous experience that DRM is a huge market killer for them. It is taking away value from their products while doing absolutely nothing to add value to their product. This should be obvious to just about anyone -- but it appears that it still hasn't permeated the brains of entertainment industry execs. It would be nice if a Sony exec (from any branch of the company) could explain how DRM benefits customers, rather than pisses them off. Update: It appears that Sony has now said it's fixing the problem with the DRM it's using.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Degrees only prove that you can study, take and pass tests. Learning how to operate a business takes street savvy, not a wallfull of degrees.
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the funny part..
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don't know about sony...
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Sony Cripples dvd with drm
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And aren't the Spiderman movies done by Sony Pictures?
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done this once or twice with audio cds that don't like newer players, tro try and stop computers playing them i suppose.
ps2 is the worst for not playing dvds.. the solution? stick em in the laptop and rip em so i can watch the things.
now if a cd lacks the 'compact disc digital audio' logo i don't buy, ditto anything that looks like it will cause trouble, avoid and find it elsewhere.
at some point thios rubbish will go away, give it a few more years, maybe when bluray & hd-dvd are cracked completly and players are availible for next tonothing that play the cracked discs they will give up. not holding y breath
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UK version ok?
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UK version OK?
..which may be because the rootkit has already installed itself :-)
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Sony Who
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Best salesman, ever
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Particularly for non-interactive media. If I can see a movie, I can copy it. If I can hear a song, I can copy it. There is no way to prevent the copying of these things without also preventing their intended use.
Hell the way people are posting here they have to copy it then listen/watch it. Funny that people have to buy media, copy it, and then watch it.
And about that whole "intended use" thing. Sony's solution about that seems to be to redfine "intended use".
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SONY is a four letter word.
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You know what I'd would do, if I bought a DVD that wouldn't play on my DVD player? Well - since I bought the movie... I'd go find it on Torret DL the damn thing and burn it to a DVD. Toss the original on the shelf and watch the movie.
Now... on the next purchase, I might start to wonder if it's really worth buying it.
Sony's trying to sell products that are broken~~
To Customers that are paying CASH
The ripped movie's already on the web, I'm sure.
So who are they hurting?
The customer who pays - just like with their audio CD's installing rootkits.
It took me 2 hours of company time to clean that up off a user's PC. Our business thanks Sony for the time they have waisted. Had the user just been playing MP3's and not a purchased CD, that would have never happened.
No wonder people just want to download crap, for years and years they have gouged us on price, now they are twisting the knife because they are losing grip.
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It's been 5 years (other than the media - Movie Music etc.) I have given up on Sony...now I'm done with Movies...what a complete waste of money all the way around. How this friggin company is still afloat is beyond me. Lets all hope that Blu-Ray finishes them off
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Sony DRM
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In other news...
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How to Copy on Windows PCs...
Basically, here's the recipe:
* TURN OFF AUTORUN ON YOUR DVD DRIVE!
* Download the latest copy of RPC1 firmware from rpc1.org for your drive if you're not utterly paranoid about your warranty and want a faster rip with region locking disabled on your drive
* One copy of DVD Decrypter, v3.5.4.0, installed; then
* One copy of DVD Shrink, v3.2.0.15, installed; then
* One copy of RipIt4Me, v1.7.1.0, installed
(for all the above programs, you may have to search on Google for their locations)
then...
* Run RipIt4Me
* Configure RipIt4Me to find both DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink in your local install directories
* Click on "1-Click Mode"
* Select whether you want whole DVD, Movie + title, Movie only, etc.
* Leave all other settings alone and click "Next >>"
* Wait for the dialog to get to DVD Shrink to come up, then use DVD Shrink as usual
Now you can copy all of this DRM-laden crap. Be warned - these DRM-laden POSes take a lot longer than standard DVDs.
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If I'm buying the right to watch a DVD, then I should be able to watch it.
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Sony & DRM
Wake-up SONY and embrace the 21st century before you disappear like the dinosaur!
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And that's why...
Just a few posts up are explicit instructions on how to rip DVDs with the newest DRM, so the ONLY people suffering are the paying customers.
Yes, you should be able to use it. When the DVD standards were released all DVDs were meant to be playable under those standards. These are the types of situations that class action lawsuits are meant for. In this case, the class would be anyone who bought a DVD under good faith that it would work with any DVD playing device without extra input or cost.
Sony is only slipping the noose tight before the chair is kicked out from under them, and I can't wait for the ripple effect to cause a paradigm shift in the entertainment industry.
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Copy Protection is Stupid.
With the right software I can rip just about any DVD out there. I have backed up every one of my kids DVDs and no longer worry about the original DVD becoming an expensive coaster or the movie skipping/pausing. I exclude the previews and the wonderful Interpol/FBI and copyright warnings (that's an excellent way to treat the paying customer) - the movie starts up right away.
I then convert them via AutoGK and now have 5 or more movies on a single DVD, eliminating the need to switch DVDs in my kid's portable players and making long trips in the car a wonderful experience. However, the MPAA and the media companies would rather treat me as a criminal for making copies of the DVD I paid for. Guess I'll be making some trips to the local library.
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DRM :(
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Sony DVD won't play on my DVD player
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DRM fix & complicated (for some)
First let me say, If you have a store bought SONY product (DVD) in this case, DO NOT, REPEAT!!! DO NOT put that DVD and allow it to play in your System (Meaning your PC). Once on your system, the DRM embedds itself.
Here's how I get around it (Keep in mind) I know this solution may not apply to everyone partly because it involves a combination of things but it may spark some interest or another idea other then mine.
I have a SONY PCV-RZ24G system that allows both input for S-Video and, Standard RCA jacks to be brought in from a VCR or, DVD. (I don't like "ripping software" myself so what I do is NASTY yet, clever but, LEGAL!")
Having some "spare" Hardware like 2 VCR's, and an Extra DVD player, I put in my DVD (any) in my "stand alone" DVD player, Jack that over to my VCR (ANT-IN) of VCR#1, Take a Standard "Rabbit Ears" antenna and place that to my ANT-OUT, Using a SECOND VCR and set to "AIR" I use another Set of Rabbit Ears on VCR#2 placed in that one's "ANT-IN". I tune VCR2 to Pick up the now "broadcasting" from VCR#1 (or the DVD movie), I then place RCA Jacks from VCR #2 over to my PC and can record incoming Video as a MPEG Movie. I then Burn that MPEG to a DVD.
Laugh if you want but, it works. The SONY DVD never hits my PC and, the Broadcasting part is just "RF" thus, no DRM
Of course, I don't expect my idea to draw any great applause but, it does work and while it sounds complicated its really not. Your just going from the DVD to VC1 over the "air" to VCR2 then to your PC. Hey I didn't invent it, I only discovered a flaw with the DRM and took advantage of some "RF" Properties
Mike
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DRM fix Part2
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Download it. Use it.
Love it.
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Sony DVD that doesn't work on my player.
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My Sony bought DVD's still won't work in my PC
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