Legal Gymnastics: It's Okay To Circumvent DRM In Europe If It's Circumventable
from the follow? dept
This one is going to throw the entertainment industry lawyers for a loop. Anti-circumvention clauses are some of the most controversial parts of digital copyright laws. Those rules take away certain fair use rights and often criminalize perfectly reasonable things (such as software). However, the anti-circumvention rules in Europe may just have become a lot weaker due to a fascinating interpretation of the EU directive on the topic. Boing Boing points us to the ruling that says that circumventing certain types of DRM is ok if the DRM is "ineffective." It's based on a strict reading of the law, which says that the law only protects "effective" DRM. So, as long as you can prove the DRM is ineffective, it's okay to circumvent it. Of course, how do you prove that DRM is no longer effective? Perhaps by circumventing it. So, basically, you can't try to circumvent DRM (that's illegal!), but if you do, you've proven it to be ineffective, and therefore, you can circumvent it. Of course, the details in this case involve DVD DRM, which was circumvented in Norway -- which is not a part of the EU. So, perhaps the DRM first needs to be circumvented outside the EU before it becomes circumventable in the EU. In the meantime, this was a low level court ruling that will almost definitely be appealed. I'm sure the entertainment industry lawyers will point out that this effectively makes the anti-circumvention directive meaningless as their defense against the ruling, and that might just work. In the meantime, enjoy the circular logic.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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What is is that point when it's met critical mass to be considered "ineffective"?
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Not quite as simple
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Another interpretation
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Good Measure
On a separate point I do like that argument, more circular logic please!
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Using is not Breaking
The DRM companies are arguing the 'instance' of the DRM counts individually, i.e. every time you rip your DVDs to your laptop you are breaking DRM. But that's rubbish.
The court has decided this is not true, the guy who broke CSS did the break, everyone else is just *using* the ripper.
Then again why should bad lock makers be able to get legal protection for their bad locks? Why is this stupid law in anyway. (Well apart from it was slotted into a treaty after being rejected both by the US and EU governments).
It's legal and moral to rip DVDs to your media centre PC. It's legal to publish information on locks:
http://home.howstuffworks.com/lock.htm
So why should there be this exception, where bad lock makers get legal protection for their bad locks? Why does DRM get special protection? If it works it doesn't need it, if it doesn't work, pretending it does doesn't change the reality!
Physical locks protecting *Real* Property have to be *really* secure, not pretend secure.
If 'IP' really is property as lobbyists like to pretend, then how can they pretend the locks don't need to be secure!
Why can we study any area of technology, except how some crap little companies crappy DRM works.
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the DMCA has the same type of clause..
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Anyway, doesn't that by definition make all types of DRM circumventable?
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Re: Another interpretation
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Re: Another interpretation
Now from a practical perspective, how would anyone ever be proved to be the first person to break some DRM? It could well have been broken many times before that just weren't well publicized.
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Re: the DMCA has the same type of clause..
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Suicide crackers?
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Re: Good Measure
I think this post, interestingly, proves one of the arguments against DRM: it only keeps honest people from doing what they could or should be able to do in the first place; it does nothing to keep out the determined. Only the "average-jo" suffers...
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Re: Suicide crackers?
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Simple logic, really
Actually, it makes perfect sense. If the FUV* technology were effective, it wouldn't need legal sanction to enforce it.
So the laws you would be breaking by circumventing it would actually be laws of physics. Or information theory. Or something.
*FUV = Fair Use Violation. "DRM" is so last century, isn't it.
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Re: #19-- by the Coward
What's cool is that he created something of a community where we can collaborate share, add, and discuss. Everyone's equal. Spill it or else your just as worthless as hiding behind the Anon Coward name.
Whats your beef.. Let's discuss.. Or go away.
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An example
A company sells a special camcorder with a box-shaped lens. You place it right up against your monitor and start the DVD. The camcorder would then record the movie content as it plays and store it in a DRM free digital format. Perhaps the captured video image could be of high quality if it could capture at a high enough frame rate at a high enough resolution, and could then be distributed. But selling of such a device would be considered illegal under this law, because the DRM is still intact and effective.
However, if a group creates an encryption scheme and they claim that the encryption can't be broken, but is then defeated within a couple of months by a teenager, then your encyption scheme is too weak to be considered effective.
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D.R.M. (Doesn't Really Matter!)
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Don't not overstretch this...
An interesting aspect of the decision was that none of the copyright organizations took any part in it. This was a criminal trial, started by the defendants themselves when they turned themselves in for violating the copyright law.
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And don't use no double negatives either!
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Site problems?
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Re: Site problems? ...Blither
There is no excuse or explanation necessary.
Patience, my boy. You will be addressed directly, assuming you have something Worthwhile to communicate....
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This applies to USA too
The interpretation makes sense.
USING AN EXISTING CIRCUMVENTION IS NOT THE SAME AS MAKING THE CIRCUMVENTION!
So this should be applied to the USA too, not just Europe. A sensible interpretation applies wherever common sense prevails.
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