Who Cares How Many Discs Counterfeit Operation Could Have Made?
from the why-focus-on-that? dept
Information Week is reporting on two men who were sentenced to jail for what is being called the "largest CD and DVD pirating scheme to be prosecuted in the United States." From the evidence, it certainly sounds like these guys were counterfeiting all sorts of music, movies and software, so there's nothing wrong with them being caught, found guilty and punished. What I do find interesting, however, is how the various industry associations have been spinning this story (and how the press is accepting it without question). Since these guys were arrested, the story has been how they had equipment that could have made 300 million pirated CDs and DVDs. Note the "could have" part. Because, in reality, authorities only seized a bit less than half a million. It's still significant, but it's less than 0.2% (not 2%, but 0.2%) of what's going in the headlines. In theory, any DVD/CD burner could produce millions of counterfeit discs -- but that's not news. Why is it news in this case?Of course, this is par for the course for the industry. Remember when the RIAA wanted to count high speed CD burners as multiple burners in trying to boost the size of a bust it made? Or when the MPAA claimed they seized $30 million worth of DVDs when in turned out to only be about $10,000? It seems they like to blow these things out of proportion with big, totally unsubstantiated numbers. Of course, that lets them make the laughable claim that each of these busts is "a significant blow" against piracy when nothing can be further from the truth. In fact, as we've seen, all these CD/DVD counterfeiting shops are facing a much more "significant blow" from the competition from free downloads. Yet, of course, the Information Week piece carries a quote saying that "It cannot be understated how significant it has been." Actually, I'd say it's been significantly overstated.
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Counterfeit goods is a cottage industry
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/01/led_zep_piracy_conviction/comments/
So fake goods is a cottage industry, and if they have to inflate the claim to make the story worthwhile then it means they are aware that the numbers on their own don't impress.
Mind you, if there are 3 of them, and they ship 50 packages a day each. Thats 3*50*365 = 54000 items shipped a year, which is quite a big operation.
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As high as 40x? WOW, where can I get one of those beasts from?
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Yeah right...
Since these guys were arrested, the story has been how they had equipment that could have made 300 million pirated CDs and DVDs. Note the "could have" part. Because, in reality, authorities only seized a bit less than half a million.
Just like those old ladies, children, computer illiterate, and people who don't even own PCs could have downloaded the music the brought those "settlement" down on them like a ton of bricks.
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If newspapers want respect and increasing
Sensationalism was ok in the early age of TV News.
Serious news report media (TV, internet, paper, radio) have to be serious about their news facts. Too many screw-ups and people stop taking you seriously, "cry wolf!".
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The "free downloads" is just another source for their product, not competition.
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or if i get a speeding ticket, can i get another ticket for a claiming i could have "had a higher rate of speed" than what i was originally ticked at?
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Re: dead DVD drives
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Recording Industry it's own worst enemy
Besides, who is buying these bootlegs? It's probably people who don't go out to the movies and they're too cheap to buy retail, so the industry isn't losing any money. It just becomes a revenge issue where the bootleggers are making money from a niche the industry isn't serving.
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Going to the park because you "could be" looking for a child to abduct.
Buying someone a drink at a club becuase you "could be" trying to slip a drug in it.
Standing behind someone at an ATM becuase you "could be" trying to mug him/her.
Damn at least the cops in Minority Report actually looked into the future to see who really did commit the crime instead of guessing like these guys.
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He made your point for you. If I understate something I play down the significance of it.
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No, but you should be! On charges of destruction of the planet and the intent to kill another animal!
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Exaggerating? I don't think so. "In theory" a DVD/CD burner COULD produce millions of discs. I think perhaps you are exaggerating: "My burners seem to quit after about 6 months and that is with minimal usage". I have only had one burner failure (within the first 30 days) out of 5 burners. To this day, I still own four of them and they are going strong.
"I can't imagine one lasting over a week with constant 24/7 use"
Your lack of imagination should not deter you from actually trying: substantiate your claim.
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Re: Recording Industry it's own worst enemy
bootleg disks sell in the ghetto... where people may be able to afford a game console, but not a computer, and probably not high speed internet access.
what's funny is that in the future, as downloads overtake everything, these are going to be the people that continue to buy retail CDs and DVDs since the world will have moved on to ipods and media center PC's.
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bootleg disks sell in the ghetto... where people may be able to afford a game console, but not a computer, and probably not high speed internet access.
Don't forget the college kids. After spending a small fortune on tuition and books that will be be out of date by the end of the semester (meaning the bookstore WONT buy them back) there are lots of college kids that cannot afford portable digital players (of reputable quality anyway).
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Either that, or you are buying from the welfare racks at the local junk computer store. I have seen small computer shops (Krazy Kenny's Custom Computer Warehouse, Columbus, Ohio) repackage used junk and sell as new. Try paying full -over inflated- price a "new" motherboard with dust on all of the heatsinks and around the CPU socket. Talk about being mad.
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