Defiant Amazon Will Pay Fines Rather Than Give Up Free Shipping In France
from the liberty,-equality-and-shipping-fees dept
A month ago, we wrote about the somewhat bizarre ruling in France that Amazon cannot offer free shipping within the country, as it represents an excessive discount in a country where the price of books is strictly regulated. Amazon was told that it would be fined 1,000 euros per day for continuing. Amazon has now appealed the ruling and defiantly noted that it will pay the fine rather than give in. Of course, after thirty days, the court can review the situation and could (and likely will) raise the fine to respond to Amazon's outspoken defiance. Legal experts quoted in the article suggest that there's very little chance that Amazon can win the appeal, but Amazon seems to be using this battle as a way to drum up some extra attention for its free shipping policies (for now) in France. Eventually, it may have to give in, but in the meantime, for 1,000 euros a day and all the news coverage, it's a pretty cheap advertisement for Amazon's free shipping offering.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Filed Under: fixed prices, france, regulatory pricing
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Go Amazon!
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That was hilarious, thank you
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Can someone explain why
And why would such regulation disapprove of cheaper and more readily available books for the people?
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Amazon
Standing for good things is the way to go.
Don't see this very often from large companies anymore.
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Once a government has control of something they don't like to let go.
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Re: Can someone explain why
It's one small part of a large, longstanding system of laws aimed at making sure the big bad chains don't put small shops out of business.
The Economist had an article on this phenomenon recently, if you want to read a bit more. (It doesn't talk about France specifically, but much the same sorts of laws and motivations are involved.)
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Shipping
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Sticking it to them?
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Typical Government
They might as well just say they are doing this to "protect the children" or some other B.S. government line thats used when the liegislation makes absolutely no sense.
Go Amazon!
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Re: Can someone explain why
I much prefer the little shops, they carry more of their specialty then any big-box store ever could. The people employed in the small shops generally WANT to be working there as it is their shop. They know more about what they are selling, and you name it.
Oh, and stop blaming China for their inferior products. Its the Capitalists that are importing that crap into North America knowing full well that its subpar materials. Risking health issues in our population all for the power of the all mighty buck.
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Hate Those French
And now they have the gall to not be 100% capitalist. Damn communist bastards. All that free healthcare that is cheaper but better than the US, how dare they! And the gall they have to value their way of life over unrestricted commerce and place limits on booksellers to keep their pathetic little neighborhood shops in business, they do that just to piss off us correct thinking Americans.
Maybe Amazon can sell them books about surrendering. (You like that joke? I came up with it all on my own, it's so funny!) I love picking on the French, it makes me fell all superior, and since I can't pick on Jews or blacks or other cultures without getting into trouble, it's nice to have one group I can be all prejudiced against in public and not be a social pariah.
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The constant cheap shots to French people is getting tiresome. Like Petrea Mitchell (Above..) was mentioning there are motivations behind this kind of regulations, not just in France. In the U.S. the price of the milk is regulated...(Law S. 2120), does that mean the US is turning into a form of socialism ? There are many aspects of the economy that needs to be controlled by a government, no matter where that it is, and depending on cultural,economical environment and corruption level...
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cut em off
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They Aren't Being Defient
freak3dot
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I assume that your post was intended to be sarcasm?
Just in case, you do realize that the US is not even 100% capitalism right? If I missed the sarcasm, my apologies.
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And I agre, the French basing is dumb, give it a rest. The French bashing post was not even close to being funny or creative in the least bit.
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to no. 8 comment - Petréa Mitchell
excerpt: "Controls must be “extremely severe” to ensure that the rules stick, explains Robert Geurts of the economics ministry, who glories in the title of director-general for regulation and organisation of the market. Inspectors receive many tips by telephone as rival shopkeepers denounce each other."
I'm sorry, any way you look at it free markets are better than one bureaucrat (or a hundred) deciding for everybody else what's good and what isn't.
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Yes, it does.
There are many aspects of the economy that needs to be controlled by a government
Says who?
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Also, last time the French bashing folks were all up in arms about how dumb and coward the French were for not attacking disarmed Irak - guess who look dumb now.
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Haha, I am hilarious.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but many of those mom and pop shops were closing well before Wal-Mart became a retailing juggernut.
The hardware stores in Canada seem to be doing fine in the face of competition from Home Depot, Lowes and Rona. I recall reading that a bunch of hardware stores in Toronto saw an increase in business after a Home Depot opened up.
You see, people went to Home Depot to buy the large items. But for the smaller items such as hammers, nails, screws, etc, they went to their local hardware store because it was more convenient and because they had store staff that would help them promptly.
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Where are the Lawyers?
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I personally prefer the small specialty stores as well because they can actually answer my questions. One person cannot keep a store in business. If everyone else shops at a big box than that small store isn't going to stand much of a chance. That's the power of the consumer.
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This sounds familiar. Wasn't this in a previous techdirt article?
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To Socialist
If so please move to a place more suited to your tastes, cuba north korea.
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--Charlene
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Tech Support For Dr. Offices Means Nothing.
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Thats hilarious..
Almost as funny as the States somehow believing that they 'rescued' them.. I mean that's the one that kills me. Of course, the fresh blood of the soldiers, that came years after the war started. Hysterical I tell you.
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french
considering all the money they save by not
buying soap.
ps when walmart came to my town, all those
little price gouging businesses all of a sudden
got competitive.
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Charge for shipping
Unless they are fighting a principal, the minimal cost ought to get round the issue.
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You are an idiot.
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