Will Infamous JPEG Patent Get A Re-Exam?

from the about-time dept

We've already talked about how Ray Niro, a well-known patent attorney, has been filing lawsuits over a patent he claims covers any website with a JPEG image. He's been known to particularly target his critics. It appears that all of the attention this patent has generated, has resulted in at least one party filing with the Patent Office to request a re-exam of the patent. While the patent has already gone through a re-exam in the past, and only this one claim survived, it would be nice to get it completely rejected.
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  1. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 1 Feb 2008 @ 12:35pm

    oh hum

    link to this | view in thread ]

  2. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 1 Feb 2008 @ 12:52pm

    so is Ray Niro a developer of some sort?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  3. identicon
    Iron Chef, 1 Feb 2008 @ 1:36pm

    Rambling about lean systems

    I'm not so sure that a simple re-exam this is the right answer. The issues with the USPTO run much further as shared by Mike in a previous post.

    Too many things changed recently. Less than five years ago, companies had the idea of "You need to replace your product before someone else does" and the idea of patenting processes was something of an afterthought. This was why we had new OSs released every few years, why companies decided to "Take a Swing" and try new concepts in their stores.

    So until recently, 7-11 used to have frozen coffee machines in many of their stores. Today, I miss the convenience of getting a faux frappuchino from 7-11 when I wanted one. I don't know the details, but maybe someone in legal got involved and as a result, 7-11 stopped selling frozen coffee drinks.

    What happened last summer explains a few things- Starbucks announced weaker earnings due to "increased demand for frozen drinks".

    In short, the market was artifically restrained under the auspice of copyright/patent law, and the business failed to accominidate future demand.


    Now, don't get me wrong, I love Starbucks. I even started planning on leaving for work 20 minutes early to get through the drive-thru line. But these efforts for getting a cup of Joe became especially apparent when I was stuck in a drive-thru line and had to pull out the laptop and lookup conference call information for a meeting with D-levels while I was stuck in a line for coffee.

    So I learned from this negative experience and decided to start making my own.


    Today this idea of constraint seems to be the exception, rather than the practice. When will lean, customer-driven systems become the answer rather than the exception? A lot can be learned from the Toyota Production System.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    tonyjones17, 1 Feb 2008 @ 2:45pm

    There's no reason to use JPEG images anymore. Use a GIF if you want a tiny filesize and low resolution, use a PNG if you want a quality pic with a very reasonable filesize. No patent fuss there. What good is a patent on an outdated image codec, anyway?

    The only reason I still use JPEG is that it's basically the MP3 of the low-end digital camera industry. My cell-phone and my cheap Samsung camera give me no other option, but I'm more than happy to convert afterwards, since all my viewing devices fully support PNG and many other types.

    Ideally, we should just drop JPEG entirely, and let it and it's stupid patent fade into bitter nostalgia.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    Iron Chef, 1 Feb 2008 @ 3:37pm

    Ooops!

    I'd like to retract parts of my last message, as I could have been to lazy to go to 7-11 after I read some statement that Starbucks was suing 7-11, knowing how these lawsuits end up...

    Anyways, licensing is the key, especially when a market has been identified.

    I can't find the article, so I feel very redfaced, and will go to the Starbucks HQ on Monday and give an apology.

    I still love Starbucks. Sorry Howard Schultz!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 1 Feb 2008 @ 3:57pm

    Re: Ooops!

    I smell a cover up. Who was it again that had a patent on suing someone for defamation?

    Seriously though, and I know this is a lot to ask for, but I'd LOVE for copyright and patent laws to roll back and re-asses the changes that need to be made for digital goods. It seems to me that things were changed arbitrarily or selfishly without proper research.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. identicon
    Cixelsid, 1 Feb 2008 @ 4:27pm

    I really, really, really, really, really, really,

    really don't like it that people/companies can buy up patents and then sue randomly. I'm pretty certain the original purpose of patents (AFAIK should be protection of the individual inventor) is not being served.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  8. identicon
    hwall, 1 Feb 2008 @ 5:21pm

    patents on tech

    tech moves so fast that patents are for the most part useless.

    There is .tiff, .png, etc to replace .jpg

    Anytime legalman gets involved, everything gets a little worse for everyone.

    Remember when SCO was suing everyone running Linux?

    Haven't heard about that for awhile.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  9. identicon
    Iron Chef, 1 Feb 2008 @ 10:44pm

    Re: Re: Ooops!

    Not so sure. But considering that the TSA has a blog, I'm sure they could find 'em and sue them. But they have a little fun in the process, and use the feedback to better the process.

    From the Page: "Throughout the ages, there have been many unanswered questions that continue to baffle the human race. Who built Stonehenge? Is there life on other planets? Why does the TSA make me place my liquids in a clear sealable baggie?"

    Enjoy.
    http://www.tsa.gov/blog/

    link to this | view in thread ]

  10. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 2 Feb 2008 @ 4:01pm

    Re:

    You are a moron. Pngs are several times larger than png for photographic images.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  11. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 2 Feb 2008 @ 4:01pm

    Re: Re:

    several times larger than jpeg, you knowwhat I mean

    link to this | view in thread ]

  12. identicon
    Search◆ Engines WEB |, 4 Feb 2008 @ 4:01am

    Jpeg 2000

    Will Jpeg 2000's future and any future developments be affected by this?

    Most of the patent was dismissed due to prior art = but what parts were reinstated

    link to this | view in thread ]

  13. identicon
    Anonymous, 26 Feb 2008 @ 2:05pm

    I find it funny that http://www.uspto.gov has jpeg

    I find it funny that http://www.uspto.gov has jpegs on it's website. Someone should file a fake patent on behalf of that Troll to sue the US Government for hundreds of billions of dollars. :)

    link to this | view in thread ]


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