Facebook? Suicide? That's All I Need... Don't Bother Me With Facts...
from the bury-the-facts dept
Last week there was a lot of ridiculous buzz trying to connect Facebook to a series of suicides in the UK. It's the sort of thing that newspapers love to run with. Facebook is popular, and parents are already worried about it, so link it to suicide and *bam* immediate interest in the story. Of course, an equally accurate story could be "Paper Industry Linked To Suicide After Many Victims All Leave Notes!" Yet, that doesn't stop some people from trying. Con von Hoffman writes in to point out that the UK story has migrated down under, with an Australian newspaper warning parents about Facebook suicides in the UK. The only problem, there doesn't seem to be any support to the actual story -- as even the Australian article notes... though, buried down in the fourth paragraph: "a police spokesman in Bridgend said there was no evidence to date of a suicide pact and that the theory did not come from police." Despite that, the article still says that "experts remain concerned there may be a connection between the suicides and social networking sites." Meanwhile, the article also quotes someone saying: "The more stories that appear about young people having killed themselves in your area, the more it might appear to you to be a reasonable response to a particular kind of crisis." So, perhaps the Australian paper is trying to turn it into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Holy f***n crap
"teenagers were killing themselves because memorial sites were seen as prestigious."
"sites set up by friends after a teenager's death could add to the appeal of suicide."
"The web pages are usually placed in really beautiful positions and it gives them some sort of notoriety,"
"The notion of grief and sadness spread through social networks after their death could give young people a sense of power"
First, why would anyone think of this? If your dead how can you enjoy being famous?
Second, if your at that point where a memorial site pushes you to suicide I'm going to guess that you're pretty far gone by then anyways. It would only be a matter of time before it happens with or without the sites.
I don't think this could be any more obvious fear mongering.
On a second read of the article it almost sounds like this O'Brien person is trying to push for more people to commit suicide.
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Re: Holy f***n crap
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Dont b a hater
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Re: Dont b a hater
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HAHAHA its sooooo true.....
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Both fallacious, but I haven't the energy to argue on TechDirt today.
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Now!
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Now!
Run in front of that bus.
Drink that solvent.
Stand in the way of the Amerikkkan industrial military complex.
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Thining the Herd
My life hasn't been a sunshine a rainbows, but you don't see my putting the shotgun to my mouth with my big right toe on the trigger. Weak people that don't buck up and say how they feel just don't deserve any pity from anyone.
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Re: Thining the Herd
how about we go back to when we were kids, or even when our parents were kids..........before ADD, and ADHD, and Ridlin, and "video games are screwing up my kids".
I didn't have a car seat, or even wear a seatbelt. I had lead based paint all over my house, my Tonka trucks were made of Steel with sharp edges not plastic, and if the girl you liked didn't like you, well, you just found another girl to like.
Why is society trying so hard to make our kids helpless.
Shut up, grow a pair, and raise your kids to be smarter than all this crap.
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It's like the "Delete Account" feature of life.
I love anything that facilitates this!
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I'm sure other experts will say there's no connection
Some experts will says there's a small connection
Some experts will smoke pot and won't care
Other experts will kill the kids themselves
And still some other experts will say that other experts who are quoting some other experts that are experts on what experts say will say that experts don't know what the other experts are talking about.
The word 'expert' has a very loose definition anymore - 69 out of 50 experts agree on that too.
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I am insensitive
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Remember when this broke in the UK
My first thoguht was "oh here we go again, lets see what tenuious links to facebook they have" so sat down though the entire segment
And guess what? Facebook and the web were never mentioned again
Whole thing was basiclly teen suicides were up big time and there were no links between the kids, either real world or online (was not even known if the all the kids were online) and the cops were baffled
if they asked anyone who studies social phoneomena they would have seen this is common, when one kids kills them self and the press splash it all over their pages you soon have a spat of them doing it. Same with school shooting
More appropriate title in my opinion would be
"Teen suicides possibly linked to news media"
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Oh yeah, and Marylin Manson shot all those kids at Columbine.
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maybe...
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Self-Empowerment!
"Does life suck-ass? Does everybody massively hate you but simultaneously wouldn't notice if you were gone? Wouldn't that teach them? Come on down to Bob's Blow it All Away!"
The entrance door would have an "EXIT" sign on it! lol
Save some food for the millions around the globe struggling to stick around.
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Futurama did it(best)...
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But seriously
If You Seriously Have Had It With Life, And Are Of At Least 22 Years Of Age (That Way You've At Least Had Enough Time To Experience All That Life, Cigarettes, Pr0n, And Alcohol Has To Offer) You Should Be Allowed To Fill Out A Form Stating Why You Want To Commit Suicide.
Of Course The Usual Reasons Will Be Automatically Denied *eg* (I Was Dumped, Lost My Job, My Significant Other Died, No Friends, Emo, Goth, Etc.).
Then You Submit This Form To A New Branch Of The Government That I Would Invent Called Ministry Of Death (Mod For Short) For Review.
If Your Reason Is Convincing Enough, Or You Really Aren't Helping Advance Humanity In Anyway You Will Be Approved.
You Will Then Be Contacted With A Date, And Time To Be Present At The Processing Facility.
You Will Then Be Given A Choice Of How You Would Like To Die.
There Will Be Just About Every Form Of Death Known To Man (And If Yours Isn't Listed By All Means Let Us Know So We Can Add It For Future Applicants)
If The Method Of Suicide You Choose Didn't Damage Any, Or All Of Your Vital Organs They Will Then Be Harvested For People Who Actually Want To Live Otherwise They Will Be Disposed Of Along With Your Corpse.
This Whole Process Mind You Will Take At Least 6 Months To 1 Year To Run Complete, And Just In Case You Wimp Out When You Get Your Date, And Time You Will Be Given An Ankle, Or Wrist Bracelet That Is Not Removable And You Can Simply Press The Correct Sequence Of Numbers You Set When It Was Placed On Your Persons To Cancel Your Request For Suicide.
Before You Think It's Just That Easy No It's Not.
You Will Have To Pay For Wasting The Mod's Time (However Much It Costs To Process An Applicants Request), Your Name/current Photo/and Brief Contact Info (Nothing Too Personal Like Address) Will Be Broadcast To The World Forever Branding You As The Pussy Who Wanted To Commit Suicide, But Couldn't Go Through With It (To Detour Emo/goth Fags Who Would Go Through The Whole Process Just To Procure One Of Those "cool Death Bracelets" Only To Wuss Out At The Moment Of Death).
I Feel Like I'm Missing Something. Anyhow This Looks Good For Now I'll Add More Later If I Can Remember Anything Else.
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Re: But seriously
And whats with the rejecting of applicants?
You kill yourself for a really stupid reason (like your girlfriend dumping you) then the species is better off.
And why an agency? Kill yourself at home on the spot.
Our police departments are typically skilled enough to tell when someone killed themselves and can put it on record, theres no need for an agency or a processing facility.
I don't want my tax money going into giving some suicidal moron death conveniences. He can kill his own bloody self on his own time and wallet.
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Bebo
Dumb article. Dumber comments in this thread.
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Some of the comments
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