Did DirecTV Hire Satellite Hackers To Leak Dish TV Smart Cards?
from the seems-a-bit-extreme dept
I had missed this story when it came out last week, but thanks to a reader (who prefers to remain anonymous) for sending it in. Apparently, Dish Network is suing DirecTV, claiming that DirecTV (and its parent News Corp) hired notorious satellite TV hackers to break Dish's encryption and "flood the market" with hacked smart cards. That's quite a claim, and it will be interesting to see what evidence the company has to back it up. After all, reverse engineering a product is perfectly legal -- and, indeed, DirecTV claims that's all it did. Furthermore, it seems doubly strange that DirecTV would go down this route after so thoroughly pissing off smart card hackers of all kinds a few years ago by accusing them all of stealing DirecTV signals with almost no evidence, and then pushing many to pay up to avoid a lawsuit. It's also hard to see what the real benefit to DirecTV is of such a plan. Making it easier to get Dish for free shouldn't increase DirecTV's market at all. One would hope that Dish actually has some serious evidence to go along with these claims.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Filed Under: competition, hacking, satellite tv
Companies: directv, dish, echostar, news corp
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it seems those ppl are really convinced that the Media industry is loosing money because of P2P networks not because there product is crap.
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Get your facts straight
Next you will say Liberty Media was behind this and John Malone was the mastermind!
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Ownership
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Re: Ownership
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No, in the USA, reverse engineering
Not that I agree with the law.
DCMA and CSS (for DVDs) do specifically state that attempts to reverse engineer the security, just thinking about it is a crime.
Not the first thought crime, will not be the last.
I do have mixed feelings about the reason,
I want a burglar attempt to be prosecuted, just because the attempt was unsuccessful does not mean that it is not a crime. In this case the attempt IS a crime.
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world's smallest violin..
All I hear from Dish is "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!".
They have gotten in a deal with ebay where if you try to sell your LEGAL satellite receiver that you have to comply with Dish Network's fascist policies or else they will cancel your auctions. I'm NOT talking about selling something with a hacked card or whatever but selling something that you have full right to sell.
You see, Dish Network wants to control everything about their receivers and their use/resale even if it means they violate the doctrine of first sale. For this alone I'd be willing to make a class action attorney rich just to take some of the bounce out of their step for a few months.
So screw them. I hope DirecTV did hire hackers to ruin their day.
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Re: Get your facts straight
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One reason...
I can imagine a world where Dish Network's customers canceled their service - thus reducing the company's monthly income - while still getting service for free (or, if not canceling, reducing the money paid for premium content). This could force a cash crunch at the company and allow DirectTV to gain the upper hand - even if they don't actually compete in the market.
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Re: Get your facts straight
>before Dish tried to buy DIRECTV (initiated in Dec 2001
>and declined by the FCC in Oct 2002 -
Holy cow, it took a long time for the courts to hear this case!
Assuming Reuters publish date is correct, I see it akin to suing your ex-wife for hitting your car when you were dating.
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Most of their channels are the same as those on Dish. If Dish is avaliable for free then it's effectively the same as having most of the channels of DirecTV for free. If you can get free from Dish illegally, why would you bother paying for Dish or DirecTV?
The reason Dish encryption (Nagravision) was hacked is that their system is based in their receivers and only certain portions reside on the card. It's generally a less robust system than Videoguard than DirecTV has. They upgraded it with new cards but it was hacked again because they are limited in what they can do.
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Bigger picture
This in no way defends their biggest competitor; cable. The cable companies are even more in bed w/the Devil.
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Direct TV
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DirecTV satels from contractors
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smartcards
Anthony Stage
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I would like to get more info if there is been a process to end with this unfairness from them.
Thanks.
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hacker for hire
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HACKER FOR HIREThey are all scammers, they will make you pay aft
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