Why Is The Government Asking Companies To Both Retain And Destroy Data?

from the something's-not-working dept

With Congress' latest attempt to force data retention on anyone who operates a network (including home users), some are realizing that other parts of the government have been equally adamant about getting these same folks to destroy the very same information for the sake of keeping people's data private. It does seem like we're on a crash course between privacy on the one hand, and the demands of law enforcement, the entertainment industry and a few others who want all data to be kept for as long as possible. A few years back, when stories of how the government was misusing data that it got access to were revealed, we had hoped that it would lead politicians to recognize the downsides of data retention. But, of course, that's not quite how Washington DC works.
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  1. identicon
    Dan, 3 Mar 2009 @ 10:00pm

    And who will pick up the pieces when it all comes to a head?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  2. identicon
    Chunky Vomit, 3 Mar 2009 @ 10:05pm

    It is a mess

    So I'm going to retain what I want to retain, and destroy what I want to destroy.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  3. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2009 @ 10:17pm

    SNAFU or just an other case were the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2009 @ 11:08pm

    Re: It is a mess

    That sounds like a Dick Cheney move.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    zcat, 3 Mar 2009 @ 11:42pm

    Easily solved

    Just make a photocopy or two of every document before shredding it. Right?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. identicon
    Chunky Vomit, 4 Mar 2009 @ 12:30am

    Re: Re: It is a mess

    Good thing I'm talking about data and not people eh?

    link to this | view in thread ]

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    femtobeam, 4 Mar 2009 @ 1:26am

    Destruction of data

    It might be people with neural interface technology accessing the human brain. The data may also have been falsified. It could prove wrongdoing and theft of IP. What about identity theft? The only purpose of destroying data is to destroy information about who created it and why. In other words, all the people who were spied upon by communications subcontractors to the government agencies who were stealing trade secrets and IP, then falsifying information about their subjects. The anti-competitive practices would become known with a paper trail and so would the abuses. Just because there is a copy of the data doesn't mean it will be used unlawfully, that is if it can be safely stored, which is very difficult to achieve.

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  8. identicon
    Dan, 4 Mar 2009 @ 3:07pm

    The solution is to take an out of focus low res picture of each page and shred the original. You have then satisfied both laws. Is anyone surprised by the contradiction? We are talking about the federal government here after all.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  9. identicon
    HELLO!, 14 Apr 2009 @ 10:45pm

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    “BAD NEWS FROM THE UNITED STATES: ON THE RACIST HATE CRIMES AND ETERNAL INFAMIES OF GEORGE W. BUSH, BILL CLINTON, GEORGE H.W. BUSH, AND RONALD REAGAN” BLOG

    badnewsfromtheunitedstates.blogspot.com
    ________________
    ‘If only there could be a Ban against invention that bottled up memory like scent & it never faded & it never got stale.’ Off the top of my head, it came from my Lower Merion High School yearbook.

    link to this | view in thread ]


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