Questions Raised About Logo Artist Who Was Accused Of 'Stealing' From Himself
from the look-again dept
Well, well, well... a few folks have been sending in some of the investigations that have been going on concerning the logo designer, Jon Engle, who caused a big stir on a variety of sites (including ours) by claiming that he was being accused of infringing on his own logo artwork. However, as more people started investigating the matter, his story has become increasingly suspect, both with certain elements not adding up, and additional evidence suggesting that Engle himself may have, in fact, used images from others in the logos he had uploaded to sites. There are also some other claims that Engle had absolutely nothing to do with some of the logos that he said he designed. However, as the public scrutiny of Engle's story is spreading, Engle's reputation is taking a big hit -- showing how the damage done to one's own reputation by plagiarism can be punitive, even without invoking copyright law. Reputation is a scarce good... destroying it by lying and duping a bunch of folks is going to come back to bite you.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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"...wholesale2008.com"
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Good point
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What happens if the score is so big that one wouldn't care if a future reputation is ruined? They still have their money.
Reputation is all fine and good, but isn't the be all to end all. If you could make $20 million after taxes on one big score but would ruin your reputation forever, would you do it? I think most would.
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Plagiarism?
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If you were trying for English... fail.
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Good artical. The problem is realy exsit. reading. If you like cheap jordan shoes or you are intersting in buy jordan shoes and true religion jeans.welcome to my blog.
See - legitimate advertising can get you customers - spamming a blog will steer them very far away. I don't think I would ever trust a spammer with credit card information - heck, I barely trust half the the regular retails outlets with that info.
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more blather from beneath the bridge
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Silly me, pricks are you (I know, the play on words sucks. Community, help me out w/a better one)
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IMHO, I expect someone who is a "guru" and guiding light in the battle against copyright and all those things to have a better nose for it than me. Mike doesn't deserve a pat on the back for the original story or the retraction, at least not until he writes an agressive, venomous post about how people like Engle are trying to hide and rip other people off.
Until then, the atta-boys aren't forthcoming.
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I note the identical propensity in virtually all matters involving groups such as the RIAA, the MPAA, and the BSA.
How easy it is to express opinions proclaiming righteous indignation without any predicate facts. I guess independent thought and investigation have become passe.
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Uh. Someone apparently isn't paying attention. It was independent thought and investigation that EXPOSED this as being a fraud. And now the blogs that posted it in the first place are the first to expose the fraud as well.
So what are you complaining about now?
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"Questions Raised About Logo Artist Who Was Accused Of 'Stealing' From Himself"
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"Designer Threatened With Copyright Infringement Claims... On His Own Work"
The original post is full of righteous indignation, the follow up is filled with carefully couched phrases like "certain elements not adding up"
The original? "They started going after all of Engle's clients," concluding with a surly "Nice to see copyright law "protecting" the artist again. "
The rush to judgement, the wild desire to see copyright somehow abused is so great that there is no waiting for fact, the mere whiff of a story is enough to run the propaganda machines up to full speed. The proof is in some of the comments in the original thread, that were downright insulting to those of us who could already see that the story was full of holes.
Those people are very, very quiet now.
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Mike doesn't deserve a pat on the back for the original story or the retraction, at least not until he writes an agressive, venomous post about how people like Engle are trying to hide and rip other people off.
Until then, the atta-boys aren't forthcoming.
You really think the original post was "venomous"?
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yes reputation is important
by the time all this is over, all of you (engels, the stock company, blogs who think they have some sort of "scoop") are going to have your hands dirty.
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Are you saying that he paid for the page? How much I wonder.
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