Band Used By The Prosecution In Pirate Bay Case Releases Latest Album... On The Pirate Bay

from the whoops dept

Mon, Jun 1st 2009 12:49pm — Mike Masnick

Advance Patrol was one of the bands used by the prosecution in The Pirate Bay trial as an example of a band harmed by The Pirate Bay. Except... apparently the band didn't think so. Isak sends in the news that the band has released its latest album on The Pirate Bay, with a message saying how they love The Pirate Bay:

The hiphop group known as Advance Patrol hereby release its new album on The Pirate Bay today. They do so to spread their music to as many as possible, and at the same time discredit the prosecution against The Pirate Bay, a prosecution where Advanced Patrol has been used as a weapon in the circus around the court proceedings....

We never asked to be plaintiffs in this case, Gonza from Advance Patrol explains, they used us as a weapon in a fight in which we don't wish to participate. We refuse to be used in a war against our fans!

You cannot legislate away file sharing, Gonza says. Those who share our music are also those who appreciate it the most. They are my friends, and friendship is something to be valued highly. That's why we're giving away El Futuro to the internet, to our friends.

Once again, the further this goes on, the worse and worse the lawsuit looks for the entertainment industry...

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Osno, 1 Jun 2009 @ 1:24pm

It's the first time (after a year or so) that I read "the entertainment industry" and I think "actually, entertainment is doing pretty well... not so the MAFIAA".

Oh, and first!
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Ron (profile), 1 Jun 2009 @ 1:26pm

How ...
... could the band have been used as an argument against TPB if the band, in fact, had no problem with TPB? The article says the prosecution held up the band as having been harmed but the defense could have simply called band members and management and asked the question "Were you financially harmed by TPB?". If the answer was "No" then their value as a part of the prosecution case would have become zero (could maybe have been viewed as detrimental to the quality of the prosecution's preparation for the case) and defense would have been enriched by that same answer.
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Anonymous Poster, 1 Jun 2009 @ 1:34pm

It just keeps getting better with every passing week.

And to think, all of this entertainment is free!
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 1:43pm

Re: How ...
TBH, the defense attorney for TBP seems a bit overwhelmed. There have been a LOT of things he *could* have done that would of helped but didn't at the time. Lets face it, taking on the RIAA/MPAA type lawyers is a pretty scary prospect.
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Anonymous Poster, 1 Jun 2009 @ 1:43pm

Re: How ...
The prosecution probably THOUGHT the band was okay with being used as an example (the RIAA and its international associates like to think they speak for every musician under their expansive, smothering wing).
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 1:52pm

How could the band have been used as an argument against TPB if the band, in fact, had no problem with TPB?

They most likely got their examples by doing a torrent search and picking the top listed torrents of that day. Then cross referenced the torrent list with bands signed under a label and used that in their case.
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 1:55pm

Hippies! I want to see their faces 50 years after they died, when their grand children have to earn their own living!
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Ragaboo, 1 Jun 2009 @ 2:02pm

I hate hip hop. That being said, I'm downloading the album now even though I never would have heard of them before.
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minijedimaster (profile), 1 Jun 2009 @ 2:15pm

Re:
Ditto, and Ditto.
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cvpunk, 1 Jun 2009 @ 2:22pm

Re: Re: How ...
Even bands who don't want any part of the RIAA.
This from Fat Wreck Chords website F.A.Q.

"What the fuck is the RIAA and is Fat part of it?

They are the Recording Industry Association of America. Are we a member? Not only no, but FUCK NO! We spent three years having our label’s name (which was mispelled) removed from their members list. A year went by, then our name showed up again on their fucking list! Who are these sonsabitches?! Needless to say, we’re in the process of having our name removed again, but they aren’t being too cooperative."
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 2:27pm

Re:
This Torrent ?
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4922804/Advance_Patrol_-_El_Futuro_-_MP3_-_TPB002.4922804.TPB.to rrent

Ditto
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stat_insig (profile), 1 Jun 2009 @ 2:41pm

Re:
Wow!! You guys are making so much difference! Why don't you start a chain mail asking people to sign a online petition?
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Ragaboo, 1 Jun 2009 @ 2:56pm

Re: Re:
I believe you miss the point. We aren't saying we're making a difference. We're saying what Advance Patrol is doing is making a difference, as evidenced by people like us.
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stat_insig (profile), 1 Jun 2009 @ 3:03pm

Re: Re: Re:
I do agree that Advance Patrol is making a difference. But how does you downloading, especially since you hate hip-hop, would make a difference?

You would probably download it, listen to a song or two, and then forget about it.

FYI: I do think TPB verdict was unfair.
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Glaze, 1 Jun 2009 @ 3:19pm

Re: Re: Re: Re:
Normally, I don't post on other people's comments, but like to post my own thoughts.

First I am a big proponent of TPB, however, I think the mess that they are in is justified, by law. I would also like to note, that the reason I am so adamant about them winning this case, is because it will force the RIAA, MPAA, and all the rest to start thinking of a new buisiness model, and start trying to catch up with the new revolution.

As much as I hate to say it, we are, for the most part, not a brick and mortar civilization any longer, or are going away from that aspect of things, and it is time that these industry F*Ctards started realizing that. The final decisions in the TPB case will definitely have a lasting impression on the industry should all the appeals go through.
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Thamios, 1 Jun 2009 @ 5:03pm

Wow. This has gone from a victory, to a possible mistrial, seeing as they obviously never gave their OK to be cited/used as evidence, which (at least in the US) would mean that all the evidence relating to them must be thrown out.
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 5:08pm

Re:
Laughing at the prosecution is entertainment enough for me.
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Bloodyscot, 1 Jun 2009 @ 5:12pm

Re ...
The RIAA/MPAA groups wants the laws to be that everything is under copyright unless you can prove its not. It is hard to prove what is under copyright and what is not or how long it will be under copyright, many songs have be put in public domain or the copyrights have run out but it is a mess now to try and find out. Many of the contracts from the 50's, 60's and 70's were illegal but you have to go to court and spend 50k to 500k to prove it and very few bands have unless they made alot of money touring. Most bands make little off of records/CDs and nothing from radio play(only song writers), when you sign most standand contracts you sign away most of your rights including recording copyrights. For each song there are several copyrights and unless you owned them all you can't put a song in public domain.

The RIAA/MPAA are worried about losing control, they would like to put Apple/itunes out of business because artists may start recording and marketing their songs without going thought the record companies and may start collecting fees direct from itunes and not have to pay RIAA to collect it for them. The MPAA wants to keep all talking movies and TV shows from every going in to the public domain, just look at what Ted Turner did with the old MGM movies and a news station.
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Chronno S. Trigger, 1 Jun 2009 @ 5:17pm

Re: Re: Re: Re:
"But how does you downloading, especially since you hate hip-hop, would make a difference?"

He may not like it, but the others that download it off of him may. It's also an opportunity for someone who may be on the fence to try it without having to find someone who has it or have it go on the radio (what are the odds of that?)

This is the exact reason I have it shared and will upload it until my HDD crashes (or Verizon finally kicks me off.)
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 5:20pm

Re: Re: Re: How ...
Someone should start a list stating everyone who's on the RIAA's member list who does not want to be a member and was added on that list involuntarily. Bands could add themselves to that list so anyone can go to a website and see all the bands that the RIAA pretends to represent that they don't really represent. Of course bands would need some way to authenticate their identity to the site.
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Zaven (profile), 1 Jun 2009 @ 5:58pm

Re:
Same here. Gotta love free music and free promotion. I'm sure doing this will net them a few fans they wouldn't have otherwise.
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net625, 1 Jun 2009 @ 7:46pm

lol
Is it me? Or because of all the attention TPB is getting more people are seeding? I can now get music and movies faster then iTunes, and I can watch them on anything I want XD.
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 8:23pm

Re: Re:
Enjoy while it is free - the flow will drop off rapidly when people stop being able to afford to make music.
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Ousama, 1 Jun 2009 @ 8:27pm

Digizal.com Supports the Pirate Bay: DOWNLOAD SHIT
Digizal.com, is a legalized and more itunes like version of the pirate bay, we strongly support the pirate bays movement towards openess. We are trying to create a legal platform where people can download shit.
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 8:35pm

Re: Re: Re:
No, the flow will drop off rapidly when the stupid MPAA and RIAA keep lobbying the government for more restrictive laws.
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 8:56pm

Re: Re: Re:
Bands don't make millions from CD sales.
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2009 @ 10:21pm

Re: Re: Re: Re:
After the flow drops off (due to stricter copyright laws) the media will incorrectly blame it on piracy.
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FatGiant (profile), 2 Jun 2009 @ 2:39am

The flow drop is in no danger of happening.

It will be a simple replacing of "Stars". The artificially made, that are now the standard, by the fan selected, that are becoming the norm. Example: Susan Boyle.

Musicians everywhere are realising that they are not employees of the labels. At best they are label slaves. Who actualy pays them are the fans, and those are the ones that need to be obliged. Little by little, they'll come around. Of course, some dinossaurs will take more time to die then others, some will make more noise, or stink a lot worse, before they disappear, but since meteor "Internet" fall on these once label paradise, they are doomed to extintion.

What will replace them? What will be the "mammal" of the after crash? Too early to tell yet. Let's enjoy the ride...

No, the flow is in no danger. Maybe, just maybe, who knows... Quality will even improve...
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Anonymous Coward, 2 Jun 2009 @ 4:53am

Sad but true part
is they don't own the rights to their previous albums, the label does, and the label, as with all the labels owned by IFPIRIAA, likes sue-dance.

If I remember right, the danish director of one of the movies ... well, nobody asked him either.
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Arudis, 2 Jun 2009 @ 5:39am

Re: Re:
>> Wow!! You guys are making so much difference! Why don't you
>> start a chain mail asking people to sign a online petition?

Maybe because we're not as brilliantly stupid as you. =P
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Mechwarrior, 2 Jun 2009 @ 6:10am

All this talk of misrepresentation makes me wonder, if the labels "mistakenly" think that a non-signed artist is part of their catalog, would it be considered negligence or theft for taking money from the artists' revenue?
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btr1701 (profile), 2 Jun 2009 @ 10:25am

Re: Evidence
> they obviously never gave their OK to be
> cited/used as evidence, which (at least in
> the US) would mean that all the evidence
> relating to them must be thrown out.

Huh? That's a new one to me and I've been practicing law for decades. You just made up an entirely new rule of evidence all on your own.

Well done!

There's actually no such rule that requires the exclusion of evidence merely because the prosecution entered publicly available information about a band (or any other group or organization or individual) into evidence without asking their permission.

If I'm a prosecutor trying a case against your neighbor for disturbing the peace and I enter into evidence publicly available data about property values in your neighborhood, including your home, I don't have to ask your permission first, even if it's not a something you want to be involved in. Hell, even if you support your neighbor's cause and disagree with the prosecution altogether.
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Roman, 3 Jun 2009 @ 12:31am

New Band
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JJ, 3 Jun 2009 @ 1:59am

Does anyone have any documentation of the fact that they were used in the Pirate Bay trial, or is this just a story they made-up to get in the news and get some free promotion?
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