Norwegian Supreme Court Explores Whether Private Companies Should Get Access To IP Info
from the legal-questions dept
TorrentFreak alerts us to an interesting case happening in Norway right now. Apparently, the most expensive movie ever produced in Norway was (shocking, I know) found on the internet soon after it was released. The filmmakers got very, very upset about this and "launched an investigation." After figuring out what they believed to be the IP address of the first uploader, they went to the police, who basically said they weren't interested in getting involved. So instead, the fillmmakers filed a civil suit and attempted to get the name of the account associated with the IP address at the time of the first upload. But, at least in Norway, it's something of an open legal question as to whether or not a private company/individual can get such info, as it has the potential to violate data privacy rules.Oddly, the court made its decision last May, but kept the verdict secret from the public. I guess I'm not that familiar with Norwegian law, but I find it odd that a verdict can be kept secret. Either way, whichever party lost (and no one knows who) appealed, and the Norwegian Supreme Court is apparently looking over the case.
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If I recall correctly, this is one (if not THE one) highest grossing Norwegian movie made, so just how much "damage" the leaked version has done is questionable.
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Secret verdict
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Appeals
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Where do you appeal a Supreme court ruling?
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If there is no manner to know who is on an individual IP (even after a court case), the copyright holders would have no alternative but to go after the owner of record of the IP block. That would be the only valid (and publically revealed) owner they could contact. If the ISPs are barred from giving out user information, they could end up on the hook.
I would say that neither party in this would like the ruling.
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Potential plaintiff: Hmmm...there were no witnesses who saw the car run over my dear grandmother...what to do? what to do? Guess I'll sue all auto manufacturers or how about suing the city, must be their fault as they own the streets...while I'm at it, I'll sue all of the residents of the city it happened in...after all, they own the street where it happened too...they're all to blame for this for sure.
After all, we should really be thinking about the children.
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You saw a car run over granny, it had "ISP" logos on it, and it drove in and parked in the ISP building, and the person went into the ISP building.
Should we just ignore all that?
The rest of your post is just a rant, a bizarre absolute attempt to get away from reality, I think.
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The reality is that you are ignoring that the COURTS could still get this information. Just not the accusing corporation (the music industry, since you're a little slow, today). You are making assumptions not in evidence, little troll.
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Re: Nonsense
> the owner of record of the IP block
You apparently live in some fantasy world where it's assumed that an aggrieved copyright owner has to be able to sue *somebody* and if they can't find the person who actually aggrieved them, they can just start attaching liability to whomever they please.
In reality, sometimes shit just happens and there's no recourse.
For example, last night's episode of "The Big Bang Theory" included a vanity card from the producer after the end credits bemoaning the fact that there's a direct rip-off of their show airing in Belarus called "The Theorists" containing the same characters with the same names, and the episodes are almost line-by-line transcriptions of the American show. The producer, Chuck Lorre, was frustrated when Warner legal told him nothing could be done because the TV network in Belarus is owned by the government and the government won't allow itself to be sued.
In reality, that's the end of it. Lorre and Warners just have to live with the fact that they're being ripped off. Shit happens. But according to your view of the world, since the rights-holder can't sue the *actual* infringer, they should be able to just find the next best person available. Maybe in this case, they'd be justified in opening up the Minsk phone directory and suing random Belarussians for the actions of their government?
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Re: Anti-Mike
You want to know where it goes to the SPAM box, because there is no law against file sharing. Go Norway!
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Re: Anti-Mike
You want to know where it goes to the SPAM box, because there is no law against file sharing. Go Norway!
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