Should YouTube Allow Artful Nudity?
from the but-think-of-the-commenters... dept
The EFF and the National Coalition Against Censorship are apparently asking YouTube to consider changing its policy with regards to nudity. Apparently, it will allow nudity if the video is from a film or TV show -- but not if it's user generated videos made for YouTube. Separately, YouTube suggests it will allow nudity with "some educational, documentary and scientific content, but only if that is the sole purpose of the video and it is not gratuitously graphic." The problem, according to the EFF and NCAC, is that there is no exception for work that is artistic in nature, and apparently YouTube recently removed the videos of a well-known artist, Amy Greenfield, for violating the "no nudity" policy. Now, this isn't actually a "censorship" issue, since YouTube is a private site, and not the government. So, honestly, I don't see any problem with YouTube deciding that it doesn't want that particular content on its site, but there is a separate issue raised here -- which is that, once again, the real issue is Google's lack of customer service -- something we've seen a lot of lately. One of the complaints is that Greenfield's videos were taken down with no recourse and no method for her to communicate with folks at YouTube to talk about getting them back online.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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It depends...
Hollywood studio nudity: OK
Independent video maker nudity: Not OK
The "big corporate club" in action? I guess membership has it privileges.
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Pornography is protected under the 1st amendment here in the US with specific caveats as a form of art. From Lap dances in bars being considered a performance art (and in Las Vegas, Nevada, are taxed as such) to the famous U.S. Supreme Court case of Hustler Magazine (Larry Flynt) v. Jerry Falwell.
So long as the people involved are all consenting adults.
Would an image or video of nude people riding the bus as if they were wearing clothes be considered artistic or pornography? Or is pornography strictly erotic in nature?
Maybe I've been on the internet for FAR too long to see where the line is drawn.
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Nudity on Youtube
Then, I thought maybe stuff like this is so controversial (womem rights, breast feeding in public and so on) they probably preferred to leave them with just a warning ("may not be suitable for minors").
I'm all for it and it's a pity Americans are so stuck up about nudity - here in Europe it's not such a big deal.
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But they're very much present on the site.
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rights n stuff
Stoopid people (present company excepted).
Copyright Me.
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tfp...
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Artful vs Awful
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Mainly we need labels
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Objection!
Give people an inch, and they'll soon demand a mile.
This is exactly what's happening here given this idiot named Amy Greenfield decided on her own accord to change the services she saw fit.
I don't believe Google, who gives people plenty of leeway to upload some rather ridiculous things, should be punished (or thought of doing so to its customers) for implementing a few restrictions, one of which being nudity.
Those who challenge "nudity is art" are the same that will turn around ten seconds later and scream "child pornography!" if the same approach is taken to children.
Google has every right to stand by this decision not to open up this can of worms, while trying to give people the choice to determine what's art, and what's pornography.
If people are that damn desperate for seeing nudity, the internet is more than sufficient to meet their desires.
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So let me get this straight... Natural is against the rules, but cyberbulling is perfectly hunky dory? wtf
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They do need to move the line. Ether no nudity or nudity, I'll support them in ether decision, but I don't support their current policy.
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It's self-regulating.
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I wouldn't want to be judge of what is artistic
In order for Google to accept what is artistic, they have to become judges of what is artistic and what isn't. By comparison, it is easier to judge what is of scientific value or what has come out of a major studio.
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Or, are we still in the camp where parts of the body are dangerous to children?
Humans are an odd bunch.
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In November 2006, within a year of its launch, YouTube was purchased by Google Inc. in one of the most talked-about acquisitions to date.
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A video of a CHILD Breastfeeding with a warning: ("may not be suitable for minors").
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That's not true: they DO allow nudity. It just depends on who you are.
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Further, it's really easy to say 'This has educational and/or scientific merit.' or 'This does not have educational and/or scientific merit.'. It's really, really hard to say 'This is art.' or 'This is not art.'.
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They already do.
...they'll have to stop allowing children, and my kids and their friends will be pissed.
No, they'll just restrict some material to registered adults, like they already do.
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If that really made sense, then they would ban all videos from anyone other than Big Media. (Porn isn't the only thing that someone can object to, you know.)
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YouTube is a censor
Prudery is child abuse with good intentions and anyone who doubts that should be required to stand in a juvenile abortion/pregnancy/STI waiting room and explain why it is that if those young people lived in The Netherlands hardly any of them would be there. Is irrational prejudice against the human body really worth the life of even one young person? This policy is driven by commercial pressures founded on prejudice and myth.
What is even worse, because YouTube has a near monopoly, they are exporting harmful attitudes to the rest of the world.
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YouTube should allow nudity. That is the kind of planet
All of all ages needs to be evaluated by one.
Furry nude art is constantly attached, and we should not stand for it any more, and give loving understanding to the furries,and not hatred at all. That art in all of its complexity should be allowed on youtube of any age depicted even as we see all ages from birth on up in nature before our eyes.
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Furries nude anthropomorphic art is the most art of all
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Furries nude anthropomorphic art is the most beutiful art of all
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Furries nude anthropomorphic art is the most beautiful art of all
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Furries nude anthropomorphic art is the most beautiful art of all
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Youtube is sinning by oppressing the furry nude,and sexual art.
Restore the video gay furry yiff {18+} Apologize to them. They did not harm you. Proverbes 3:30
Morality is not found in hatred.Stop engaging is warfare against furry nakedness, and Yiff sex. War is evil propagating white crosses. Be a peacemaker. Stop bending to hatred which is murder. 1 John 3:15 ,Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.Nakedness is not a sin. Youtube needs to know this. K J V1 Corinthians 11: 14Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. Youtube is banning what is on their own body hating themselves. Youtube needs to accept all the furry art rejecting their religions waring mentality. The long hair is a covering. shame for the man is not being naked. Restore the video gay furry yiff {18+} Apologize to them. They did not harm you. Proverbes 3:30 Strive not with a man without a cause, if he hath done thee no harm. Youtube constantly strives against the furries. Tell me when you humble yourselves apologizing to them
Sent to: YouTube
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Youtube is sinning by oppressing the furry nude,and sexual art.
Did you get that youtube, relieve oppression not give it.
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Youtube is sinning by oppressing the furry nude,and sexual art.
Did you get that Youtube, relieve oppression not give it.
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People against the furry nude, and sexual art are against God who made it
Isaiah 1 >>
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17Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
deleting one video after another is not relieving the oppressed. The videos showing people jumping from a tall building is accepted by YouTube. That is sick.
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Youtube needs to be slapped kicked, and punched for doing the same to the furry videos. Y
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Youtube is admitting that they are allowing all furry videos on youtube.
Sex and Porn Videos are Being Allowed on Youtube
WEBUPON.
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outube is admitting that they are allowing all furry videos on youtube.
Sex and Porn Videos are Being Allowed on Youtube
WEBUPON.
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Youtube does not tolerate the hate of others, but does not consider their own hatred
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Stop making the furry sad. Make the furry glad. Please?
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Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.The furry is a peace seeker. Seek it with them giving the furry Joy.
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Fantastic videos have been spit on by YouTube like Jesus was spit on.
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Fantastic videos have been spit on by YouTube like Jesus was spit on.
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Fantastic videos have been spit on by YouTube like Jesus was spit on.
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"Sex and Porn Videos are Being Allowed on Youtube" "Webupon"
I thought that Youtube was repenting of being a consuming monster chomping of furry videos, and banning harmless loving christlike people that harm no one from youtube. The hater in this instance is Youtube acting like the troll I report doing bad to me and others with Youtube banning the malicious hater. How can Youtube not be equally malicious in their hatred? Youtube is acting like the trolls I report to be banned. YouTube is being unequal. The devil is unequal.
Soon after reading the headline on WEBUPON Youtube treated the nude,nand sexual videos like a marksman shoots clay pidgins. Youtube is a malicious hater of natural things ending up hating their own natural nude sexual body.
People need to start loving their own bodies. When that happens people will stop treating the furry videos like a target at a shooting gallery.
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"Sex and Porn Videos are Being Allowed on Youtube" "Webupon"
I thought that Youtube was repenting of being a consuming monster chomping of furry videos, and banning harmless loving christlike people that harm no one from youtube. The hater in this instance is Youtube acting like the troll I report doing bad to me and others with Youtube banning the malicious hater. How can Youtube not be equally malicious in their hatred? Youtube is acting like the trolls I report to be banned. YouTube is being unequal. The devil is unequal.
Soon after reading the headline on WEBUPON Youtube treated the nude, and sexual videos like a marksman shoots clay pidgins. Youtube is a malicious hater of natural things ending up hating their own natural nude sexual body.
People need to start loving their own bodies. When that happens people will stop treating the furry videos like a target at a shooting gallery.
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The Los Angeles Times reports that YouTube admitted to their mistake in banning Upton's video, which she made with fashion photographer Terry Richardson. The Times published this statement from YouTube about the "Cat Daddy" video: "With the massive volume of videos on our site, sometimes we make the wrong call. When it's brought to our attention that a video has been removed mistakenly, we act quickly to reinstate it."
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Youtube is acting like the lying religious people that were against Jesus, and Lazarus.
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9 places in KJV says the heart figuratively is to be circumcised not the penis tip at all. Deuteronomy 30:6, Deuteronomy 10:16 ;Jeremiah 4:4 , Jeremiah 9:26; Colossians 2:11-15;Acts 7:51;Leviticus 26:41;Romans 2:29, Romans 3, 30, Islamic religious parallels the deceptions of the west. Truth has been hidden in a shroud of darkness.
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9 places in KJV says the heart figuratively is to be circumcised not the penis tip at all. Deuteronomy 30:6, Deuteronomy 10:16 ;Jeremiah 4:4 , Jeremiah 9:26; Colossians 2:11-15;Acts 7:51;Leviticus 26:41;Romans 2:29, Romans 3, 30, Islamic religious parallels the deceptions of the west. Truth has been hidden in a shroud of darkness.
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Youtube is lying to everyone.
K J V Col: 3:9 :Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds. Youtube lies calling furry videos naughty indecent banning them. Furry videos have charity.1 Cor, 13:4. YouTube is offending one of Christs little ones needing to apologize reinstating all of the furry videos. Youtube acts like the hateful wrathful trolls being naughty. James:1 20 - 21, for the wrath of man worketh not the rightiouness of God. Whearfor lay apart all filthyness, and superfluidy of naugtyness.
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Youtube gives nothing that is good being rotten. Proverbs 17: 4,A wicked doer giveth heed to false lips; and a liar giveth ear to a naughty tongue.Jeremiah 24,2,One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that are firt ripe: and the other basket had very naughty figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad. Youtube's banning are like rotten figs; Exstremly unpalatable.Youtube needs to reinstate all or f the furry videos and thjat is a lot of them writing a formal apology to them with a broken and contrite heart. The same in videos doing the same thing. Youtube is still at war with the gay.
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(King James Version)Galatians 3:26-29:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
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If nudity harmed all life would extinguish it's self in a nano second. All of nature is nude. The stability of nature would be as stable as TNT or nitroglycerin.
People need UCS chiropractic care as soon as they are born and maintained by non cavitating Upper cervical specific chiropractors. Upcspine, upper cervical health centers or Specific Chiropractic. Use the UCS DC practitioners to maintain spinal heath.
All life has a soul that has the potential for eternal joy. In Gods Kingdom the more the merrier. Those that are like Jesus is will share in that overflowing joy. Satan wants to give us fear of sex in every way he can.
To give a child guilt about their body is psychological abuse people do not talk about.
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If nudity harmed all life would extinguish itself in a nano second. All of nature is nude. The stability of nature would be as stable as TNT or nitroglycerin.
People need UCS chiropractic care as soon as they are born and maintained by non cavitating Upper cervical specific chiropractors. Upcspine, upper cervical health centers or Specific Chiropractic. Use the UCS DC practitioners to maintain spinal heath.
All life has a soul that has the potential for eternal joy. In Gods Kingdom the more the merrier. Those that are like Jesus is will share in that overflowing joy. Satan wants to give us fear of sex in every way he can.
To give a child guilt about their body is psychological abuse people do not talk about
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If people cannot stand the sight of what is seen how
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Youtube: Stop acting like the trolls against the furries.
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the nude form
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yes. What would unartful nudity be should be the question?
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yes. What would unartful nudity be should be the question?
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All art is artful. What else can it be?
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All things God made are artful. All art is artful. Why reject any?
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People need to accept what is seen.
All art is artful. What else can it be? All of the parts on a living thing are artful. How can a person call them anything else? Google is giving me a problem about an icon that is undoubtedly artful trying to call it something else. Nature is artful, genitals and all. They that are against them are literally aginst themselves. People that are offended by them need to be blinded. God has things in his kingdom that no one has seen. People need to accept what is seen.
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To not allow nudity is to deny that we are nude.
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God did not say to Adam and Eve: I will ban you because you are pornographic.
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How can the deliberate paint strokes that paint genitals not be artistic?
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God would not block
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Artful is in the4 eye of the beholder. Don't be ofende4d by what is seen. God has things in his kingdom that no one has ever seen. Let people post what they want to post. God is a discerner of the heart. That is what people need to be concerned with not the images that show up on the web.
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Artful is in the eye of the beholder. Don't be offended by what is seen. God has things in his kingdom that no one has ever seen. Let people post what they want to post. God is a discerner of the heart. That is what people need to be concerned with not the images that show up on the web.
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Nude cannot be evil to see
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Nudity needs to be allowed everywhere. Wicked people mKe laws against it. There are no. Iblical laws saying thou shalt mot be nude confront of a young person or thou shalt not let a person see nude art.The laws at furry conventions need to change. Idolitirs are .No g the He restrictions laws and anti nudity laws for real and representations of a nude form. God in a person would not care about seeing a nude form real or imagined. Obliterate those laws. unfetter the furry and whoever else.
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They that are against nudity are odolitots.
Nudity needs to be allowed everywhere. Wicked idolitrious people make laws against it. Those idolitrious people are worshiping their clothing. There are 8no Iblical laws saying thou shalt mot be nude in front of a young person or thou shalt not let a person see nude art. The laws at furry conventions need to change. Idolitirs are making the restrictions laws and anti nudity laws for real and representations of a nude form. God in a person would not care about seeing a nude form real or imagined. Obliterate those laws. unfetter the furry and whoever else.
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Nudiry is as natural as you are
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We are ma in Gods nude Image. God would not say don't show it.
We are made, in Gods nude image. There should be no such thing, as allowed. They that are offended, need too blind themselves, plain and simple or repent. Romans 14:10“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.”
King James Version (KJV) Allowed, tries to control, people. We need to control, ourselselves. That, intense, desire, to control, ends up, terrorizing zoosexuals. and nude people, too. People go, into sacrifice mode, when any pedophilia, is mentioned or any, of the others. Fake, Pedophilia, Catholic leaders, and fake, pedophilia Muslims, smile. They, are the things, we need, to reject. Everything else, is a distraction. 1. Vatican Pedophile Ring, Child Trafficking, Mass Graves and ...
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They are not pedophilia people. The word pedophilia comes from the Greek pa??, pa?d?? (paîs, paidós), meaning "child", and f???a (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship".
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We are made, in Gods nude image. There should be no such thing, as allowed. They that are offended, need too blind themselves, plain and simple or repent. Romans 14:10“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.”
King James Version (KJV) Allowed, tries to control, people. We need to control, ourselselves. That, intense, desire, to control, ends up, terrorizing zoosexuals. and nude people, too. People go, into sacrifice mode, when pedophilia, is mentioned or any, of the others. Fake, Pedophilia, Catholic leaders, and fake, pedophilia Muslims, smile. They, are the things, we need, to reject. Everything else, is a distraction. 1. Vatican Pedophile Ring, Child Trafficking, Mass Graves and ...
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They are not pedophilia people. The word pedophilia comes from the Greek pa??, pa?d?? (paîs, paidós), meaning "child", and f???a (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship".
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