FTC Finally Forces FreeCreditReport.com To Be Honest In Its Advertising
from the it-ain't-really-free dept
It's been many years since we first wrote about the scammy services set up by the major credit reporting agencies to pretend to give you your federally guaranteed free credit report. The worst of the bunch has been FreeCreditReport.com, run by Experian, which despite its name, was actually just a way to get people to sign up for costly monthly credit monitoring services. The place to get your real free credit report is AnnualCreditReport.com, but FreeCreditReport.com tricked an awful lot of people into believing it was the real site, leading many to end up paying money (a lot of it) when they just wanted their mandated free report.The FTC has been battling Experian and the other rating agencies for years over this blatantly misleading advertising. The misleading ads have been incredibly lucrative for Experian, who apparently has convinced an astounding 20 million people to sign up for FreeCreditReport, and spends $70 million per year in advertising to get more people to sign up. For all that, the FTC forced Experian to pay a measly $1 million in fines (and refund money to plenty of customers), but you can understand why Experian has kept up its misleading adverising.
However, Experian and the other credit reporting agencies are now required to clearly disclose what's going on, and they're testing much more straightforward messages on their websites. For example, MSNBC reports that some visitors to FreeCreditReport are already seeing a giant gray box at the top of the page with text that reads:
"You have the right to a free credit report from AnnualCreditReport.com ... the only authorized source under federal law,"And, with it, there's a link and a call to action: "Take me to the authorized source."
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Filed Under: credit reports, free credit reports, truth in advertising
Companies: experian, freecreditreport.com, ftc
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Sneaky, in that they still have the warning, but it's much less noticeable now.
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It's about time...
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Sneaky, in that they still have the warning, but it's much less noticeable now.
No, apparently that's the banner they've been using more regularly, but the gray one you see above is the one they're "testing" as they get ready for an April 1 deadline when they need to be a lot clearer.
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Now if only we could get the commercial to follow the pattern in drug commercials - 15 seconds describing the free credit report, and 45 seconds describing the nasty side effects this "free" credit report will have on your wallet.
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ftc.gov
Not sure if they should make it easier to pick out the link.
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it's like "no crash means no sugar crash" (aka you still caffeine crash) and stuff like "not FDA approved" and "this may be dangerous for your health".
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They still make it near impossible
But then they asked me to select credit accounts I have from a list. I didn't recognize any of them. Next they asked me to identify from a list which accounts I have applied for credit with in the past 2 years. None of them rung a bell.
So they said we can't verify you. We will call you. Choose from one of these numbers. I have had my current cell # for about 2 years (switched providers, number didn't port, long story, but I got a new # a few years ago). Of course, it wasn't on the list.
They certainly know my current address and could easily send my requested report to me at my current address. Instead they make you jump through all these "security" hoops that the average person will not be able to answer. My only other option is to send a request via mail (although I don't see how that is more secure, since I still won't know the answer to all their questions).
I won't be paying them, but I would wager that if I DID pay them, it would be a hell of a lot easier to get my credit report.
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The commercials are catchy, humorous, and the musicians in them always look like they're enjoying themselves. All in all, they're pretty fun to watch.
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Are we sure Credit numbers even mean anything?
I have done searches in the past for actual third party, independent studies done to prove that these "credit scores" (that are so central to what interest rates people pay, and who banks will loan money to) actually measure the risk of a loan.
A real study would (I believe) show that credit scores are in reality a terrible measure of risk. They are instead a way for banks, insurance companies, etc. to collude with each other on interest rates, insurance rates, etc.
Obviously if someone has walked away repeatedly from debts, their scores are going to tank and they are a poor risk. But the guy that is late a few times on a payment, (particularly a mortgage payment) or has refused to pay a fraudulent bill or charge isn't necessarily a bad risk.
But I don't think these credit score companies make any real effort to investigate issues like these. It isn't in their interests to do so, as they get paid for their reports regardless of what kind of crap on an individual they are serving up. Banks don't care, because inaccurate reports (they are most certainly never "inaccurate" in favor of the individual) just mean that they charge individuals for being "risky" when in fact they are not (can you say free money?).
The government obviously can't make them do their job. They can't even make them adhere to some basic ethical guidelines (per the story here).
So why do we as citizens allow this farce to continue to soak the public? It isn't anything other than a thinly veiled tax on everyone getting a loan, paid to one, two, or three government sanctioned monopolies, whose product is a means for banks to collude together to jack a significant percentage of the population.
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How exactly are Experian's ad misleading?
Mike, that's a strong statement, but I don't see any justification for it in your post. (Maybe the proof is in some of the linked articles?) How exactly are Experian's ads misleading? Maybe Experian makes it overly difficult to cancel the required subscription service, but that seems to be a separate issue as to whether the actual ads are misleading. But FreeCreditReport.com actually does provide a free credit report.
Are you saying that because they don't tell its customers that the governemnt has a free credit report web site that doesn't have the subscription requirement, their ads are misleading? If that were the case, then every single commercial for bottled water would be misleading because they don't have warnings about how you can get (nearly) free water from your own tap.
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Also, annualcreditreport.com does not give your FICO score for free. The info you get is nice and useful, but the FICO score is what you need. The 3 agencies still hold that hostage for about $7-8 last time I checked.
Next thing FTC should go after is all these cash-for-gold scams. "Send in your gold and for a limited time get %30 more." 30% more than what? It is sad that our species is too stupid to see through this crap.
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If I told you I would wash your car for free, but then when you said OK I said well, you do have to sign this agreement that you will continue to let me wash your car, as well as check your oils and other liquids and you will have to pay me to do so, it's not really free is it? You can back out of it, sure, but you have to come to my house and go through a special obstacle course first, before I will let you out of the contract.
Oh yeah, and there's a kid down the street who will wash your car once a year for really free, but that's not really worth it.
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I don't consider it to be free if I have to buy their service in order to get it, even if it is possible to cancel it later. I don't know of any dictionary that would consider that "free" either. Making it difficult to cancel moves it into the realm of "scam".
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Why wasn't it a .gov address?
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It's About Time
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You must live a very sheltered life to have this definition. There's the literal definition of free and there's the definition that everyone but the most niave understand to mean when they here "free" in the context of an advertisement. When the bank gives you a "free" toaster, they require you to sign up for an account. When the car dealership gives you a "free" ticket to the local professional sports team, they require you to take a test drive first. When the timeshare gives you a "free" weekend, they require you to sit through a seminar. There's no such thing as a free lunch, as they say.
If I told you I would wash your car for free, but then when you said OK I said well, you do have to sign this agreement that you will continue to let me wash your car, as well as check your oils and other liquids and you will have to pay me to do so, it's not really free is it
No, not really. Not literally. But in the context of advertising and the business world, this kind of arrangement is very common. If you're going to pick on Experian, then you'd have to hold every other single company to this same standard.
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Also it's fantastic that for you personal health info is not something you care about. However, you represent approximately 0.0000000014692409430778340298156402694208%* of the world's human population and given the lawsuits and legislation that has gone into protecting personal health info, one would have to be willfully ignorant to claim that it's a lesser invasion of privacy than the collection of financial info.
So that example is not very effective in supporting your claim that the credit agencies should be disbanded.
*Source: http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html
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You may not, but this arrangement is quite common. For example, a popular geneology web site offers two week's "free" access to their archives if you sign up for their service and cancel before the two weeks is over. If you don't, then you get charged. Yes, there are strings attached, but I think almost everyone who sees the word "free" in an add understands that there will be strings.
Making it difficult to cancel moves it into the realm of "scam".
For the sake of argument, let's say that Experian does in fact make it overly difficult to cancel the mandatory subscription. Do you know that this is the reason Mike says the ads are misleading? My point is that if you are going to make such a strong statement, it would be proper to explain the justification in the post rather than relying on the reader to follow the included links or to leave it to the imagination of the reader.
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I'm a credit manager for a electrical distributor and without Experian and other credit report agencies my company would have a hard time extending any credit to any small business. And those trying to start up a small business? Forget it.
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"If you're going to pick on Experian, then you'd have to hold every other single company to this same standard."
I do.
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Now, if they came out and said 'sign up with our monitoring service, and we'll give you a free report,' that would be different. But they don't. Even know it's a low-volume blurb that goes by so fast most aren't certain of what they heard.
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Agreed. But what does that have to do with the topic? I didn't say it was right; I said it wasn't misleading. Unless you're very young or sheltered, you probably know that advertisers exagerate and bend the definition of terms like "free". Is this morally right? No. Are there points where advertisers cross the line? Sure. (Case in point: "unlimited Internet access".) But you can't define "misleading" in absolute terms. It has to be in the context of the understanding of the advertisees.
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No. Do you always jump to wild conclusions?
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Agreed. It's a good thing then that I'm not the only one who has become accustomed to this. Most people of a certain level of experience understand that a bit of stretching the truth in advertising is common practice. It's not just me; it's most of the population of the planet. Also, as I pointed out in another thread, I'm not saying this is right. Sure, in a perfect world, advertisers would be held accountable to the literal truth and there'd be no exageration or hyperbole in ads. But this isn't going to happen. So, feel free to tilt at windmills in your quest for utter truth in advertising while the rest of us lie down and take it. Personally, I think it'd be much more effective to focus in on cases where advertisers cross the line, even if this means there's some subjective debate on where to draw the line.
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Rather than a blanket defence of Experian, my question was merely meant to point out that the justification for Mike's strong statement was not actually included in the main text of the post. There very well could be mitigating circumstances that set Experian apart from your run-of-the-mill exagerations in advertising and warranted the action of the FTC.
I understand that Mike uses links to his previous posts and to other sites as a means to provide additional background on a particular topic. But in my opinion, when you make a statement as strong as he did in the post, you should include the justification for that statement in the main text of the post.
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What is this, some sort of April Fools joke?
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FTC and More Scam Advertising from Medifast
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"The worst part to me is that the whole point of the commercial is to suggest that just knowing your credit score will somehow allow you to afford a better car, cellphone, or place to live."
Actually, this often is the case -- many studies have shown that a large percentage, perhaps a majority, of people have black marks on their credits reports that shouldn't be there (odd that there's never an erroneous GOOD mark on those reports) and their scores are therefore lower than they should be.
Knowing this gives you the opportunity to correct the errors and may very well let you qualify for loans you would otherwise not have qualified for.
Not that anyone should be buying optional goodies with loans, of course. That's a whole 'nother scam.
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In your circumstance, I'd be concerned that you are a victim of identity theft or your file is merged somehow. You should recognize everything from the questions if it is your credit information.
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If you need 100% free credit report
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They also offer credit monitoring, anti fraud alert ...
This it top rated site for credit report.
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