If You're Going To Sue For Patent Infringement, It Helps To Say What Actually Infringes

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Mon, Mar 8th 2010 8:45am — Mike Masnick

Last year, we wrote about a guy, Greg Bender, who holds a patent (5,103,188) on a "buffered transconductance amplifier," that he's decided is infringed upon by pretty much any electronics device. He filed a ton of lawsuits claiming that his patent was infringed on by makers of computers, cell phones, hard drives, DVD players, HDTVs and MRI machines. However, it appears he failed when it came to providing specifics. Joe Mullin points to the news that Bender's lawsuit against Motorola has been dismissed for failing to state a claim. Specifically, the lawsuit was so vague and general that it wasn't clear what he was suing over. In the lawsuit, Bender claimed the following were infringing:

products [including], without limitation, cell phones, computers, network drivers, high definition television sets, ultrasound machines, MRI machines, lab equipment, arbitrary waveform generators, audio amplifiers, video amplifiers, hard disc drives, ADC/DAC converters, DVD-RW players, DSL modems, CCD cameras, satellite communication technology, and other products where high performance, high speed analog circuits are used, and/or components thereof.

With such a broad list, the court noted that no one had any idea what was actually infringing:

Nowhere in the Amended Complaint does Plaintiff identify, with the requisite level of factual detail, the particular product or line of products, that allegedly infringe the '188 Patent. Instead, Plaintiff merely claims that the infringing "products include, without limitation, cell phones, computers . . . and other products where high performance, high speed analog circuits are used, and/or components thereof." [P]laintiff has done nothing more than recite a laundry list of electronic devices. These cursory allegations are insufficient to give the Defendant fair notice of the claims being alleged against it.

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Filed Under: greg bender, patent infringement, patents, vague
Companies: motorola

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Steven (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:12am

Specific?
Why would you need to be specific in a lawsuit if you don't need to be specific in a patent?

On a side note - ADC/DAC converters. I hate it when people use the acronym and then use the last word from the acronym.

NIC card, DVD disk, LCD display... It immediately makes me think the person has no idea what their talking about.
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Brian G., 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:20am

Re: Specific?
I've heard that complaint so many times, and naively, in a vacuum, it makes sense, but we live in a world with so many acronyms and so little clarity of communication, just think of trying to ALWAYS repeat the last letter's word as a kind of checksum on the data compressed in the acronym, and/or so the sentence reads OK even if someone is unfamiliar with acronym...
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Anonymous Coward, 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:28am

Rather, the first time you use it, spell out the entire thing and if you will be using it multiple times thereafter, include the acronym in parenthesis. For instance, my buffered transconductance amplifier (BTA) is a hoax, allowing me to sue people for including the fictitious BTA in any product I feel has money. The fact that a BTA is nonexistent or meaningless should bamboozle the judges who are notorious for being stupid and now knowing what things mean.
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Richard (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:29am

Re: Specific?
NIC card, DVD disk, LCD display...

Its called PINS syndrome (PIN Number Syndrome....Syndrome) :}
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JerryAtrick (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:29am

anyone know?
What are the legalities regarding the movie picture association trying to convince the FCC to allow them to release first run movies directly to the consumer instead of releasing the material to theaters? Is that even legal?
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A Dan (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:34am

Re: Re: Specific?
Your point is especially true for NIC, which can stand for either Network Interface Controller or Card. As in, from Wikipedia, "The most common NIC is the network interface card."
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A Dan (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:35am

Re: anyone know?
Why do you keep posting this? It doesn't make sense, and it's way offtopic.
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Richard (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:37am

Microsoft tactics
It's the same tactics Microsoft are trying on against Linux.

Don't, under any circumstances, come clean about exactly what it is you're suing over because then it will be easy for the defendant to find prior art etc.
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Ima Fish (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 9:46am

A buffered transconductance amplifier? My guess is that it would infringe upon the work of the late Dr. Emmett Brown.
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David Johnson (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 10:03am

Re:
or would it be future?
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Ima Fish (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 10:19am

Re: Re:
Good point!
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The Groove Tiger (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 10:28am

Sounds too me like he holds the patent for his shiny metal ass, and the procedure on how to bite it.
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Jon B., 8 Mar 2010 @ 10:29am

Re: Microsoft tactics
MS doesn't sue. They just issue veiled threats to scare other companies away from using Linux. The reason they don't sue is because they can't state a specific thing, but then enter a 'we promise not to sue' agreement with Sun.
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Comboman, 8 Mar 2010 @ 10:57am

Re: Re: Specific?
ROTFL laughing.
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Anonymous Coward, 8 Mar 2010 @ 11:11am

Re: Specific?
"Why would you need to be specific in a lawsuit if you don't need to be specific in a patent?"

Perhaps you would not need to be specific in a lawsuit if you did not need to be specific in a patent. However, you need to disclose an invention to the level of detail that permits someone else to practice the invention, and your lawsuit has to be sufficiently specific that the nature of the suit can be defended.
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Dan, 8 Mar 2010 @ 12:31pm

Re: Re: Specific?
You can take that one all the way to the ATM Machine.
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Avatar28 (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 4:15pm

maybe obvious?
Call me crazy, but is seems to me that if it is something that so very many varied and disparate devices with no real relationship to each other that whatever the patent is for is either A) so exceedingly obvious that every electronic device on the planet makes use of it or B) something that is inherently part of what makes an integrated circuit possible and, as such, probably goes back to the earliest days of the device and should no longer be covered by patent protection (sort of like how all vertebrates have certain features in common because we all go back to a common ancestor).
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Willton, 8 Mar 2010 @ 5:31pm

Re: maybe obvious?
Call me crazy,

You're crazy. The merits of this particular patent's claimed invention aside, what you fail to notice is the filing date of the patent in question, which is in 1989. What may be commonplace now may not have been commonplace or obvious back in the late 80's or early 90's. It is not fair to judge the obviousness of a claimed invention by what happens after the fact.
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angry dude, 8 Mar 2010 @ 5:51pm

shut up, stupid techdirt punks
patent looks very solid to me (but it's not my field)
It's also very old and already expired

apparently last minute attempt by inventor to collect any money from infringers

well, better late than never...
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enrolled agent exam (profile), 8 Mar 2010 @ 5:56pm

His other invention
Careful, this guy also invented air. We should all do our best not to infringe.
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angry dude, 8 Mar 2010 @ 6:02pm

idiocracy
Idiocracy - the rule of the stupid

That;s what happened to this shitty blog and will soon happen to this entire country

Eat your nuggets and watch the movie, punks
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ethorad (profile), 9 Mar 2010 @ 5:04am

Re: Re: Specific?
Or RAS syndrome (Redundant Acronym Syndrome syndrome)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome
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jsf (profile), 9 Mar 2010 @ 6:39am

Looking at the patent, and having a small knowledge of the subject the lawsuits would need to target analog integrated circuits, not the end products they go into. The patent really covers pretty low level circuit design, not something like an entire MRI system.
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Gene Cavanaughg, 9 Mar 2010 @ 4:48pm

Patent suits without specificity
Excellent article! The problem with Joe Bender is that he doesn't understand how this scam works (common in large entity patenting). You write the patent so that only an "expert" can understand it (all the time claiming that you are meeting the "clear and concise" requirements of the patent law). Now when you vaguely allege something, if you are careful, you will have to hire "experts" at thousands per hour, for hundreds of hours. With care, you don't even need an invention; just a patent.
That's why I do small entity patenting - you have to have an invention, and it will be described so clearly that "experts" are not needed - so, if you do have to go to court, and hopefully that won't happen with so much clarity,
you will be out a few thousand - and if I did MY job right, you will win (I don't help people "work" the system).
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me262, 23 May 2010 @ 11:25pm

Microsoft has done the same thing.
Microsoft has used this tactic before, a few years ago. Claiming that Linux and a number of other open source applications infringe on some 247 copyrights, but they never specified what these are, and given that Microsoft holds so many, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack.
What MS was successful in doing, was to generate enough FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) that it scared a number of companies to sign agreements with them (LG, and others) so if the infringements ever came to court (which it never will), they would not be affected.
These scare tactics are despicable.
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