LimeWire Sued Again... How Many Times Does The Industry Want To Kill It?
from the adding-lawsuit-to-injunction dept
The RIAA is still fighting to force LimeWire to shut down completely after its legal win over the company. Given the nature of the initial ruling, it seems pretty likely that LimeWire is fighting a losing battle. Recently lots of folks were discussing the ridiculous damages that the RIAA is claiming LimeWire owes. On top of that, however, it looks like the music publishers have decided to pile on as well, and have filed a separate copyright infringement lawsuit against LimeWire. Honestly, this seems like it's just for the sake of vanity, or to be able to primp and preen for its members about how it's "doing something." The initial lawsuit will almost certainly kill off Limewire as a company. This new lawsuit can't kill it again. It's just a waste of time and money. Meanwhile, LimeWire users will have just moved on and will continue sharing files.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Filed Under: copyright, file sharing, lawsuits
Companies: limewire, nmpa, riaa
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I not be joinin in the mutiny! I be one ta see this down ta da bitter end!
Ye laws be overpowerin' but we be a resilient lot! We go ta greener pastures and findin' da better music with ones not worried with turnin' the world to criminals for data!
Try again, ya one eyed wallop!
YAAARGH!
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This Capt'n's with ye matey!
AARRRR!
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add to that the number of proxy services that are available which are now lowering prices to lure an influx of new users scarred by industry warning letters.
short of massive government intervention file sharing will never stop.
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Massive government intervention will only cause the file transfer systems to become more secure and less visible. Massive government intervention will lead to jail time, with 40% of the population of the US downloading 1 movie or more a month, and untold numbers of mp3's its a loosing battle that cant be won just from the perspective of imprisonment. If they begin fining people it will lead to a massive back lash. Fining people or implementing 3 strikes will lead to a backlash against ISP's, politicians, and the labels and studios.
No matter what they do the end result is the same, media price approaching or equal to zero, large corporations being priced out of the market due to the financial overhead on large corporations, smaller companies taking the place of larger ones for content creatition.
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you're not thinking big enough. the US has invaded countries for natural resources, what about invasions to stop copyright infringement?
http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_After_the_Siege.html
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Timely...
It's *very* late where I am, and I was just clearing up a few things. I thought I'd check out a couple of videos from when I was at the Sonar festival in Barcelona a couple of years ago, and one of the acts there was Detroit Techno legend Jeff Mills. Among the related videos was a project I'd never heard of before - apparently, a few years ago, Mills did a live concert with a live orchestra (whose parts he arranged himself) named Blue Potential.
The *full* DVD is available at the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wPbNf1jhzM&NR=1
It's fantastic. 2 hours ago, I didn't know this existed. Now, I've bought the DVD and I'm looking forward to seeing it on a big screen in decent quality. That's the lesson - create interesting, quality music instead of homogenised crap and people will buy.
My only regret now is that I wasn't at that concert. YouTube is technically responsible for "piracy", but how do you buy a DVD you don't know exists? Here's to independent music...
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they should call me, I'm a great lawyer!
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Content...
The funny thing is that I discourage others from doing this sort of thing (bittorrent) because of its inherent dangers to both the user and the users' computer. My clients tend to listen, but for a few that don't, and don't practice safe internet sex with the files they pull in, they pay the price.
Limewire is just one flavor of many capable software applications to meet the demand. I feel that what really needs to happen to the RIAA and the MPAA, is that the courts need to start charging these @ssholio corporations for these types of 'rinse and repeat' lawsuits. They're trying to flog a virtual corpse for gods sake!
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How is there any more "inherent" danger to a computer in using file sharing networks than there is in downloading from a web site? An EXE can be infected no matter where it's from. By the same token, downloading media files, such as MP3, AVI, etc, poses no more danger to a computer when downloaded from a P2P network than if it's downloaded from anywhere else.
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Usually when you download content from the web from someone reputable, the file has been provided by a company or someone who took measures to make sure the file was in good shape. IE -Scanned and tested for Viruses, malware and the sort.
File sharing networks expose files to the average Joe's hard drive, and as such, are subject to the average Joe's security practices. We all know someone who claims or claimed never to need virus/malware protection, and all it takes is one of these people to re-seed an infected file.
Though I know there are rare examples companies unknowingly posting a file, or distributing something infected, This happens far less than what you get from the public via file sharing. You cannot honestly say that you have never downloaded something from Bit-torrent that was infected with something fun. :)
I choose to get the bulk of what I download by legitimate means (Software, drivers, media, etc.). When I decide to play Russian roulette, My preferred method to get my cargo matey, is not the usual file sharing method. Its faster and safer, and that's all I am going to say.
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Usually when you download content from the web from someone reputable, the file has been provided by a company or someone who took measures to make sure the file was in good shape. IE -Scanned and tested for Viruses, malware and the sort.
File sharing networks expose files to the average Joe's hard drive, and as such, are subject to the average Joe's security practices. We all know someone who claims or claimed never to need virus/malware protection, and all it takes is one of these people to re-seed an infected file.
Though I know there are rare examples companies unknowingly posting a file, or distributing something infected, This happens far less than what you get from the public via file sharing. You cannot honestly say that you have never downloaded something from Bit-torrent that was infected with something fun. :)
Yes, but you're comparing downloading legitimate copies of programs from legitimate sources to downloading pirated/cracked copies of programs/games. Any pirated program carries a risk, whether you download it from a P2P network, newsgroups or the web. I mean if you're going to go on a forum and download the latest version of Photoshop from a set of Rapidshare links, you have the same chances of getting a virus as you do if you get it through BitTorrent. The fact that a pirated program is on a file sharing network doesn't make it any more risky than anywhere else, and getting pirated programs from others sources isn't necessarily any safer than getting them with P2P.
Also, if a user sticks to only downloading data files, such as music and movies, there's no risk at all. Well, they should probably avoid WMV/ASF/WMA files, but that's good advice no matter what (unless they come from a known legit source). :)
I choose to get the bulk of what I download by legitimate means (Software, drivers, media, etc.). When I decide to play Russian roulette, My preferred method to get my cargo matey, is not the usual file sharing method. Its faster and safer, and that's all I am going to say.
I also have a different preferred method for such stuff, which is faster and (legally) safer. Downloading randomly posted programs is still a risk though. I've gotten older games that were fine and recent programs that were infected. :)
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sorry mike, you booted this story as well. you have a pretty low batting average this week.
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Injunctions
See also:
http://legalmatch.typepad.com/intellectualproperty/2010/06/limewire-lawsuit-courts-struggle -to-keep-pace-with-technology.html
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Corberlaw- Are you the dumbest attorney ?
Second it is totally against the code of ethics to speak to the company about representation when you know they have representation.
The average person may not know this but if you are licensed then you should know that.
Three if you really wanted to help you'd find someone sued by the industry and do their case.
What is your state and bar number? You seem to be a fraud.
Mine is Texas - #07043340 Steve Fischer
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Stupid.
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If it is a beast go after it
It is a shame these companies may take the money from those that deserve it by begining the end of the Beast. There are more Beasts to slay.
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Frostwire works just fine
Any others besides frostwire that are as good?
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