French Data Protection Agency Says Three Strikes Is Allowed
from the and-we're-off... dept
France's "three strikes" Hadopi program was originally supposed to go into effect in January (technically, it did...), but concerns about how this conflicted with European and French data privacy laws resulted in holding off on actually enforcing the law. However, it looks like the French data protection agency has reviewed the law and is now allowing three strikes enforcement to proceed. Apparently, now Hadopi is going to start sending out notices by the end of the month. We had already noted that since the law went into effect (even if enforcement hadn't started), file sharing had increased in France (much of it through channels not covered by Hadopi), so we'll see what happens now that enforcement begins. And, we're still wondering will anyone actually buy more music?Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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It depends
This is already a historical event if you look at sweden. If there is an increase in music and movie advertising at the same time or before this is actually implemented then yes for a short period people will buy more content. If there is no increase in advertising then there will be no increase.
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From a purely financial perspective, the amount they need to spend on advertising, to sell the same amount of product, has been increasing. I havent looked at the advertising cost -vs- profit curve for music recently but it wouldnt surprise me if it cost more to advertise than they will make back in the profit off of sales.
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Is this increase due to the law enforcement, or because of the increase in advertising?
Because...you know, that's what advertising is for. Increasing customers.
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When will the big government listen to the economists that tell them about bad ideas?
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What I was pointing out was that, it is getting to or has passed the point where the record labels can make money by advertising. It costs more to advertise than they make back. That is country dependant, spain, and south korea, china, have already passed the point, most others are going to be there in a staggered pattern over the next couple years.
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First, a mail is sent to you as a warning
Second, a real mail is sent
Last, you're summoned for trial.
However, here's the trick : there is a database system, lasting 6 months. After 6 months, the database is cleared. Also, it's set up to find at most 600 000 different persons within those 6 months.
If I'm not wrong, there are about 48M internet users. In other words, slim chance of being warned thrice.
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No matter who you are, you can always benefit from more (effective) exposure. It's up to the record labels to actual use the options that are cost efficient.
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Selective Enforcement
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everyone should turn off there net for a few months
P.S. WHAT ever you paid to ISP DO NOT SPEND IT ANYWHERE
just save it. THATS HOW YOU GET EVEN WITH MORONS IN GOVT.
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Still, if you could manage it quickly and relatively anonymously, then you might find a few people doing it. Depends how likely you are to be caught, and how much effort it is.
The model breaks down in that you can only be physically present in one shop, but can download from many sources at once
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But you can still only download at XMb/s, whether it be one file or one hundred.
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Of course, as usual, you don't.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9178128/HP_partners_with_Yahoo_for_targeted_ads
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It's when those economists start giving bigger kickbacks than corporate lobbyists.
Did I get it right?
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How can you defend yourself ?
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