Verizon Wireless Fined $25 Million For Bogus Fees... But May Have Still Made Out Profitably
from the doing-the-math dept
A few weeks back, Verizon finally admitted what the press had reported for years (and which Verizon Wireless had denied for years): that it had erroneously charged 15 million customers $1.99/month fees for supposedly accessing data on their phones, even though many had specifically declined to allow data services on their phones. At the time, Verizon Wireless said it would pay back "up to $90 million." The FCC noted that it wasn't satisfied with this response, and now it's come out that Verizon Wireless will also pay a $25 million fine to the federal government over these actions. That's separate from paying back customers, but the amount Verizon Wireless will have to pay seems to be shrinking. The original report was "up to" $90 million, but now people are saying "a minimum" of $50 million in refunds. So, it's still possible it'll pay $90 million in refunds, but it seems unlikely.Of course, as Broadband Reports points out, something in the math doesn't make sense. This apparently went on for 2 to 3 years and impacted 15 million customers. While not every customer was charged the fee every month, many claim they did see it pretty much every month. So, start doing the math. Even if we assume that, say, one third of the users saw it every month for just one year and the rest saw it only once, we're already talking $90 million. But if it's true that many of them saw it for multiple years, and even if you throw in the $25 million fine, it sounds like Verizon Wireless could come out ahead in the end... Oh, and in case you were wondering, Karl Bode confirmed that no one at the FCC audited Verizon Wireless's estimates for how many people were charged this fee, so it's going on faith that Verizon Wireless -- who for years denied this fee existed -- is telling the truth about how many times it was charged.
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This is my shocked face
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Mass crime pays. Steal $2 in person, jail likely.
My thought is to throw every likely Verizon exec into jail (without paying much attention to fine points: if a corporate officer, they're corporately guilty); it's the only measure that's ever effective against theft on any scale.
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In the U.K. Virgin is being shamed by BT for selling a 100Mb/s for $75 bucks when they price theirs at $40, but 50 Mb/s on Verizon costs just $144 LoL
The U.S. is a third word on this front I'm afraid.
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This is sorta like the Laffer curve rehashed. The government makes it OK for you to scam the public so long as they get a cut. If they charge too much in fines hardly anyone would scam the public and so the govt will receive very few scam fees. If they charged too little they wouldn't receive very much in scam fees either, despite the fact that now everyone is scamming the public. They have to find that sweet spot that maximizes scam fees.
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Corporation steals millions: pays a fine that is less than what they make in a week, and goes on with business as usual.
God bless America.
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Re: Mass crime pays. Steal $2 in person, jail likely.
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Being planless is good
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501(c)(1) Corporations Organized Under Act of Congress (including Federal Credit Unions)
501(c)(2) Title Holding Corporation for Exempt Organization
501(c)(3) Religious, Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety, to Foster National or International Amateur Sports Competition, or Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations
501(c)(4) Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees
501(c)(5) Labor, Agricultural, and Horticultural Organizations
501(c)(6) Business Leagues, Chambers of Commerce, Real Estate Boards, etc.
501(c)(7) Social and Recreational Clubs
501(c)(8) Fraternal Beneficiary Societies and Associations
501(c)(9) Voluntary Employees Beneficiary Associations
501(c)(10) Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations
501(c)(11) Teachers' Retirement Fund Associations
501(c)(12) Benevolent Life Insurance Associations, Mutual Ditch or Irrigation Companies, Mutual or Cooperative Telephone Companies, etc.
501(c)(13) Cemetery Companies
501(c)(14) State-Chartered Credit Unions, Mutual Reserve Funds
501(c)(15) Mutual Insurance Companies or Associations
501(c)(16) Cooperative Organizations to Finance Crop Operations
501(c)(17) Supplemental Unemployment Benefit Trusts
501(c)(18) Employee Funded Pension Trust (created before June 25, 1959)
501(c)(19) Post or Organization of Past or Present Members of the Armed Forces
501(c)(21) Black lung Benefit Trusts
501(c)(22) Withdrawal Liability Payment Fund
501(c)(23) Veterans Organization (created before 1880)
501(c)(25) Title Holding Corporations or Trusts with Multiple Parents
501(c)(26) State-Sponsored Organization Providing Health Coverage for High-Risk Individuals
501(c)(27) State-Sponsored Workers' Compensation Reinsurance Organization
501(c)(28) National Railroad Retirement Investment Trust
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Corporate Welfare
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Flawed math
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Now I know I'm making a lot of assumptions and don't have actual numbers but It's pretty easy to see that it wouldn't take much for them to still have made a nice profit from scamming customers.
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File the lawsuit and them ask for every customer bill (names excluded of course) for the past 15 years. That by itself should be worth $100 million.
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Funds for a Verizon Prepaid
Do I qualify? 714-328-24.. Please contact me.
Thank-you, Ann
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Former Employee
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follies,,,so please, keep re electing the same thieving politicians you keep re electing time and time again even the crack users,, great job folks
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Coorporate Greed Continues
They pay their own employees weak, then rip them off with fake charge backs and coruption among its higher managing group.
Do yourselves a favor ..do not get Verizon Wireless...they treat thier own employees like dirt and they are ripping you off any chance they get.
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