Are US Scientists More Likely To Fake Research?
from the need-more-data dept
Yeebok Shu'in points us to a report claiming that US scientists are "significantly more likely to publish fake research." Of course, from the writeup, it's not actually clear if that's true. The study involved going through PubMed and looking at every paper that had been withdrawn between 2000 and 2010. There are two reasons why such papers are withdrawn: due to an error or due to fraud. The study did find that the largest number of retracted papers had someone from the US as their first author... but nowhere does it say what the percentage of the overall papers in PubMed are published by US authors. So it's hard to say, just from what's been reported, if US researchers are really more likely to withdraw papers. Honestly, for a scientific publication, the article is a bit weak in leaving out the details. It's entirely possible that the rest of the data is in the actual report, but Science Daily's writeup doesn't provide enough info.The one stat it provides that is interesting is that 53% of the research withdrawn for fraud came from repeat offenders, while only 18% of the papers withdrawn for errors came from repeat offenders. Given the overall numbers, this actually suggests that fraud really isn't all that prevalent. A total of 243 papers overall were found as fraudulent over a ten year period, which represents about two per month. Perhaps that seems like a lot but given the number of scientific papers published that actually seems relatively low. Perhaps too low to read too much into the details.
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Are US Scientists more likely to fake research?
My research shows yes, they are more likely to fake research. And you can trust me because I'm not a US scientist. *toothpaste smile*
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I think this study is in dire need of additional research as it apparently focused upon only one journal - PubMed. I'm no expert, but I would imagine there are many more journals out there. Some of these other journals might even be devoted to science other than the medical field, imagine that.
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Not sure, but Global Warming is an international fraud
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I wonder...
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Don't forget the tobacco industry.
Main problem is that MONEY CORRUPTS EVEN SCIENTISTS. They're frequently PAID to produce particular results. -- That's self-evident from common knowledge, and is not refuted by this or any study. -- But corruption never figures into the calculations of economists, so all they produce is fantasy that's not applicable to the real world.
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Re: Not sure, but Global Warming is an international fraud
Don't forget to check under your bed for communists because I hear they're bringing them in by the UFO load to Area 51 and there's another rumour that they've finally succeeded in converting the entire Bigfoot community to communism as well.
The topic, I believe, is scientific fraud, not conspiracy theory.
Personally I think saying "it's only 2 fraudulent papers a month" is like saying "Well it's only 2 defective airplanes a month". A lot of people may be depending on those papers to make important decisions, sometimes life critical ones. It's like having "only 2 bad teachers", over time they can screw up a whole lot of people.
But by all means, feel free to try and change the subject from discussing science to your favorite subject, conspiracies against you and why scientists worldwide are conspiring to hide the evidence that the earth is only 6,500 years old or that climate isn't changing or that Elvis is still in charge of the shadow government or whatever it is.
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Re: Re: Not sure, but Global Warming is an international fraud
So yes, it is a fraud. Just follow the trail of money and power.
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As a scientist
PubMed, as previously commented on, is not a 100% comprehensive list of scientific research papers. It only deals with biology-related fields. I'd be interested to know what the fraud stats are like in other fields, like physics, astronomy, etc.
A second point is the representation the US plays. If labs in the US are a bigger percentage of PubMed contributors than labs from the next biggest contributing country, then of course by probability alone there will be more fraudulent papers from the US.
I am intrigued by the claim that frauds are more likely to come from repeat offenders. On the one hand, such offenders will tend to weed themselves out over time. More disturbing is the fact that frauds tend to appear in high-impact factor journals which are more visible and highly cited. The obvious concern is that because these journals are so influential, a fraud may send dozens of labs down the wrong path, wasting millions of dollars. The South Korean cloning scandal highlights this issue.
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I think this is pretty damning evidence. Why do they have the opportunity to continue publishing crap?
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What about the "error" piece?
"Those who acknowledge problems with their experiments are also more likely to be 'consistently honest,' the study shows."
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faking
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Psuedoscience practiced
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US prestige
One reason US scientists will likely be at the forefront of research papers is their 'prestige' value. Quite simply, I believe it has been found (through studies) that publications are more likely to accept Western names, and particularly Western (especially US) scientists, so they may be over-represented as the 'lead' name.
Secondly, the US probably spends more on research than most of the rest of the world, even put togetherr.
Thirdly, US scientists will most likely be picked up in a US-based system. I doubt PubMed publishes a lot of articles in Latvian or Urdu. But an educated, English-speaking European or Asian researcher will likely pick an American journal to publish in, for maximum exposure.
BTW, all those debating climate change, don't you know that it is 'faked' by the same conspirators who 'pretend' the world is more than 6,500 years ok, who fake evidence of evolution and the expansion of space, and who are taking turns hiding Elvis in their labs? They even reached out and edited those photos from space to pretend the Earth is a curved sphere, not a disk! Don't they have the most amazing reach?
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