Musical Chairs At The Major Record Labels

from the down-with-the-ship dept

The one thing that the major record labels could really use at this point is an injection of new blood from folks who actually understand technology and where the market is headed. There are a few such folks out there, but they seem few and far between. Instead, it appears that the major labels are simply playing musical chairs at the top. Hypebot has this rather ridiculous report of some ongoing shifts among major label management:
At the same time, Doug Morris, out as Universal Music's CEO, but still its figurehead chairman until the end of 2011, is negotiating an early release so that he can run Sony when CEO Rolf Schmidt-Holtz's tenure ends in April. Along with Morris some of his top lieutenants could reportedly jump ship as well.

If that weren't change enough, Barry Weiss, recent chief of Sony’s RCA/Jive, is talking to Universal Music where he would oversee Universal Motown Republic Group and Island Def Jam. Who is being tapped to replace Weiss at Sony? Strong rumors have the job going to Tom Whalley, who was recently forced out at Warners.
Doug Morris, of course, is the guy who publicly announced to the world that he was too clueless to understand modern technology or business models. Actually, he admitted he was so clueless he didn't even know enough to hire people who could help him. And he still kept his job after that. I still can't quite fathom how any board of directors allows such a CEO to remain in place. And I'm curious as to what Sony is thinking in now hiring someone who has publicly said that he's completely unprepared to deal with the modern challenges of the market. But, of course, since all of these execs are simply swapping seats, it's just an insider's club where they pat each other on the back as the companies they lead continue to fail to adapt.
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  1. icon
    The eejit (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:12am

    I wonder what music they use for their game? IS it the ringing of tills, or Eminem's Fight Music?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  2. identicon
    Pixelation, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:14am

    Legislate their future

    Why should they worry about the future of their business when they are likely to end up in the Obama administration?

    "it's just an insider's club where they pat each other on the back as the companies they lead continue to fail to adapt. "

    Sound familiar? Need I mention ACTA?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  3. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:18am

    In other news angry young female moose with a whole bunch of others are preparing to revolt in Canada.

    Don't we love how the high echelon is clueless about everything that goes on the day to day of normal people?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:20am

    I believe you are right, the government it is corrupted to its core, no one is going to clean up all those ex-executives from the federal branches that easily.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    Yogi, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:27am

    Fat

    They have so much fat from the years in which they ripped off both the artists and the consumers, that they can afford to be mismanaged.

    Of course, now that they have basically gained control of the Obama Administration, they can hand the keys over to Mickey Mouse because the results will be the same: transfer of taxpayer money directly to the their coffers. Now, you have to admit that is one hell of a business model, if you can afford it.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. icon
    Overcast (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:38am

    You know - anymore, I'd love to just see these old labels die and make room for some new music production organizations.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. icon
    Richard (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:39am

    Re:

    Presumably the music stops when some files a DMCA takedown.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  8. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:46am

    and yet both they and the artists they promote are still millionaires or better so who cares?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  9. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:50am

    The music probably is this one "Complete History Of The Soviet Union, Arranged To The Melody Of Tetris.

    ps: At around 4:58 you can here the part they love it.
    Also the part of rejecting free enterprise is hilarious.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  10. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:53am

    Re:

    Yes, who does this Masnick the Masnick pretender think he is talking about millionaires without permission! The bare-faced cheek of the man!!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  11. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:54am

    and yet both they and the artists they promote are still millionaires or better so who cares?


    That was the funniest comment ever.

    ps: Why I can't respond, everytime click on the "reply to this" it goes back to the comments. (scripts are disabled here)

    link to this | view in thread ]

  12. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:54am

    "Doug Morris, of course, is the guy who publicly announced to the world that he was too clueless to understand modern technology or business models. "

    Sounds like this guy is vying for a role in Government. Maybe once Chuck Grassley retires.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  13. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 6:57am

    Presumably the music stops when some files a DMCA takedown.


    That reminded me of "The day the music died".
    I trully believe it was when they invented the DMCA and takedown notices.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  14. icon
    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 7:04am

    Re:

    How many promoted artists are millionaires?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  15. icon
    fogbugzd (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 7:13am

    Deck Chairs

    This reminds me of the expression "Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic."

    link to this | view in thread ]

  16. icon
    Richard (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 7:36am

    Re:

    "nd yet both they and the artists they promote are still millionaires or better so who cares?"

    Robert Mugabe is a millionaire in charge of a collapsing state. Should the fact that he is a millionaire mean that we don't care about what happens to Zimbabwe?

    (Or did you just forget the sarcmark?)

    link to this | view in thread ]

  17. icon
    Richard (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 7:38am

    Re: Deck Chairs

    But then again the Titanic is a big ship - so who cares....

    link to this | view in thread ]

  18. icon
    Capitalist Lion Tamer (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 7:40am

    Throwing more metaphors on the fire...

    I think they believe that if they swap people around enough times that some sort of wormhole will develop allowing them to return to 1991.

    Of course, it may also be some overly intricate three-card monte where artists concentrate on all the job-swapping as the labels continue to double-or-nothing their potential royalties away.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  19. identicon
    Not an electronic Rodent, 26 Jan 2011 @ 7:50am

    Perhaps late to the party

    This has probably been discussed at Techdirt before but I'm relatively new here and haven't seen much more than allusions to something that sort of formed in my mind from various floating bits of discussion late at night.

    The thing that occurred to me is what I saw as a problem with Mike's cwf+rtb models at least as applied to (and fromt he point of view of) companies like the major record labels:
    I'm not convinced that *any* business model can be found that would keep them making money at the rate they expect and certainly not to grow as they expect.

    I have always detested the buggy-whip analogy as far too trite but I'm going to use a similar comparison here (if anyone knows a better indusrty analogy.....).
    It seems to me that the advent of MP3 is a paradigm shift in music in the same way the internal combustion engine was for transport.
    The engine took horses from being a central part of every day life to being a luxury that you could do without. In the course of that the blacksmith/farrier, a central character in a town or village evolved into a specialist serving a niche market.
    The recording industry sprang up because of the neccessity of physical media - it made sense because of the difficulty to have a central skilled entity to do that (in the same way the neccessity of having horseshoes combined with the skill needed to make one made a farrier vital to transport).

    Except mp3 on the internet changed that. The music is "freed" from the constraint of physical devices and distribution. Digital music combined with the way the internet works means that actual distribution is no longer necessary in any way and distribution (or at least managing distribution) is one of the prime functions of a label (or film production company for that matter). Because technology allows any digital content to become ubiquitous almost instantly (and I'm not talking about accessible in one place from everywhere I'm talking about accessible *everywhere* from everywhere), one of the prime reasons for labels vanishes.

    Even the other major function of labels and distributors - marketing and promotion - is not nearly so vital. The increased social contact online among massive groups of people making word-of-mouth seriously effective and instant access to the product to fulfil a "whim" interest mean there are alternatives that can be used to good effect without a massive investment

    For that reason I can't see how any business model no matter how clever can allow those companies to continue at their present levels with much of their raison d'etre eroded. That's not to say I can't see there still being loads of money to be made in the space - I could perhaps see them evolving into niche specialised promotional companies for "high end" digital product where the content creators want more agressive marketing than can be acheived otherwise. But that is a service-oriented approach rather than the gatekeeper model of now and is unlikely to command the monetary value and control afforded now. It would of course have the benfit of shifting control back where it ought to be - with the creators.

    In the context of this article I wonder if the reason the CEO's seem to behave in such a blinkered manner is because there *is* no answer? Do they perhaps realise that the flood washed away the foundations on which the business is built and now they are on shifting sand? Time to think about sacrificing the east wing of the house to do some underpinning before the whole roof comes in?

    I'm sure there will be many dissenting opinions out there as well as many denials and insults. I welcome the dissenting opinions because mine is based on outside observation (objective maybe?) rather than industry knowledge. Or you could just ignore me rambling on a wednesday afternoon because I've lost the will to live with the proposal I'm writing.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  20. icon
    fogbugzd (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:03am

    Re: Perhaps late to the party

    I think you have pretty well summarized the last five years of TD in one post. Everything you are saying sounds pretty obvious to most people outside the recording industry. Industry executives and their paid operatives don't seem to get it however. As Upton Sinclair said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

    link to this | view in thread ]

  21. identicon
    Not an electronic Rodent, 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:10am

    Re: Throwing more metaphors on the fire...

    wormhole will develop allowing them to return to 1991
    Wouldn't that have to involve an increase in velocity of change? Can we therefore expect them to move again next month, then a week after that? In 2 or 3 months they'll be but a blur of imaginary motion and then the earth will get sucked into the hole after them... bummer!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  22. icon
    Hephaestus (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:10am

    Re:

    " I'd love to just see these old labels die and make room for some new music production organizations."

    Its less than five years before the final three fail. With EMI out of the picture, and their catalog now in limbo, its only a matter of time. No record label can pick up the catalog, as it would add to much debt and accelerate the failure of that company. If one of the final three does pick up the catalog, the math says thats the next label to fail.

    Determining which of the final three labels will fail next is based on debt to earnings ratio. The lower the debt to earnings the less likely that company will fail next. The problem is that the number is above 50% no matter which label picks up the catalog. 60%,72%,85% +-5%

    When you get to the final two the numbers for who will fail first if they buy the combined catalogs jump to 88%, and 98%. Again depending on debt to earnings of the purchaser.

    If the catalog is split between the final three or final two it doesn't change the timeline of when they will fail, just who fails first. And that again is based on debt to earnings.

    Here is the kicker. If no one picks up the catalog it devalues the remaining companies catalogs and accelerates the failure of the final three. So they are between a rock and a seriously hard place here.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  23. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:14am

    Re: Deck Chairs

    The Titanic cost millions of dollars. And only millionaires were allowed on it. So who cares?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  24. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:16am

    Re: Throwing more metaphors on the fire...

    If the keep swapping around fast enough, it will cause the earth's rotation to increase, until it's spinning so fast it looks like a....... like a....... LIKE A CD!!!!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  25. icon
    Hephaestus (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:20am

    Re: Re:

    "88%, and 98%"

    sorry thats 88% +-4%, and 94% +-2%.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  26. identicon
    coldbrew, 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:21am

    Re: Perhaps late to the party

    I think most people would agree with what you wrote, in general, as most of it has been assumed for a long time (even in the usenet days). These label businesses are large enough to look at adjacent markets as opportunities. The oft mentioned specifics of merchandising and touring make the most sense. I know a local label that started a travel company to help fans with transportation/ accommodations to shows for the bands they represent. They could look to acquire something like Zazzle or Cafepress, as well (not sure it would make sense to them). A good manager would obviously look to optimize and reduce costs. I'm guessing most of the c-level folk are from the marketing side rather than operations.

    I've heard the disruptive nature of the internet characterized as a "massive of destruction of wealth," and you'll find no shortage of pissed off people trolling these comments to find that quite apt.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  27. identicon
    KINGBOOLA, 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:23am

    INTERESTING ASSESSMENT. SAME OL OL BOY NETWORK AS USUAL AT THE HELM

    link to this | view in thread ]

  28. identicon
    Greg G, 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:27am

    Re: Perhaps late to the party

    Very well said. Too bad the *AA's don't see it this way.

    And on a side note... damn you! You've made me want to go get a Dogfish Head Raison D'etre and I have to wait until after work!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  29. identicon
    Phil, 26 Jan 2011 @ 9:03am

    Fiddling

    This is Nero Fiddling while Rome burns.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  30. icon
    The Groove Tiger (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 10:20am

    Re: Re: Perhaps late to the party

    I believe the problem with the big labels is that they're not interested in providing a service to musicians. They never have, not that way. It's always been the musicians who have worked for the labels. They're interested in keeping the status quo: we own you and your band, you go out there and make us some money.

    Changing that paradigm would require a big reorganization, reduction in scope. No longer are they the traders and the musicians the commodity. Might as well just start over.

    Smaller labels are more like agents, maybe. Or managers. They have a job, and the bands hire their services. Those are more likely to shift from printing plastic discs to helping organise concerts and stuff.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  31. icon
    Sean T Henry (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 11:34am

    Re: Re:

    So the music never has the chance to start?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  32. identicon
    Anonymous, 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:00pm

    A new breed of co/exec is coming...

    Check out this interview for a great example of the new record business and the new type of label that will emerge on top
    http://musicians.about.com/b/2010/09/01/qa-with-jeff-libby-of-expat-records.htm

    link to this | view in thread ]

  33. icon
    Hephaestus (profile), 26 Jan 2011 @ 8:05pm

    Re: Re: Perhaps late to the party

    " They could look to acquire something like Zazzle or Cafepress, as well (not sure it would make sense to them)."

    Anytime an old school content corporation aquires or gains any sort of control over any web site. It kills it. The record labels, News corp, etc. Its why Hulu is going to be short lived. The content types do not learn from their mistakes and can not reinvent themselves.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  34. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 27 Jan 2011 @ 7:55am

    Re:

    better so who cares about piracy?

    There, fixed that for you

    link to this | view in thread ]


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