Japanese Government Study Shows Anime 'Piracy' Could Boosts Sales
from the but-but-but-piracy! dept
Just as a whole bunch of folks have been sued in one of these mass copyright infringement shakedown lawsuits over sharing of Funimation anime, it seems worth pointing out that a new Japanese government study on the impact of unauthorized file sharing of anime has concluded that unauthorized copies of anime often appear to increase DVD sales. The study looked at both videos showing up on YouTube as well as those that appeared on Winny, the super popular file sharing platform in Japan. The study found a very strong impact from YouTube -- even saying that it appears many people learn about potential anime DVDs by watching the videos on YouTube first. With Winny, the impact wasn't as strong, and could decrease rental income, but did not decrease DVD sales. Of course, the study only looks at the correlation of videos appearing online and sales, rather than proving any causal link, so it's possible that other variables are involved. At the very least, though, this study (which is similar to other studies we've seen) certainly suggests that having the video widely available doesn't kill off sales, as many industry folks insist.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Try Before You Buy
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Japan != US
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I don't really buy this
I did watch one thing on Youtube a couple years ago that actually sounded like a great idea to make money from downloaded shows. I can't find the link, otherwise I'd post it, but what the guy said was, just put an advertisement logo in the corner. Something small and unobtrusive, but it would work. He put in the Nike swoosh logo on an episode of a popular tv show. Get the advertisers to pay for the show: the more popular it is, the more it is downloaded, the more the show's producers could then charge for advertising. And all of that without the end users worrying about litigation or their conscience getting in the way.
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And let us not forget
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I am careful where I buy it from though, Forbidden Planet has the best selection of any High Street shop but the prices are frankly ridiculous.
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this study (which is similar to other studies we've seen) certainly suggests that having the video widely available doesn't kill off sales, as many industry folks insist.
One of these things, is not like the other. One of these things...
Mike, don't you think if rental income drops that it won't lead to diminished sales and income? Let's say it's the old plastic disk rental thing. If they make less income, perhaps they buy less copies, right? If it's the more futuristic "PPV", would it not decrease the licensing fees?
If money is moving away from a business model because of piracy, is that not decreased sales?
Yes, there is some upside for the companies on youtube from out of market buyers, as they have no other way to be aware of the content. But the same results could be obtained with trailers, teasers, or other content hosting by the anime companies themselves. No need to put tons of full episodes out there, right? After all, as RikuoAmero mentions, as soon as he was able to download and not pay, there was little reason to pay the high price for imported discs.
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im probably not a reference but that makes sense to me, i still buy DVDs as a matter of fact id rather buy than download (if its a good movie and available for sale in my country).
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But don't think I'm a cheapskate by any reason. I buy tons of other content legally. I buy books, dvds, movies, games. I torrented Dragon Age Origins as soon as it came out, then went ahead and bought it once the expansion Awakening was released.
The point I was trying to make is that the goods are priced so high that no one wants to buy them. For example, I was at a computer store yesterday, and I saw copies of Adobe Flash and Photoshop CS5 going for literally ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE EURO. I paid 1100 for my entire computer. Here, I saw a product that is in high demand (when was the last time you were on a website that didn't make use of Flash in some way?) and basically infinite supply (its 1's and 0's, easy to reproduce), and yet, they're charging 1199? A clear case of not understanding the most basic principles of supply and demand.
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Please read before you slam Mike :)
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If they go up because of it is that not increased sales?
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When put against the title of the piece, " Anime 'Piracy' Could Boosts Sales", it seems like actual facts are being ignored.
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DVDs aren't the only things to sell
We must look into this franchise on its own terms. I find it to be all too common that many who pirate the DVD content will still purchase alternative merchandise later on if they enjoyed the show enough.
I would love to see a study done comparing the DVD sales and the piracy of the content compared to sales of non-DVD merchandise. That could be very telling of what other media industries might want to do for a new business model in the future.
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Typically the anime will still have plenty of "filler" episodes that are completely original if they start catching up to the manga series.
Also plenty of anime out there that had manga made afterwards.
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Re: DVDs aren't the only things to sell
I think that is a short term way to look at things. Merchandising is taking a "want product" and replacing it with a "want want product" (you have to want the dvd, and then also want the merchandise to go with it). As a bonus as part of buying the DVD (the original want product), it is a good way to continue to encourage the sort of consumer behavior you want without burning down your DVD sales market. But it should always be in support of your goal, and not counter to it.
Breakfast cereal companies has done this for years, with all sorts of give aways and promotions "inside the box", with the continued goal of encouraging people to buy their productions. You don't see free cereal if you buy a t-shirt, right? ;)
It always pays to pay attention to what consumers as a whole truly desire, not just what a few of them may buy.
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Something of interest is that Winny, along with it's successors Share and Perfect Dark, give a sneak preview where other countries are going as penalties for copyright infringement become steeper. While it is true that in Japan, downloading content was legal, uploading of content has been illegal for quite some time. Furthermore, it's not just a civil matter, dozens of casual uploaders of TV shows have been arrested. In response, Winny was originally created to be a secured P2P file sharing system, where file sharing would take place without exposing your ip to the internet at large. This was cracked by law officials, and later the more secured Share was created in response. Years later, as Share was cracked for the first time, yet another new system, Perfect Dark was created and is replacing Share's role. Rather than halting piracy, the steeper penalties for copyright infringement in Japan have instead lead to an arms race between those using P2P and those enforcing stronger copyright laws.
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Huh. And just like real life arms races, it's a fantastic waste of time, energy, and resources....
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And no, I'm not just being a freetard, anime studios in Japan have actually come out and said "Thanks" before to piraters.
I just watched it, so it comes to mind, and in Battle Programmer Shirase, in the last episode, the main character actually thanks, "All the people who watched, all the people who took special efforts to watch outside of the original broadcast zone or time, and all of the people watching it subtitled overseas without permission".
And, of course, as someone mentioned, the only reason we have anime over here in the US at all, (or an anime market worth, y'know, many many millions every year), is because of piracy.
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What?? You mean they're stealing the work of others and profiting from it?? How dare they make something that people want to view that's based on someone elses hard work. Ohh, the horror!
Why is this allowed to go on? Quick, someone call the copyright police to send out the C&D letters to these damn infringers!
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On a related note...
Funimation, a major importer of anime in the US, has partnered with Hulu to display a sizable chunk of their catalog online, with links to where people can buy it if they like it.
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Because of this you can say that sales are up even though rentals are down.
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Value
Now if those same cartoons were on YouTube (which in itself can make Viacom a little bit more money from YouTube advertisements) and available on DVD, somebody could think "Oh, I'd like to see [X] show again", find it on YouTube, watch it (for free), enjoy it, spot the link to the DVD release in the video description and buy it. The value of those cartoons would be more than zero.
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"ith Winny, the impact wasn't as strong, and could decrease rental income, but did not decrease DVD sales"
A non-decrease isn't an increase, is it?
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Works for me.
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A decrease in the rental industry and an increase in DVD sales is a win for the anime industry.
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I know because I'm one of them.
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