Verizon Wireless' Solution To Tracking Fears: A Warning Sticker You'll Ignore
from the but-we're-doing-something! dept
With the new questions being raised about how much tracking data is being recorded (and potentially sent to others) from your mobile phone, Verizon Wireless has come up with a solution that allows it to wipe its hands of the problem: warning labels. Yes, the ever-popular liability minimizing trick of affixing a warning label has made its way into this debate:Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Verbal confirmation
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Verbal confirmation
How about require that a salesman verbally confirm that you understand those things before selling it to you? Of course then you get into "I don't remember agreeing to that!" territory verbally, which is is even harder to confirm... hmm...
Nope, I guess the only way to make these things safe and fair to consumers is a transparent Opt-In.
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Verbal Confirmation....really?
I agree it needs to be more prominent than the tag being displayed, and definitely in the manual or in the setup of the phone. Agree to it, or the phone doesn't work. But how many people read what they are agreeing to? They could be agreeing to give away their firstborn child and still click 'I have read and accept these terms'.
You can't idiot proof everything, the world just builds a better idiot.
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HEY DUMBASS:
Verizon is a cellular service company. That means we have to have a general idea where you are. How else do you think you make phone calls?
Also, that GPS thingy that makes the maps so useful? Well, of course, it knows where you are, too. And if you're dumb enough to download apps that ask permission to access your GPS and then transmit that data to someone else, don't start bitching to us about it later. Just so you know.
Also, coffee is hot. That really has nothing to do with this phone, but if you found this note to be helpful, you probably shouldn't drink your coffee too fast.
KTHXBYE,
Verizon
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This Warn You
WARNING: Docs after in oldspeak. Untruth, make-ups only. Make-ups make THOUGHTCRIME. Careful. Supervisor rank or not to read. This read warn you. THOUGHTCRIME in docs after. SEXCRIME in docs after. Careful. If self excited, report. If other excited, report. Everything report. Withhold accurate report is INFOCRIME. THis warn you. Are you authorised, if no stop read now! Make report! We know. Careful. Any resemblance, living or dead, is ungood. Make report. If fail make report, is INFOCRIME. Make report. If report made on failing to make report, this paradox. Paradox is LOGICRIME. Do not do anything. Do not fail to do anything. This warn you. Why you nervous? Was it you? We know. IMPORTANT: Do not read next sentence. This sentence for official inspect only. Now look. Now don’t. Now look. Now don’t. Careful. Everything not banned compulsory. Everything not compulsory banned. Views expressed within not necessarily those of publishers, editors, writers, characters.
You did it. We know. This warn you.
[for a printable version click here]
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Re: Verbal confirmation
Really, I don't understand why we have these things TURNED ON BY DEFAULT in the phones anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
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Oh, wait corporate and religious "authorities" wouldn't want that.
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The government requires it.
http://goo.gl/yyjgm
How's that for irony?
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Verizon
"I'm sure that will settle everyone's concerns."
So, doing nothing is better? That's even superior to "yes, dear" for dumb remarks!
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and ... just because you disable a function, does not mean they are not tracking you
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Google tracks where android phones are to see where phones are clustered on roadways. This way they can deduce where traffic jams are and tell their other customers to avoid that area. With an Opt in there wouldn't be as much data, and hence the service would suffer. Or to be able to re-use your last GPS coordinate in order to speed up the next one.
Why Apple feels it needs a years+ worth of data... Well as scientists know more data is better. But really it was probably just some quick code that never got checked, they said only keep 2MB as they felt that was a small value of data( I mean thats less than one MP3! ). As it turns out txt is really small, and apparently a year's worth of location data fit inside that 2MB.
Good ideas, Poorly Executed.
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Can it really determine my location ?
Can it really tell where I am ? Is this some new feature so that if I leave it at home and somebody calls, it can tell them where to find me ? Or if I leave it on the bus it can tell some passing stranger where to go to return it to me ?
I can just hear this "Hello, this is Bob's phone. He left me on the dresser this morning when he went to work, so you could try his work phone. But not right now, because he just went to the washroom. I expect he'll be back at his desk in 10 minutes or so".
Truly amazing what they can do with technology these days...
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Re: Verbal Confirmation....really?
Configure the API so that certain cells or sources of data cannot be transmitted, copied, buffered anywhere..
Not that difficult.
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