New Bill Introduced To Outlaw GPS Tracking Without Consent

from the oh-big-brother dept

Wed, Jun 8th 2011 6:09am — Mike Masnick

We've been noting, over the past few years, the growing number of lawsuits involving the legality of law enforcement tracking people's movements with GPS devices. There are some mixed and contradictory rulings, which means it'll all likely hit the Supreme Court at some point, but a new bill in the Senate from Ron Wyden and in the House from Rep. Jason Chaffetz apparently seeks to do an end-run around all of that and have Congress clarify the law by saying it's illegal to track that kind of data without a warrant. The bill using yet another "cute" acronym is the "Geolocational Privacy and Surveillance Act" -- or the GPS Act. Get it?

I do wonder if some of the prohibitions on "intercepting" such information go too far -- though there is a "normal course of business" exception in the law. The key focus of the bill really seems on law enforcement, and requiring them to take the not-at-all-onerous step of first getting a warrant. This is eminently reasonable, but you can bet that law enforcement is going to go ballistic about how this bill will "harm" investigations and put people at risk. Get ready for the fear mongering... Update: The bill is to be introduced next week, and there may be some changes from the current draft I was basing this on...

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weneedhelp (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 6:29am

Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
But but but...
Terrorists
Porn
Children
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Dark Helmet (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 6:35am

Re: Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
Fast food
Nazis
Very small rocks....
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KnownHuman (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 6:49am

enough with names
I want to introduce legislation that mandates laws be introduced with numbers based on a logical schema so that bad legislation (looking at you, US PATRIOT Act) can't be introduced in a manner that works against detractors in campaign ads.

I wonder, if I call it the "I Love America Act" if anyone would vote against it?
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fogbugzd (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 6:52am

Given recent history this should not hinder the federal government at all. They will either interpret the law to make it meaningless or just ignore it if they find that more convenient. And the courts will say that they are hesitant to hinder the war on terrorism and once again throw the Constitution and Bill of Rights under the bus.
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Guidence, 8 Jun 2011 @ 7:00am

Laws inhibiting law enfocement?-not!
Warrentless survailence creates more police distrust and fear. There is that amendment against illegal search and seizure.
May you have more freedom, security, and privacy than our founding fathers could have imagined
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Anonymous Coward, 8 Jun 2011 @ 7:16am

Re: Re: Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
Churches!
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Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 7:20am

Re: Re: Re: Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
Muffin button.

Now that that's done. I liked it better when I thought it required consent. While requiring a warrant is good, consent covers all the bases inside and outside the government.
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A.R.M. (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 7:25am

"The bill using yet another "cute" acronym is the "Geolocational Privacy and Surveillance Act" -- or the GPS Act. Get it?"
GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAN.

That was over the "Get it" remark as, for some reason, I felt like I was a 5th grader competing on a game show.

Get it?

Fun aside, I do have to say acronyms help. I prefer the "GPS Act" over "SB 1324 Part II, Subsection 3" any day of the week.
:P
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rubberpants, 8 Jun 2011 @ 7:37am

Response to: A.R.M. on Jun 8th, 2011 @ 7:25am
I think having the bills named after the (primary) rep who introduces the bill plus an incrementing number. For example, a bill to give RIAA lobbiests just what they want might be called The Orin Hatch 322 Act.

Or even better, name the bill after the company that gets the biggest benefit from it along with what they are getting. Unfortunately, no Senator would be ashamed to vote for the Comcast Monopoly 14 Act.
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ts, 8 Jun 2011 @ 7:57am

Re: enough with names
I totally agree with this. Your "I Love America Act" could repeal all of the Bill of Rights.. yet people would still vote for it because voting against it would mean you don't love America.
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ShellMG, 8 Jun 2011 @ 7:58am

Automatic Consent
Since the feds have mandated that all new cars will have "black boxes," does that mean they get to assume consent is given when the car is purchased, or will buyers need to sign a HIPPA-like agreement?

Geez, maybe I'll stick with my 2001 Caravan a lot longer than I intended.
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A Dan (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 8:06am

Re:
At least this acronym and name are descriptive and not confusing, misleading, or loaded.
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Josef Anvil (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 8:23am

Ummmm
"Get ready for the fear mongering..."

Don't you mean TERRORISM ???
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Josef Anvil (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 8:23am

Ummmm
"Get ready for the fear mongering..."

Don't you mean TERRORISM ???
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Jimr (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 8:26am

Cell phones with GPS
I guess all new cell phone contract will now include a clause that will grant them consent to use your GPS information to track you. Yea GPS data is nice for cell companies as if they know your location AND direction/speed they can better facility tower switch.

Is there an automatic exception as it related to the Patriot Act (and home land security)?
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Greg G (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 8:33am

Re: Re: Re: Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
A duck!
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Richard (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 9:06am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
OK it's a fair cop...
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OC, 8 Jun 2011 @ 9:12am

Re: Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
Paper clips
A dolphin
Neil Young

I don't understand this game. Did I win?
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NullOp, 8 Jun 2011 @ 9:47am

GPS
I'd like to introduce a bill to outlaw electing techno-morons to public office.
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Bergman (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 10:11am

Re: Re: Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
Kittens
Bonsai Trees
Nerf
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Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 10:33am

Re: Re: Re: Get ready for the fear mongering - ill start
A recipe for a million views on Youtube.
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Jay (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 12:05pm

Re: GPS
We wouldn't have Congress at all.
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Ryan82, 8 Jun 2011 @ 1:32pm

Re:
Yes, that sounds about right.
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Kevin Bankston, 8 Jun 2011 @ 2:42pm

the headline is incorrect--the bill had not yet been introduced
Hi Mike--Thanks for the story on this interesting and important issue. However, just to be clear, the bill has not been introduced. As the Hill story that you link to indicates, it is expected to be introduced next week. The draft of the bill that is currently available is just that, a draft.
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Kevin Bankston, 8 Jun 2011 @ 2:45pm

Also: the bill is to be introduced in both Senate and House...
...and Mr. Chaffetz will be the sponsor in the House. The current phrasing implies that he is a Senator (and/or that the bill will only be offered in the Senate).
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Anonymous Coward, 8 Jun 2011 @ 4:42pm

Re: the headline is incorrect--the bill had not yet been introduced
Still... it's more backassed evolution from the all mighty failing US of fail.. I mean A.
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Thomas (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 6:27pm

won't matter..
they will still go ahead and use gps tracking. The federal spooks don't give a rats tushie about laws of any kind.
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Thomas (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 6:33pm

Re: Laws inhibiting law enfocement?-not!
They do this and then the police/spooks wonder why no one trusts them. I'm very careful to avoid the police when I'm in the city, even though I have had no contact with the police in many years.
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Mike Kevitt, 8 Jun 2011 @ 6:47pm

GPS tracking by the authorities
Sorry, but I don't see, or know of, any reason for principled opposition to GPS tracking by the authorities. The 4th. Amendment doesn't apply, here. For one thing, it's not a search of one's person or property, and it doesn't necessarily enter into one's property or touch one's person. It's no different than following you in a squad car for a while, having sensed you visually, the eye being a thoroughly passive sensing device. But, not knowing the technology of GPS enough, I think it might involve sending signals into one's property or onto one's person if it's not a thoroughly passive technology. If it does, then that method of tracking is out, without a warrant, on principle.
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Mark Matis, 8 Jun 2011 @ 7:40pm

Why Would Anyone...
think the pigs would comply with this law even if it WAS passed?

The only good pig...
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Derek Kerton (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 8:35pm

Bill Aimed At Something That Is Already Happening?
There is plenty of speculation in the telecom industry that this Bill is being proposed to specifically prohibit some things that are already happening.

The Bill is put forward by Senators with Top Secret clearance, who are/may be aware that the government is already using provisions in the Patriot Act to skirt around the Fourth Amendment and track citizens without Reasonable Cause.

While these legislators cannot publicly discuss whatever top secret surveillance is currently occurring, they CAN propose a law that would prevent it.

There cannot be any proof of what I am saying, but I believe it to be likely. Either way, citizens need to be clear to our government, and demand a law that specifically requires a warrant to track the motions of innocent citizens. I hope this Bill goes through.
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Derek Kerton (profile), 8 Jun 2011 @ 8:55pm

Re: GPS tracking by the authorities
"It's no different than following you in a squad car for a while, having sensed you visually, the eye being a thoroughly passive sensing device."

IT is very different. There is a substantial cost to actually following you in a squad car. They would not undergo that cost without some suspicion of guilt. That action, in business terms, "does not scale" at all. Also, there is a very clear "tell" in that there is marked squad car following you.

In the case of phone-based location surveillance, technology is (or will rapidly advance) at the point where your government could basically just monitor everyone because the price is so low. Consider it similar to the way Google monitors every web site, and even stores a cache copy of it.

If given the option, the government WOULD choose to do so. Why? Not because they want to look at every person in the country, and analyze their motions, but because they can build an amazing data repertoire, and MINE it for patterns.

If I suspect Mullah Osama of plotting terrorism, and I have tracked his phone for a year, then what happens if I mine the database for his know accomplices, and see when all those phones are in the same place. Now I have a good guess as to where they meet. Now, let's mine the dB to see who else is in that location at those key times. OK, that gives us other suspects in the terror cell. That all sounds awesome if we're busting up terror cells, but to do this requires they gather the data on ALL OF US. Basically, we are ALL SUSPECTS, all the time.

There will be false positives, for sure, and that would be a direct problem if they arrest you because you are an Iranian immigrant, and you go to the library every Tuesday at 6 for English tutoring, just when Mullah Osama and his band meet in the fiction section.

But, really, it is much worse. Once the government has that dB, is it really secure from hackers? Will some Department of the government try to use it beyond the scope originally promised? Would someone use it to root out people doing entirely legal activities that of which they simply disapproved? Could a Joe McCarthy-type of person ever exist, and rise to a position of power, and abuse that power? Of course the answer is no, so we can all just relax and stop worrying.

Remember the old mobile Internet promise, the Internet: any device, any place, any time? Well, just change that to surveillance of you: all devices, all places, all the time.
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Mike Kevitt, 9 Jun 2011 @ 1:33am

Re: Re: GPS tracking by the authorities
RE back to Derek Kerton: It appears the only solution to the things you cite is to tear down the Internet and roll back all the hi-tech., and go back to the old technology and stay there. It's my bet you don't think that, and that the appearance I cite is wrong. How 'bout this? Computers, hardware and software are one thing, and the Internet is something else. Can't the cops gather data from the Internet and store their db. offline, analyse it offline, get more data online, analyse it offline and maybe even delete useless data from its offline db.? Can anybody hack into offline data? Maybe I'm showing an immense technological ignorance with that question, but I'll chance that. If that can be done, it's better than going back to old tech. As for the government knowing everything about everybody, in an actually free country, if that really did happen, so what?, as long as any person or entity doesn't initiate physical force anywhere against any other person or entity. In such a country, despite whatever it knows about whom, the government can go after only initiators of force, that is, it can go after only criminals. The subject of just what a "free" country is, is a big subject. Here, I'll just say it's where the government does but one thing: Take effective responsive physical force against initiatory physical force, that is, against crime.
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Jeni (profile), 9 Jun 2011 @ 5:40am

Re: Bill Aimed At Something That Is Already Happening?
"Basically, we are ALL SUSPECTS, all the time."

Exactly, Derek! It is difficult to comprehend that anyone can just "be okay" with this. This is pure insanity.

To the "this is okay" people; wait until you're accused of something you're totally innocent of just because you were at the wrong place at the wrong time - but LEO says you're guilty so that's that. You're diddled.

After all, they all say, "But I didn't do it!"
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GPS Tracking System, 9 Jun 2011 @ 8:48am

Vehicle Tracking
If we outlaw GPS tracking technology we might as well outlaw surveillance cameras and voice recorders since they all pretty much infringe on the same privacy rights....
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Burt Fisher, 15 Jun 2011 @ 10:37am

What does the bill purport to do> Prohibit the reception of the signal from the GPS satellite? That wouldn't do any good. Maybe the bill should simply keep it illegal for unreasonable searches and seizures.

A GPS receiver does nothing more than receive a radio signal from outer space and calculate where the receiver is. The part that bothers me is the added surveillance portion that radios that information to the voyeurs. That is the part that should be illegal, just like it would be illegal for the cops to listen in on my private conversations.
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George Baken, 15 Sep 2014 @ 5:54am

GPS tracking
New bill introduced for GPS vehicle tracking is a great move named as GPS Act. According to this it's illegal to track data related to vehicles without any warrant. It increases the safety and privacy of the vehicle owners and drivers. Police will need to have legal permission before tracking the data.
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employee location sharing, 10 Sep 2017 @ 8:29pm

Employee location sharing
you are right, over the past few years, the growing number of lawsuits involving the legality of law enforcement tracking people's movements with GPS devices. and more and more GPS related companies focus on protecting users' personal information and they insist on keep all confidential from public.
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Alex John (profile), 27 Sep 2021 @ 2:07am

Fleet management system
Flotilla IoT is a cloud-based-end to-end web-based fleet management software. From fuel management and performance reporting to vehicle tracking and maintenance, it covers everything. With a flexible design, it is ideal for fleet businesses of all sizes. It also offers integration of a GPS tracking mobile app and a real-time monitoring mobile app to facilitate business operations.
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