President Obama Comes Out Strongly Against Patent Trolls; Here Are The Details

from the well-that's-nice dept

Tue, Jun 4th 2013 3:00am — Mike Masnick

Back in February, we were a bit surprised during President Obama's "Fireside Hangout" when he appeared to speak out against patent trolls. Historically, most politicians had always tiptoed around the issue, in part because the pharma industry seems to view any attack on patent trolls as an existential threat -- and, frankly, because some small time patent holders can also make a lot of noise. However, it's become exceptionally clear that there's political will to take on patent trolls. We've noted five different patent law bills introduced in Congress, all targeting patent trolls in one form or another.

And now, it's been reported that President Obama is going to come out strongly against patent trolling, directing the USPTO and others to fix certain issues, while also asking Congress to pass further laws to deal with patent trolling. The President will flat out note that patent trolls represent a "drain on the American economy." The announcement will directly say that "patent trolls" (yes, they use the phrase) are a problem, while also talking about the problem of patent thickets like the infamous "smartphone wars."

The plan is scheduled to be released later today, but we've got a preview of the specific plan, and let's take a look at each of the suggestions quickly. I'm sure we'll be discussing the concepts in much more detail for the near future. The plan is split into two different parts: legislative actions (i.e., asking Congress to do something) and executive actions (i.e., ordering administration agencies/departments to do things). Let's start with the executive actions, since those are likely to have the more immediate impact.

Making “Real Party-in-Interest” the New Default. Patent trolls often set up shell companies to hide their activities and enable their abusive litigation and extraction of settlements. This tactic prevents those facing litigation from knowing the full extent of the patents that their adversaries hold when negotiating settlements, or even knowing connections between multiple trolls. The PTO will begin a rulemaking process to require patent applicants and owners to regularly update ownership information when they are involved in proceedings before the PTO, specifically designating the “ultimate parent entity” in control of the patent or application.

We were just discussing this issue because of the This American Life episode where Intellectual Ventures was able to hide behind a shell, something it's been accused of doing many, many times. This is also one of the proposals we've seen in Congress. The details here will matter, and note that, with this, it will only apply to patents that are involved in proceedings before the PTO. It's a step in the right direction, but clearly could go much further -- though, much of that needs to be done legislatively (see below). Also, the definition of "in control of" may need to be specific here. In the TAL story, IV got 90% of the profits but argued that it had no actual control over the patent.

Tightening Functional Claiming. The AIA made important improvements to the examination process and overall patent quality, but stakeholders remain concerned about patents with overly broad claims — particularly in the context of software. The PTO will provide new targeted training to its examiners on scrutiny of functional claims and will, over 3 the next six months develop strategies to improve claim clarity, such as by use of glossaries in patent specifications to assist examiners in the software field.

This is a big one, and everyone, if you get a chance, go thank Mark Lemley for campaigning strongly on this point over the last year. Lemley has been pointing out for quite some time that the broadness of software patents almost certainly violates the 1952 Patent Act's prohibition on so-called "functional claiming." In short, these are claims to a general function, rather than a specific solution. So... claiming a patent on "podcasting" rather than a very specific way of doing podcasting. Telling the USPTO to retrain examiners to recognize functional claims as ineligible for patent protection could be very helpful in knocking out a lot of bad patents in the future.

Empowering Downstream Users. Patent trolls are increasingly targeting Main Street retailers, consumers and other end-users of products containing patented technology — for instance, for using point-of-sale software or a particular business method. End-users should not be subject to lawsuits for simply using a product as intended, and need an easier way to know their rights before entering into costly litigation or settlement. The PTO will publish new education and outreach materials, including an accessible, plain-English web site offering answers to common questions by those facing demands from a possible troll.

This is an increasing problem, which we've discussed a bunch of times, with the various patent lawsuits against podcasters, cafes offering WiFi and networked scanners. Of course, providing them "education and outreach materials" seems like a weak response, but that may be all that's possible at the exec level on that front. The legislative side (which we'll get to) tries to tackle this problem more broadly.

Expanding Dedicated Outreach and Study. Challenges to U.S. innovation using tools available in the patent space are particularly dynamic, and require both dedicated attention and meaningful data. Engagement with stakeholders — including patent holders, research institutions, consumer advocates, public interest groups, and the general public — is also an important part of our work moving forward. Roundtables and workshops that the PTO, DOJ, and FTC have held in 2012 have offered invaluable input to this process. We are announcing an expansion of our outreach efforts, including six months of high-profile events across the country to develop new ideas and consensus around updates to patent policies and laws. We are also announcing an expansion of the PTO Edison Scholars Program, which will bring distinguished academic experts to the PTO to develop — and make available to the public — more robust data and research on the issues bearing on abusive litigation

Yes, more outreach is important. While some may brush this off as meaningless, those who don't spend any time around actual innovators facing regular patent shakedowns really just don't realize how big a problem this is.

Strengthen Enforcement Process of Exclusion Orders. Once the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) finds a violation of Section 337 and issues an exclusion order barring the importation of infringing goods, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and the ITC are responsible for determining whether imported articles fall within the scope of the exclusion order. Implementing these orders present unique challenges given these shared responsibilities and the complexity of making this determination, particularly in cases in which a technologically sophisticated product such as a smartphone has been successfully redesigned to not fall within the scope of the exclusion order. To address this concern, the U.S. Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator will launch an interagency review of existing procedures that CBP and the ITC use to evaluate the scope of exclusion orders and work to ensure the process and standards utilized during exclusion order enforcement activities are transparent, effective, and efficient.

This is a specific issue specifically related to the ITC efforts (more on that in a bit), which would be helpful, but won't move the needle for most patent disputes.

So, the executive actions represent a recognition of the nature of the problem, and have some good ideas on how to deal with it under existing law (the functional claiming bit could be huge), but there are still limitations from the law. And that's where Congress comes in. Here are the President's suggestions:

Require patentees and applicants to disclose the “Real Party-in-Interest,” by requiring any party sending demand letters, filing an infringement suit or seeking PTO review of a 2 patent to file updated ownership information, and enabling the PTO or district courts to impose sanctions for non-compliance.

Above, we noted that he's already telling the PTO to require this for issues before the PTO, so this is asking Congress to extend that mandate to cover all the other situations, down to sending a demand letter. Without this, the orders to the PTO above are a lot less helpful, since owners could still hide behind a patent until it went up before the PTO. Having Congress add this component would, hopefully, severely minimize the shell companies and hidden owners issues with patents.

Permit more discretion in awarding fees to prevailing parties in patent cases, providing district courts with more discretion to award attorney’s fees under 35 USC 285 as a sanction for abusive court filings (similar to the legal standard that applies in copyright infringement cases).

This is similar to the proposal first floated in Congress last year. Basically, this will allow those who are hit with a bogus patent lawsuit to seek legal fees. The "legal standard" here is a bit too high, as we've seen that it's still quite rare (though not unheard of) to see fees awarded in copyright cases. Still, it could weed out the worst of the worst.

Expand the PTO’s transitional program for covered business method patents to include a broader category of computer-enabled patents and permit a wider range of challengers to petition for review of issued patents before the Patent Trial and Appeals Board (PTAB).

This is basically Senator Schumer's bill, and we're all for it. Making it easier and faster to get the USPTO to dump bad patents? Yes, please.

Protect off-the-shelf use by consumers and businesses by providing them with better legal protection against liability for a product being used off-the-shelf and solely for its intended use. Also, stay judicial proceedings against such consumers when an infringement suit has also been brought against a vendor, retailer, or manufacturer.

As mentioned above this is a relatively new, but quickly growing issue. Of course, the details here mater quite a bit. Better legal protection against liability sounds great, but the wording and the specifics will matter. Still, this brief description sounds right. Using a WiFi network you bought in a store for exactly what it says it will do shouldn't lead to you facing a patent troll suit. Same with using the "scan to email" function on your office scanner.

Change the ITC standard for obtaining an injunction to better align it with the traditional four-factor test in eBay Inc. v. MercExchange, to enhance consistency in the standards applied at the ITC and district courts.

This is important. We've talked for years about the ITC loophole that trolls have been exploiting lately. Basically, this gives patent holders two cracks at anyone they're going after, once in the courts and once at the ITC. Even worse, the ITC is not (currently) bound to follow the rules set out by the Supreme Court. This proposal would try to make the ITC process aligned with what the Supreme Court said in the very important MercExchange ruling. Prior to MercExchange, courts would commonly issue an injunction, barring the production or sale of products found to be infringing. So, say your smartphone was infringing on a single patent for a tiny little bit. The patent holder could cause the entire product to be blocked from sale if you're found to infringe. That's crazy.

Under the MercExchange ruling, the courts were told to take a more reasonable view of things, and to see if other remedies might be less harmful to innovation. Of course, with the ITC, the only power they have is to issue an injunction. That is, they can't require royalty payments or anything like that. So, if they have to follow MercExchange, it could just mean that even if they find a product infringing, they could still decide not to issue an injunction.

Use demand letter transparency to help curb abusive suits, incentivizing public filing of demand letters in a way that makes them accessible and searchable to the public.

This is another good one. We've written a few times about the practice of some trolls to try to even keep their demands secret, such that many who receive demand letters don't know that they're one of a group -- and a group that might team up to fight back against bogus threats. Basically, it sounds like this might help lead to a "Chilling Effects" website for troll demands. That sounds quite useful

Ensure the ITC has adequate flexibility in hiring qualified Administrative Law Judges.

Further to the ITC point above -- though this seems more specific to just making the ITC feel a little less overwhelmed with all the cases coming its way lately.

All in all, it's a pretty comprehensive proposal with a lot of good ideas -- nearly all of which have been discussed or proposed in Congress already. So there really aren't any "shockers" other than the fact that the White House really seems to be taking this issue seriously, and that should lead to some action in Congress.

That said, get ready for the pushback. Pharmaceutical companies, giant patent trolls like Intellectual Ventures (and some other legacy tech companies who are long past their innovation days) and a gaggle of people claiming vaguely to represent "small inventors" are about to go ballistic over these proposed changes, and will seek to block any real progress, while simultaneously looking to water down the proposals as much as possible. It's what they did the last time, and it worked. Of course, the problem has only gotten progressively worse since then, so hopefully people realize that their complaints are really more about protecting their own chosen business models, rather than innovation as a whole.

Finally, it'll probably come as no surprise that I think there are many other proposals that would have been nice to see. A couple years ago I wrote a post suggesting what real patent reform should entail, and I still think many of those suggestions would be useful, including a real independent inventor defense, the use of independent invention as a sign of obviousness, and having patent examiners in the PTO include talking to actual people skilled in the art (i.e, people in the field working) to explore whether or not a patent application passes the "non-obvious to those skilled in the art" test. I'm still hopeful that eventually these suggestions will be picked up, but until then, the suggestions above are definitely a good start.

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Pragmatic, 4 Jun 2013 @ 3:46am

Is there anything we can do to help? I concur with your point about pushback from the trolls so we need to be able to push back ourselves. But what can we do in practical terms to support the efforts to sort out the mess?
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:03am

Obama was supposed to be backing 'whistle blowers', supposed to protect them and make it easier to tell authorities about problems found. in reality, those that found problems were then penalised and jailed. i dont call that 'making things easier' and it definitely isn't 'protecting' anyone other than those that had the whistle blown on them! he would also need to look at how the entertainment industries do the same sort of thing by issuing 'take down' and 'cease and desist' notices and claim copyrights on stuff that is not theirs! this causes as much harm as patent trolls. the big difference being patent trolls dont fund Obama or other politicians whereas the entertainment industries do!!
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:09am

Does anyone else hear that high pitched whining sound? It seems to be growing louder by the minute as people wake up and read the blogs.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:20am

Re:
Isn't that what blogs are for?

That's why even the RIAA has one.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:30am

If Obama wants it ...
the party of no will ensure it goes nowhere.
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That One Guy (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:33am

Re: Re:
The *AA's don't have blogs, they have advertisements dressed up to look like blogs, as evidenced by the fact that they have no interest at all in people being able to comment on their sites.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:36am

Re:
Obama was supposed to ...

Would be nice if the DOJ were not run by a bunch of industry puppets.
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horse with no name, 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:48am

it adds up to not that much, really
It's a big long list to basically throw a few more orange cones in the road of lawsuits, but not much more. Some of it might even be able to be challenged in court, as it may set a higher bar for lawsuits for patents, compared to others (say personal injury, as an example). If the requirements to file suit are set so much differently, it could be argued that it hurts patent holders.

It looks mostly like Obama is trying to jump in front of the noisy gaggle of house members who have been proposing various bills, trying to get an agenda going. There is no indication he will really pull it off, the executive orders will go into effect, but the legislative side is likely a dead end for a President that is nearing lame duck status already.
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Seegras (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 4:58am

Patch Politics
Yes, just about every measure goes into the right direction. However, the real problems aren't tackled at all.

a) Patents on mathematics. It's still possible to patent mathematical algorithms, called "software" to muddle the case. These are completely illegal already BUT the patent office and patent lawyers have defined pi=3 to justify them. In other words: The mathematical (and computer science) definition of algorithm is totally different than that of lawyers, courts and the patent office. And the lawyers, courts and patent office just don't get it that their definition is wrong unscientific bogus. Somebody would need to fix that, even if it would mean to insert a definition that "software is mathematics" into law. *sigh*

b) patents on things were prior art is provided by nature, or by somebody else who didn't patent it. This includes a lot of patents on gene-sequences. While it may take a lot of work to re-create bacterial DNA sequences, these very same sequences already exist in the bacteria, and are therefore in no way novel. Patent offices neither check whether something already exists in nature, nor whether something was used or published long time ago, but not subject to any patent. This leads to (apart from being an illegal patent on mathematics anyway) absurd things like "slide to unlock", which happens to be invented in the bronze age (are maybe even the stone age): http://seegras.ch/patents-on-bronze-age-technology/ This issue is rather more difficult to fix than the mathematics one.

There's some more issues, like the lumping of trademarks, copyrights and patents together, and ending up with bans on imports of technology which /might/ violate patents, but which were meant to be used against counterfeit (=violating trademarks) goods.

And of course this is also not conclusive, looming in the back is the big question itself: Is it worth all the effort and wasted energy only to grant _monopolies_?

Because, as the Economist already noted in 1851: "the granting patents �inflames cupidity,� excites fraud, stimulates men to run after schemes that may enable them to levy a tax on the public, begets disputes and quarrels betwixt inventors, provokes endless lawsuits, bestows rewards on the wrong persons, makes men ruin themselves for the sake of getting the privileges of a patent. Patents are like lotteries, in which there are a few prizes and a great many blanks. Comprehensive patents are taken out by some parties, for the purpose of stopping inventions, or appropriating the fruits of the inventions of others, &c. Such Consequences, more resembling the smuggling and fraud caused by an ill-advised tax than anything else, cause a strong suspicion. that the principle of the law from which such consequences flow cannot be just."

And actually, that is the final word about the patent system. That abomination needs to be abolished, as it should have been in 1851 already.
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RyanNerd (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 5:04am

Root cause of patent trolling...
And so in the Patent Office Obama is going to fire the monkeys armed with darts making patent decisions?
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Vidiot (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 5:17am

How about, "Do your jobs"
Quick scan of the WSJ article before seeing this post; and one of those little one-line-paragraphs pops out at me, as if it's the core of the article:

"Mr. Obama is expected to direct the patent office to train examiners to scrutinize applications for overly broad patent claims.

Seriously? That's your plan? Something previously unheard-of? And all this time, we thought that was the minimum standard... job one for patent examiners. Turns out it's a new concept, and we may be able to start screening for obviousness after retraining is complete. 2014? 2015?

Really.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 5:35am

You know what? **** it.
Just scrap the ENTIRE patent system already.

Go ahead, do it. It won't be a war crime or anything.
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BentFranklin (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 5:59am

Intellectual Ventures is from Texas, right? Does anyone know how to find out whose contributions in 2008 were bundled by Texas lobbyist Ron Kirk (soon thereafter to be rewarded by appointment as USTR)?
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MAtt, 4 Jun 2013 @ 6:20am

Oh joy
Yes, let's have more government to apply an adhesive bandage strip over the ways in which a broken system is exploited, because that has worked ever.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 6:33am

Re:
Not so much a fight between companies in Obamalamas time as it has been a fight of government vs the world. Most of the things he has done wrong has been strenghtening the government and its closest friends power to ignore or work around the rules and standards for everybody else. The rest is more or less bipartisan moves.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 6:38am

The biggest irony of all is that President Obama directed the USPTO to speed up the innovation process during his first term...
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Anon E. Mous (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 6:41am

Wow, so he comes out against Patent trolls after hearing Lawyers, Judges and Companies complain for months about how and what patents are issued and some are blatantly stupid and never should have been issued.

Now if he could do something about his Hollywood Funded Copyright mafia that supports the RIAA & MPAA and the absurdity that it has become trying to entangle every country into the Hollywoods way or no way would be fantastic.

Then maybe we could get rid of the Trolls like Prenda
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DannyB (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 6:55am

Re: Root cause of patent trolling...
> And so in the Patent Office Obama is going to fire the
> monkeys armed with darts making patent decisions?

Patent office? Making decisions?

I think they just throw patent applications into a large room full of cats that have PATENT GRANTED stamps attached to their feet.
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DannyB (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 6:57am

Re:
I also seem to remember a state of the union address when he mentioned how many more patents the US is granting and used that as a measure of innovation.
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Steph Kennedy, IPTT (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 6:58am

"This is another good one. We've written a few times about the practice of some trolls to try to even keep their demands secret, such that many who receive demand letters don't know that they're one of a group -- and a group that might team up to fight back against bogus threats. Basically, it sounds like this might help lead to a "Chilling Effects" website for troll demands. That sounds quite useful"

Working on that now...http://www.thatpatenttool.com
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Roland, 4 Jun 2013 @ 8:57am

Re: Root cause of patent trolling...
"... fire the monkeys armed with darts making patent decisions"

What patent decisions? Congress changed funding for USPTO a while back so they are now dependent on filer's fees. So naturally the overworked, underfunded examiners took the attitude: take the fee, issue the patent, and let the courts sort it out. I don't blame them. It's become a rotten job.
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Baldaur Regis (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 9:14am

Re:
Best of luck on your interesting project. May I make a suggestion? It would be great to have info on the main page explaining EXACTLY which laws (if any) govern non-disclosure assertions in these demand letters. If people understand that non-disclosure demands have no force of law, they would be much more likely to share these letters.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 9:16am

Blah blah blah regulation blah blah blah regulation......
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 9:32am

Sometimes it makes me wonder how some patents were issued, even after the product was offered for sale for well over a year. Another area is the Continuation patents, which are granted in much shorter time, and simply contain a collection of other peoples ideas, which are added to an existing patent, and submitted as a new patent. For example, with Bluetooth technology, you would think that entering your vehicle with your iPhone or some other device, that your car radio would automatically connect up, similar to your PC. Makes common sense, right. Well a patent was issued and now this aftermarket company is suing Ford for offering this very idea. But karma does exist, this aftermarket company has been caught deleting archived web pages that would have shown prior art presence which would not have allowed the original patent to be issued in the first place.
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btrussell (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 10:20am

"Protect off-the-shelf use by consumers and businesses by providing them with better legal protection against liability for a product being used off-the-shelf and solely for its intended use."

If it is possible for me to use your product in any way other than its' intended use, no patent.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 10:31am

Are there any real suggestions against "corporate patent trolls" like Microsoft or Apple, who also sue or threaten to sue over broad or useless patents?
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Steve R. (profile), 4 Jun 2013 @ 10:45am

Does Obama Mean It?
Obama is a populist, he offers the adoring masses "candy" to solicit votes. Obama knows how to and is extremely effective at selling populist concepts, but will he actually invest time and effort to pursue fighting patent trolls??? I doubt it.
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Androgynous Cowherd, 4 Jun 2013 @ 10:56am

The real headline...

Expanding Dedicated Outreach and Study. Challenges to U.S. innovation using tools available in the patent space are particularly dynamic, and require both dedicated attention and meaningful data. Engagement with stakeholders � including patent holders, research institutions, consumer advocates, public interest groups, and the general public � is also an important part of our work moving forward. Roundtables and workshops that the PTO, DOJ, and FTC have held in 2012 have offered invaluable input to this process. We are announcing an expansion of our outreach efforts, including six months of high-profile events across the country to develop new ideas and consensus around updates to patent policies and laws. We are also announcing an expansion of the PTO Edison Scholars Program, which will bring distinguished academic experts to the PTO to develop � and make available to the public � more robust data and research on the issues bearing on abusive litigation

Yes, more outreach is important. While some may brush this off as meaningless, those who don't spend any time around actual innovators facing regular patent shakedowns really just don't realize how big a problem this is.

But the real headline here is this bit:

stakeholders � including patent holders, research institutions, consumer advocates, public interest groups, and the general public

Finally, a recognition from those in positions of power that the public is a stakeholder in IP issues! Also "public interest groups" and "consumer advocates".

Now awaiting recognition that they're the only real stakeholder, and recognition in the context of copyright as well.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jun 2013 @ 11:03am

Re:
WOW! Classic Obama example

Found the links here

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/108290892/Ford

http://news.wolterskluwerlb.com/daily/ip/?id=news&post=news/IPLD20130301.html

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-jersey/njdce/3:2010cv01199/260990/181
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Davey, 4 Jun 2013 @ 1:16pm

Re:
Just the usual -- phone/visit/mail your congress creatures and push specifically for the proposals above. Send Obama a thank-you for standing up on this issue.
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Davey, 4 Jun 2013 @ 1:25pm

Good start.
The most important thing is to make this a political issue that's known to more than lawyear-sleaze and geeks in basements. The question is, with they be able to communicate to the wider public that damage current practice is doing to their interests?

The paying of atty fees helps a little, but letting jury/judge impose far costlier penalties for bullying/frivolous lawsuits would make a huge difference.
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Mark Syman, 5 Jun 2013 @ 7:15am

Re: Stop the Patent Thieves !
We need a law that requires large electronics companies to determine if new product releases use the inventions of others.

I used to work for a large electronics company and never once did we review new product releases to identify infringement of patents from other parties. And then the company complained when they got sued for patent infringement. Ha !
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Anonymous Coward, 5 Jun 2013 @ 7:25am

Re: Re: Root cause of patent trolling...
I was a patent examiner, and I know that everyone in our department put a lot of work into each case, and gave a lot of thought to each case. Our goal for each case was to find prior art that invalidated the claims. We had a lot of technical talent, including myself with a B.A. in Computer Science and 15 years in software development at IBM, Lockheed, Compuserve, etc.; and we also had an M.I.T. grad too.

The biggest problem is that the Patent Office is a training ground for patent attorneys, so they have high turnover. The gov't can't compete with private industry for compensation. $60K/year in D.C. doesn't go very far these days.
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Anonymous Coward, 5 Jun 2013 @ 7:48am

Re: Re: Root cause of patent trolling...
About half of the patent applications are never issued, and most of the issued patents are amended (narrowed) greatly. I have never seen any patent that is 'rubber-stamped'.

You have no data to support your post.

"Of all patent applications received by the USPTO, over 90 percent are initially rejected." http://store.inventorprise.com/content_articles.php?id=1037

During the second quarter of 2009 ... the allowance rate is about 41%" http://inventivestep.net/2009/08/20/culture-at-pto-responsible-for-rising-rejection-rate/
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