Alice Ruling Kills Another Patent Dead, As Lumen View Patent Troll Drops Appeal

from the making-it-easy dept

We recently noted that a bunch of courts had been killing off bad software patents thanks to the Supreme Court's ruling in Alice v. CLS Bank. And now, that ruling is even leading the trolls themselves to give up. Notorious patent troll Lumen View recently dropped its appeal in its case against the website FindTheBest, saying that the ruling in Alice made it clear it wouldn't win:
Appellant Lumen View Technology, LLC respectfully moves to dismiss voluntarily the appeal under Fed. Cir. R. 42(b). The United States Supreme Court in Alice Corporation Pty. Ltd. v. CLS Bank International, 573 U. S. ____ (2014) (No. 13-298), has provided greater clarity on patentability in light of 35 U.S. C. §101. The parties respectfully make a request for dismissal as an efficient resolution of the instant appeal and to conserve judicial resources.
If you don't recall, Lumen View holds a patent (US Patent 8,069,073) (now officially and finally decided as invalid) for a "system and method for facilitating bilateral and multilateral decision making." Don't ask what that means because it doesn't mean much. Even before the Alice ruling, the district court had said the patent was invalid as merely being an "abstract idea" and thus unpatentable subject matter.

Throughout the case, Lumen View (and its lawyers) had done some astounding things, including claiming that FindTheBest's CEO committed a hate crime for calling Lumen View a patent troll. Lumen View's lawyers later sought a gag order against FindTheBest's Kevin O'Connor, demanding that he remove from the internet his discussions about Lumen View and his willingness to fight back against the troll rather than give in.

For a company like that to finally give up -- before the appeal was even heard -- shows just how powerful that ruling in Alice is. The legal fight is not totally over. FindTheBest is still arguing that Lumen View is guilty of racketeering (which is unlikely to go anywhere), and the two sides are still fighting over Lumen View having to pay FindTheBest's legal fees -- but the main event is now concluded, and the patent is officially and totally invalid.
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Filed Under: kevin o'connor, obviousness, patents
Companies: alice, cls bank, findthebest, lumen view


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  1. identicon
    Stephen Hutcheson, 19 Sep 2014 @ 3:54pm

    In related news, Gog and Magog gather in the Valley of Megiddo; Penny Stocks Rise, innovation ceases to the uttermost meme, and Civilization As We Know It ends with a whimper.

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    Anonymous Coward, 19 Sep 2014 @ 4:31pm

    ITT: commiters of hate crimes

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    antidirt (profile), 19 Sep 2014 @ 4:49pm

    Is there any patent Mike wouldn't be happy to see declared invalid? I know, I know... He'll never tell.

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  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 19 Sep 2014 @ 5:36pm

    Re:

    "Promote the progress of science and useful Arts"

    Software patents do not promote science or useful art. They stifle progress. The supreme law of the land requires that patents/copyrights promote progress. Anything not promoting progress is therefore illegal.

    Based on everything I've read from Mike here, he only dislikes software and business method patents. I agree with that viewpoint.

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  5. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 19 Sep 2014 @ 9:23pm

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    Ones that definitively promote the progress of the sciences and useful arts.

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  6. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2014 @ 1:23am

    "For a company like that to finally give up -- before the appeal was even heard -- shows just how powerful that ruling in Alice is."

    I think it shows the patent examiners for the incompetent scammers they are.

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  7. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2014 @ 6:13am

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    Whined Ronald J. Riley's cocksucker.

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  8. identicon
    prodirt, 20 Sep 2014 @ 6:42am

    Re: antidirt

    Ok, now you're just being childish. If I had to guess, based on all you're comments to date, I'd wager you never really grew up. I'd also wager that you're well off with plenty of free time on your hands as a result and that no matter how much money and material possessions you have, you're never truly happy.

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    This only serves to anger you even more and increases you're resolve and belief that your next post just has to be the one where you convince everyone that you're right and thusly you "win". Because you just know deep down that you're right and everyone else is wrong no matter what anyone says, even though nothing could be further from the truth.

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    Your life will only be complete once victory is yours and you're standing over the strewn, decaying bodies of every single pirate righteously slain. Nothing would make you happier, only now that little voice in the back of your mind is telling you you'll never win, that it's impossible. And it's right. No matter what you do, no matter what you say, no matter what laws are passed or how severe the punishments are, file sharing will continue unabated.

    Even if there was no internet tomorrow, it would still continue. You lost before you even began your self righteous copyright war. Why? Because you weren't fighting piracy or protecting copyright, you were fighting against human nature itself. The indomitable human spirit. No matter what limits you try to put on it, no matter how much you try to stifle it, our spirit, much like knowledge and culture, wants to be free. And it always will be.

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    Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2014 @ 11:35am

    Re: Re:

    If a patent does not unambiguously promote the progress of the sciences and useful arts it should not exist.

    and I think that's one of the problems with the patent system.

    A: no one is entitled to a monopoly

    B: Patents are monopolies and monopolies are known to cause economic harm

    C: Advancement will happen without patents. Patents can hinder advancement and patenting everything or granting bad patents will hinder advancement.

    So the burden is on patent holders to provide that there is such a thing as a good patent and to provide objective criteria that can be used to reasonably distinguish a good patent from a bad one. If they can't provide such criteria then we can't reasonably make these distinctions and so they haven't meet the burden required to justify their existence.

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    Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2014 @ 7:27pm

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    I know this is a great logical leap for you, but there are thousands and thousands of patents Mike doesn't write about.

    Now think hard.

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    Anonymous Coward, 22 Sep 2014 @ 12:26am

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    Take it up with the judge, dumbfuck. Have a DMCA vote!

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  12. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Sep 2014 @ 12:00pm

    Re: Re: antidirt

    Do not bother. This guy is OOTB version 0.2.

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