Virginia Senate Votes To Exempt Police Officers' Information From FOIA Responses
from the referred-to-by-short-name-'Cosgrove-Coverup' dept
Way to go, Virginia. In a time when police accountability is (finally!) a mainstream media topic, the Virginia state legislature is having none of it. Prompted by a recent court decision granting The Virginian-Pilot access to police employment records, the state Senate has passed a bill that basically neutralizes the brief win for transparency advocates. (via Radley Balko)
The Virginia Senate voted 25-15 on Monday to keep the names of all police officers and deputy sheriffs a secret.The bill's wording puts law enforcement officers in the same accountability bracket as state employees making less than $10,000 a year.
SB552 by Sen. John Cosgrove, R-Chesapeake, applies to any local or state officer, including officers from agencies such as the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control and the Virginia Marine Police.
The provisions of this subsection, however, shall not require public access to records of the (a) official salaries or rates of pay of public employees whose annual rate of pay is $10,000 or less or (b) the names, positions, job classifications, or other personal identifying information concerning (1) employees of state or local police departments or sheriff's offices who are responsible for the prevention and detection of crime and the enforcement of the penal, traffic, or highway laws of the Commonwealth; (2) special agents of the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control; (3) officers of the Virginia Marine Police; (4) conservation police officers who are full-time sworn members of the enforcement division of the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries; (5) investigators who are full-time sworn members of the security division of the Virginia Lottery; (6) conservation officers of the Department of Conservation and Recreation commissioned pursuant to § 10.1-115; (7) full-time sworn members of the enforcement division of the Department of Motor Vehicles appointed pursuant to § 46.2-217; or (8) animal protection police officers employed under § 15.2-632.The bill now goes to the House, where it will hopefully be greeted with disbelief and derision. Or not. The bill's creator, John Cosgrove, is conjuring up the ghastly spectre of the nonexistent "War on Cops" to justify cutting the public out of the loop.
Cosgrove said Monday that his bill, which exempts law enforcement officers from Freedom of Information Act requirements, should be passed to protect officers and their families from being targeted for violence.A local law enforcement official agrees:
“Unfortunately, our culture has changed,” he said. “Many times, police officers are considered fair game.”
John Jones, executive director of the sheriffs' group, said he believes that the concerns about the bill are unfounded."Everything" apparently being the freefall in police firearm-related deaths over the past 40 years.
"With social media and all the databases, once you get the name and a little bit more information ... you can pretty much get a picture of who they are," Jones said. "And with everything going on with law enforcement... it's an officer safety issue."
If Cosgrove's bill manages to land on the governor's desk and net a signature, he will likely be hailed as a hero by his Fraternal Order of Police brethren. His constituents, however, will receive nothing more than additional widening of the gap between them and those who are supposed to serve them.
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Secret police
So now we truly do have secret police force with unlimited authority.
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Police State USA
Politically well-connected persons enjoy police status as long as it suits the interests of the government. Otherwise, serfdom for them. Ask the fallen Hollywood stars for details.
Your fathers and grandfathers fought two world wars to save you from being in a police state, lest we forget. Adolf would be proud.
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What a police officer does at work is WORK. It's his or her job. Some protesters are quick to try to dox officers and as such, they don't just harm their jobs, they harm their lives, their family's lives, their neighbor's lives, etc. Can you imagine having a group of people showing up in front of your house to threaten your life, threaten to burn down your home, threaten to kill your family because of something you wrote online?
The intimidation factor here is huge. Might an officer choose not to arrest someone because they say "I will find you online, stalk your family, and kill your pets"? Might an office choose not to get involved in a domestic dispute or deal with a gang member for fear of retribution or a sort of virtual lynching?
That doesn't mean that police work should be anonymous or untracked. Rather, it's important that we separate the officer from the person. The alternative is that we end up with anarchy, where those who threaten the loudest would win. That sort of intimidation - including the killing of judges, police officers, and their families - has kept many countries from getting out of third world status. Do we really want the US to sink to those levels?
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You say that like it's not what already happens. Untracked, unrestrained police power is precisely why we are where we are today, with the police using every possible means to intimidate and justify ridiculous uses of their power.
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Amazing how wimpy police are nowadays
How about if you don't want to be at risk, don't take a job where risk is a daily fact of life.
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Re: Amazing how wimpy police are nowadays
They are. They are terrified about revenge killings, about getting their families harmed because they arrested someone, or because of a heated moment. They fear that certain members of the public are going to choose to be judge, jury, and executioner against whatever actions they happen to take.
The police are not above the law, but there is something wrong when you think it's acceptable to shove them below the law.
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Public agencies cannot perform their official functions under a cloak of secrecy. The only exception is for issues of national security. This is one of the foundations of our entire constitutional system of government.
Any cop that is so scared of being publicly identified should go find another job. Maybe as a taxi driver or a lumberjack or a roofer or a construction laborer or any other of the multitude of professions that have a higher on-job death rate than cops.
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Apparently someone didn't grasp the concept
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You have the right to know who your employees are
Before there can be any restriction on that right there should, legally, be a compelling government interest. For that, you'd have to first show that there's a problem. And right now, there's not.
The fact is, being a cop is not a dangerous job. The OSHA/BLS statistics show that being a cop is less dangerous than working in 'municipal waste management.' IIRC it's also less dangerous than working as a cabbie or mini-mart clerk. It's an order of magnitude less dangerous than being a timber faller or commercial fisherman.
About 100 cops die on the job every year recently. About half of them die in traffic accidents. The other 50 are killed, usually by suspects. Across the U.S., governments pay out settlements in more than 50 wrongful killings by police every year. Total killings by police are closer to 1000.
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Thanks for proving my point for me.
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They routinely get away with outrageous behavior up to and including senseless murder. Rule #1 when dealing with cops is that you have no rights, and you are an insignificant insect which they are allowed to squash at any time for any or no reason.
Hardly surprising that more people are becoming disillusioned with the police and are demanding oversight, accountability and consequences for lawless cop behavior.
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And how is this below the law? After all, someone can go to a judge's house, or a politician's house and and do all of those things as well. And yet there's no hiding the names of the legislators who create the laws, or the judges who sentence, or the governor who pardons. Why are the police better than them?
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In fact, Lt. John Pike was so fearful of those students sitting on the ground ... he had no other choice ... he had to pepper spray them This selfless action resulted in his deep psychological pain and suffering for which he was given worker's compensation award and his retirement benefits. Poor poor soul, he has suffered so much.
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Re: This right here
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I am not gonna sit here and say that their job is safe, but it is NOT the deathtrap they make it out to be and it is not enough reason to make laws and give special treatment that basicly prevent those with the most power from being held responsible.
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Cops aren't in danger
If you'd like to put some money on it...I've got 1000 bucks to bet. I could use the money.
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umm, you mean like pigs do now to EVERYONE ELSE ? ? ?
what a tool you are, whatever...
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BUT, BUT, BUT...
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Well then, maybe they shouldn't beat the crap outta people, I doubt that is in their job description. Law enforcement does not include punishment, that is reserved for a court of "law" to determine after conviction. We do not need a bunch of self appointed Judge Dredds running around acting like they are doing everyone a favor.
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The US has already sunk to massive lows, because of the terrorists and criminal in the FBI and the CIA. Add in the mass-media complicity and the stunning lack of oversight from both Congress and the Senate, alongisde the public, and the problems are easy to see.
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I like what your suggesting, and I found your post very insightful, I just don't know if secrecy in policing wouldn't just make the problem worse.
UNLESS!! We give all LEO's a stripper stage name. Not only would it protect his/her identity, but how fucking entertaining would the Saturday blotter report in the paper be?
Hmmmm.. I wonder what name I'd use.......
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As long as they take their official name as "gestapo" to go along with their cowardice, I'm fine with it. After all, if they want to play the role, they should take on the proper name.
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Well then that should help them relate to the public's perception of them shouldn't it?
They fear that certain members of the public are going to choose to be judge, jury, and executioner against whatever actions they happen to take.
How ironic!
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Re: Police State USA
Get policed
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Is this happening to police officers?
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