Iowa Taxpayers Handing Out $60K Settlement To California Gamblers Who Were Legally Robbed Of $100K By State Troopers

from the we'll-keep-taking-stuff-as-long-as-you-guys-keep-giving-til-it-hurts dept

A couple of years ago, two victims of Iowa's Snatch and Grab drug interdiction team saw $100,000 in cash disappear into the pockets of state police following a dubious traffic stop. The state ultimately returned 90% of the seized cash to the California natives, but not before calling in a tip to California law enforcement to cause additional problems for them once they returned home.

The Iowa State Police's Fishing Expedition Unit noted -- during its attempt to retain "ownership" of money it couldn't prove was connected to anything illegal -- that the two Californian poker players set off all sorts of "suspicious behavior" alarms when stopped, including indicators that contradicted other indicators. From the 2014 lawsuit:

Defendant Desert Snow and Joe David’s training taught Trooper Simmons that completely innocent behaviors were indicators of criminal activity, including:

Dark window tinting
Air fresheners or their smell
Trash littering a vehicle
An inconsistent or unlikely travel story
A vehicle on a long trip that is clean or lacks baggage
A profusion of energy drinks
A driver who is too talkative, or too quiet
Signs of nervousness, such as sweating, swallowing or redness of face
Designer apparel or other clothing that seems inappropriate
Multiple cellphones

More than three years later, Iowan taxpayers are going to have to reach into their own pockets to finish paying the interdiction unit's tab.

Iowa announced Monday that it has disbanded its state forfeiture team and — in a separate move — also agreed to pay $60,000 to settle a lawsuit brought by two California gamblers whose bankroll was seized during a warrantless search in 2013 by two Iowa State Patrol troopers.

The other good news is the disbanding of the "state forfeiture team," as the Des Moines Register honestly calls it. The State Police preferred to call its highway banditry something less patently obvious: "Criminal Interdiction Team" and, later, "Special Operations Unit." Honestly, it could have just been called the Nottingham Sheriff's Department Revenue Diversion Unit. Data compiled by the Quad-City Times shows the unit did most of its "work" within five miles of the state border.

The busiest single location for traffic stops in Iowa was near mile marker 5 on I-80 not far from the Nebraska border. The specially trained troopers issued 785 tickets and warnings there as part of the 4,027 citations and warnings issued in Pottawattamie County.

The easiest money often comes from people just passing through. Travel to and from nearly any state can be viewed as "suspicious" by law enforcement officers -- as can nearly any and all driver behavior. Here's a fantastic bit of suspicioning from another member of the state's Legalized Theft Team, as called out by the judge tossing out evidence obtained during a warrantless search.

As for the trooper's assertion that Hanrahan was still nervous even after he was told he would only receive a warning, nervousness alone, under these circumstances, did not generate reasonable suspicion of criminal activity to provide grounds for a warrantless search. See United States v. Guerrero, 374 F.3d 584, 590 (8th Cir.2004)("[I]t cannot be deemed unusual for a person to exhibit signs of nervousness when confronted by an officer."); Beck, 140 F.3d at 1129(same). The trooper's reliance on this factor is particularly questionable to the extent it was based on Hanrahan's apology for speeding and his statement that "he would absolutely slow down." In the trooper's view, Hanrahan's response was suspicious because "most people that aren't doing something wrong, they are almost offended that you stopped them for a minor violation instead of someone else." In our view, nothing in Hanrahan's courteous and respectful answer could be construed as suspect.

The "interdictions" will not halt completely, however. They'll just be more distributed.

Jeff Thompson, also of Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller’s office, told the board Monday that the Iowa Department of Public Safety had disbanded the interdiction team. He said state and local law enforcement agencies may continue to pursue forfeitures but not under the concerted effort of the longtime interdiction team. He said the decision to disband was not based on Monday’s settlement.

“It (the interdiction team) essentially led to a number of stops and seizures,” Thompson said. “The whole process, that whole concept, has been somewhat under attack.”

The interdiction team was dismantled because of increased personnel demands, including increased focus to reduce Iowa traffic deaths, said Sgt. Nathan Ludwig of the Iowa State Patrol. There are no plans to resurrect the team. The troopers assigned to the interdiction unit have been reassigned to general patrol duties, he said.

At least the attorney general's office recognizes civil asset forfeiture is, at the very least, controversial. The reassignment of officers should break up the campouts on the Nebraska border, but there will still be ample opportunities to turn routine traffic stops into Diving for Dollars. At the very least, traffic patrol officers might be a bit more focused on preventing deaths than preventing any seizable cash from escaping the state.

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  1. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:14pm

    As it should be!

    "Iowa Taxpayers Handing Out $60K Settlement To California Gamblers Who Were Legally Robbed Of $100K By State Troopers"

    Sorry but this is exactly as it should be. If the taxpayers want to stop funding their fuck ups they will vote in officials that will solve the problem. Until then... pay up... it is LITERALLY what they voted for!

    Every nation gets the government it deserves, no exception!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  2. identicon
    RK57957, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:22pm

    Be respectful ... don't be respectful

    So I'm confused, I'm supposed to be respectful to the police except in situation in which being respectful is suspicious?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  3. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:26pm

    The best job around

    Ah public office, where it doesn't matter how badly you screw up, it's always someone else that pays the bill, and where you have people defending your complete and utter lack of personal responsibility by blaming the people that are stuck paying out in your stead, because blaming those actually responsible would be unfair, given being voted into public office is always paired with a complete removal of free will.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:30pm

    Re: The best job around

    Someone that does not believe in the declaration of independence.

    Do everyone a favor... never speak of rights or liberty again. You clearly don't even understand them.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:32pm

    "Legally"?

    If the state was confident this was legal, they wouldn't be paying a $60K settlement.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:39pm

    Everything is suspicious when you're looking for an easy payday

    Air fresheners or their smell

    Don't like the way your car smells? Deal with it, only criminals like cars to smell nice.

    Trash littering a vehicle

    So keep a clean car to avoid suspicion, got it.

    A vehicle on a long trip that is clean or lacks baggage

    ... except that having a clean vehicle is itself a suspicious fact.

    A profusion of energy drinks A driver who is too talkative, or too quiet

    Good thing energy drinks aren't, you know, meant to give people energy, and therefore likely to give them the jitters and make them talkative. Also exactly what are the definitions of 'too talkative' or 'too quiet'?

    Signs of nervousness, such as sweating, swallowing or redness of face

    Remember, just because you're dealing with one or more people who can literally rob you at gunpoint and arrest and/or kill you for objecting, who can and will consider a clean or dirty car as grounds to do so, no need to be nervous!

    Designer apparel or other clothing that seems inappropriate

    Translation: Don't dress in a way that makes it look like you have any notable amount of money to steal. Also make sure to call ahead and get fashion tips from any police that you might encounter.

    With how insanely wide the 'suspicious activity' list they were using they should have just summed it up as 'Because the officer felt like it'.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:41pm

    Re: Re: The best job around

    So, no response to my actual comment, just 'You'r wrong, don't talk again'? Very elegant and convincing, you've certainly made me see the error of my ways.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  8. icon
    Mat (profile), 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:42pm

    Re: Re: The best job around

    I think someone's sarcasm and/or 'not the way it should be but the way it seems to actually be' detectors is broken.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  9. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:49pm

    Re: Be respectful ... don't be respectful

    Non, no, no, you are meant to have a wad of cash that they can find, and to act suspicious so that they can search and find it. That way, you pay them to let you on your way, without being so crass as to offer a bribe.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  10. identicon
    I.T. Guy, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:49pm

    My driving record is taller than I am. Not once when being pulled over did I ever deny why.
    "Do you know why I pulled you over?"
    Yes Officer I was speeding.
    "Do you know why I pulled you over?"
    Yes Officer, my tag was last registered in 84."
    "Do you know why I pulled you over?"
    Yes Officer it's because my exhaust is loud.
    "Do you know why I pulled you over?"
    Is it that mailbox on my bumper and the bald front tire?

    Ok so that last one isn't exactly true.

    My advice if you need to travel the interstate... look poor. No jewelry, sweats and a tee shirt. Tint your windows, but not too dark. Smell good, but not too good. Be dirty, but not too dirty. Be clean, but not too clean. KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING. Keep a couple bags of luggage in the back seat. And for the love of Rod do not talk too much, or too little.

    Follow my advice and you too can have a safe fun trip on the many interstates of the US of A.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  11. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:50pm

    Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    yes, yours.

    He was clearly being sarcastic about my post and just called me a victim blamer in a different way, which is typical for ignorant Americans that think they know how it should work but fundamentally lack a clue.

    Citizens are not the victims in this game, they are perpetrators that cry about being victims because they have become cowards. The Declaration of Independence indicates that it is the duty of the citizens to throw off any unjust governments or they suffer under them. If a citizenry wishes to shirk that duty, then they cannot complain about the consequences. Hench the "Every nation gets the government it deserves" quote I added.

    He made it clear that he does not understand that responsibility and chooses to instead sit back, do nothing, and just run his mouth hand-wringing over the fact that someone is placing the blame right where it should be.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  12. identicon
    I.T. Guy, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:50pm

    Re: As it should be!

    What nation do you deserve... wiLLie?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  13. identicon
    I.T. Guy, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:53pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    You got issues brah.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  14. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 12:57pm

    Re: Re: As it should be!

    nitwit... I think you mean to ask, what Government do I deserve? That question is out of context, because I am talking about whole groups of people.

    As a whole... the nation gets the government it deserves, which means there is the possibility that the people themselves may not get the nation they deserve, and in the case of the people getting some of their stolen money back they are getting compensated for a corrupt government. Now, that said, the voters have made it expressly clear that corruption in government is more than fine, they actually prefer it! So therefore, the tax payers DESERVE to foot the bill.

    It's not hard to figure these things out folks.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  15. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 13 Dec 2016 @ 1:00pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    Citizens are not the victims in this game, they are perpetrators that cry about being victims because they have become cowards.

    Just because the public might be to blame for not 'Voting better!' doesn't mean those in office aren't to blame for their actions, unless, as I noted in my response, being voted into public office automatically strips you of your free will, making you unable to do anything that conflicts with what the public wants.

    If Person A hires Person B to run a bank, and they instead rob the bank, would you point to A and say 'Well, it's their fault, they should have hired someone else, therefore they should be punished' while completely ignoring that B was the one who actually committed the robbery?

    If a citizenry wishes to shirk that duty, then they cannot complain about the consequences. Hench the "Every nation gets the government it deserves" quote I added.

    So just to save time, if I copy/pasted my questions to the last time you pulled out the 'Every nation gets the government they deserve' dealing with what happens if you're not in the majority, will you not answer that this time too?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  16. identicon
    kallethen, 13 Dec 2016 @ 1:04pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    Victim blaming? I think you took the wrong understanding of his message. I understood it to say that it's a shame that the public citizens have to pay for the mistakes and misdeeds of the officials who did the wrong, and that the officials just get a slap on the wrist. The blame and punishment should ideally be on the officials doing the wrong.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  17. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 1:16pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    "Just because the public might be to blame for not 'Voting better!' doesn't mean those in office aren't to blame for their actions,"

    O yes... blaming the citizens for their part is totally also stating that the corrupt officials are not to blame AT ALL!

    Did you get your logic from a crack-jack box? You need to get a refund if you did.

    "So just to save time, if I copy/pasted my questions to the last time you pulled out the 'Every nation gets the government they deserve' dealing with what happens if you're not in the majority, will you not answer that this time too?"

    Like all 'self-evident' things, it explains itself if you just think about it. The word nation speak to the whole, not the individual, perhaps if you could understand that you will finally get it. Like a generalization it talks about and blames the majority in standing, it does not nullify any exceptions, or blame those in the minority. So clearly the majority of Americans like or at the very least are okay enough with this system or there would be effort to change or challenge it. Therefore, every nation gets the government it deserves, and therefore makes the citizens responsible because they ignored their duty to throw off such forms of government.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  18. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 1:17pm

    The problem is multifaceted

    The "blame", if you will, is a distributed sort. The problems exist due to a multitude of factors and there are many who bare responsibility for this situation.

    The general citizenry has responsibility for the officials it elects, the officials have responsibility for the policies it puts in place, the LE has responsibility for how they carry out what they do.

    If none of these groups makes changes then all are responsible for the situation at hand.

    Simple See.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  19. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 1:19pm

    Re: Re: Re: As it should be!

    change "the people" to "a person" syntax is very important here...

    my bad!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  20. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 1:24pm

    Re: Re: Re: As it should be!

    Sounds like you are the one running his mouth

    link to this | view in thread ]

  21. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 1:25pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    If I took the wrong understanding then he needs to respond that I am mistaken.

    I think it was clear he was being sarcastic. Read it a few more times, the "because blaming those actually responsible would be unfair, given being voted into public office is always paired with a complete removal of free will." makes it pretty clear to me that he is in a round about way of saying that I am victim blaming by making fun of me by implying that I think that an elected official cannot possibly act against the will of the people.

    He directly implies that my blaming of the people is somehow NOT blaming the officials, and no where do I make the claim that official are blameless. He is making a false inference and trying to drag the conversation in the wrong direction for an unknown purpose.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  22. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 2:00pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    Every blog gets the commenters it deserves

    please, no email

    link to this | view in thread ]

  23. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 2:02pm

    Re: Re: Be respectful ... don't be respectful

    Is it suspicious if I do not have a wad of cash?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  24. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 2:05pm

    Re:

    You forgot: Don't be red in the face. Learn to control your bloodpreasure with your mind.

    (Also learn to change race)

    link to this | view in thread ]

  25. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 2:08pm

    Re: Re: Re: Be respectful ... don't be respectful

    Anything and everything about you is suspicious when the police are hunting for something to steal.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  26. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 3:16pm

    what am i missing here? is everybody delighted it only cost those guys 40g to drive through iowa? that and legal fees.

    we need a list of what states to avoid at any cost or convenience. just drive around the sucker.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  27. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 13 Dec 2016 @ 3:43pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    Sarcastic-ish.

    Kallenthen seems to have picked up on my intent for the most part, the disgust that the ones who actually do the 'crime' get a slap on the wrist, while the taxpayers who's crime was electing the 'wrong' people get saddled with the bill, leaving the punishment ineffective and hitting the wrong people.

    My comment was less a response to yours in particular and more a moment of venting against the idea as I've seen it kicked around for years, where a public official of some kind screws up/screws someone over, the public gets the bill, and the response at times is an almost gleeful 'Hah, the public had it coming for not picking someone better!'

    link to this | view in thread ]

  28. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 4:35pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Be respectful ... don't be respectful

    I find the police to be very suspicious, do I get to take their cash?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  29. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 4:54pm

    Re:

    Going around a state is considered suspicious.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  30. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2016 @ 5:38pm

    God Damned thieves, probably dragged the defendants back into the bushes and sodomized them too. I wager the pigs and goats down on the farm were thankful for that.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  31. icon
    Norahc (profile), 13 Dec 2016 @ 7:28pm

    Re:

    we need a list of what states to avoid at any cost or convenience. just drive around the sucker.

    That list consists of all 50 states.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  32. icon
    jimb (profile), 13 Dec 2016 @ 9:37pm

    safety first?

    "The interdiction team was dismantled because of increased personnel demands, including increased focus to reduce Iowa traffic deaths..." Wait - what?! The Iowa State Police are going to stop collecting cash forfeitures in order to focus on "traffic safety"?! This sounds like smoke-screen spin to my cynical judgement. I doubt that a piddly $60K settlement is enough to make up for the reapings they must surely have grabbed over the years. Perhaps the judicial scrutiny (must not be giving the courts a big enough cut...) have something to do with it. Since when has law enforcement been about enhancing safety, and "protecting and serving" the public? Unless we perhaps consider a seizure to be a form of 'you've been served!'. Anyway, its nice to find one such illegal seizure forced back to the rightful owners by the courts, which are usually all too willingly complicit in this literal highway robbery.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  33. identicon
    The Reichstag fire, and Paul von Hindenburg's emer, 14 Dec 2016 @ 1:47am

    Re: Re: Re: As it should be!

    "Nations get the government's they deserve..."

    Hahahahahahah! Bullcrap. You clearly don't know history pal. Hitler's ghost and the rise of the National Socialist Party in Germany just took a giant dump on your shitty opinion.

    What you're doing is victim blaming in the most naive and infantile way. Does the word CHANGE not mean anything to you? Change? No? Because Hitler changed once he was in power, on day one. And no one saw what was coming.

    I'm betting when you read in the news about a nasty brutal case of domestic violence you think "well, it's her fault because she hooked up with the guy".

    I'm calling you a scumbag. And yeah, Godwin.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  34. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 1:56am

    Re: Everything is suspicious when you're looking for an easy payday

    I've heard that the police in the UK play car "snooker" (do you even have that in the States?)

    Points for red, yellow, green, brown, blue, pink, black cars. More points if you get them in order...

    link[link]

    link to this | view in thread ]

  35. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 4:13am

    Don't complain, taxpayers. Pay for the robbery with 40% discount.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  36. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 4:27am

    Re:

    It didn't cost them 40g.. the state retuned 90g then was sued and settled for another 60g so they made 50g by getting hornswaggled

    link to this | view in thread ]

  37. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 4:43am

    This guy's not pissed off at being pulled over for breaking the law = He's obviously guilty of something more serious!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  38. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 5:13am

    "Iowa Taxpayers Handing Out $60K Settlement To California Gamblers Who Were Legally Robbed Of $100K By State Troopers"

    Hang on a sec ... so the cops steal someone's money, were told that was wrong and (some of) the money has to be returned - and here's the interesting part - the tax payers have to foot the bill because the idiot cops already spent the money on hookers and coke. What a racket.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  39. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 5:15am

    Re: Re:

    Oh ... that makes it ok then

    link to this | view in thread ]

  40. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 5:18am

    Re: Re: Re: As it should be!

    "I am talking about whole groups of people."

    Oh, you mean stereotyping?
    Something like, if your skin color is .... then ....

    link to this | view in thread ]

  41. identicon
    I.T. Guy, 14 Dec 2016 @ 6:34am

    Re: Re: Re: As it should be!

    Whoosh!!! Moron. I asked you exactly what I wanted to. DONT THINK!!! It's what gets you into trouble.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  42. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 6:48am

    Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    The debate tactics of a juvenile.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  43. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 6:51am

    Re: The problem is multifaceted

    So - apparently you believe in third party liability.

    Please go stick your head in a toilet.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  44. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 6:54am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    If you are wrong - others need to inform you of same?

    Why?

    You could be allowed to continue in your ignorant ways and it might not be to the detriment of society, who knows? Who cares?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  45. icon
    McFortner (profile), 14 Dec 2016 @ 6:57am

    To quote the Star Wars fan film TROOPS

    "All suspects are guilty, PERIOD. Otherwise, they wouldn't be suspect would they?"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvswNDAAZCU

    link to this | view in thread ]

  46. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 8:14am

    Re: Re: Re:

    No it doesn't. But it is what happened. A statement of fact is not an endorsement of the fact. I know it is confusing for some people, but if you learn this simple rule it will make you a better person ;-)

    link to this | view in thread ]

  47. identicon
    Dave P., 14 Dec 2016 @ 10:29am

    Why not all the money?

    From my viewpoint across the pond, I don't understand (unless I'm missing something) why they are not getting ALL the money back (plus interest), if 100K is what was "stolen" in the first place. How come only 60K seems to be the sum?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  48. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Dec 2016 @ 11:32am

    The state police returned $90,000. the victims sued for the balance plus legal fees etc and settled for an additional $60,000.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  49. icon
    Derek Kerton (profile), 14 Dec 2016 @ 12:23pm

    P P P Poker Face P P Poker Face - I love it

    Those two CA guys should have used their Poker Faces when they were pulled over.

    It'd be like the Obi Wan Landspeeder pull-over stop.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  50. identicon
    Wendy Cockcroft, 15 Dec 2016 @ 6:05am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    Be fair, That One Guy; I think that what he really means is that the public needs to be more willing to hold their representatives' feet to the fire over incidents like this instead of automatically kow-towing to authority figures and keeping their heads down.

    I share that opinion. Your civic duty doesn't end at the ballot box on election day.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  51. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Dec 2016 @ 6:53am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The best job around

    Yup, its your duty to stare down the scooperz

    link to this | view in thread ]

  52. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Dec 2016 @ 6:55am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Ever heard of the word sarcasm?

    link to this | view in thread ]


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