Any rough estimates on how much they think this will pull in per year.(200,300, 400, million year) I wonder how that money gets divided and how the artist are going to get from that.
I also believe this is going to make it easier for them to go after people as those tracks will be watermarked with people's iTunes account info, so they are triple dipping they hope.
There's a lot of questions left out that need to be answered I wonder when all the pieces will fall into place and we get some real info.
1. They save a ton on bandwith, no uploading of tons of mp3s. They also save terabytes of storage since they only have pointer to files they already have.
2. Locks people further into their hardware and more their software platform. (ie I tunes and AAC file format)
With Apple finally speaking up and saying their developers didn't infringe and are covered by Apple's license of said patent they were forced to move up the lawsuit. I guess they don't want to give the developers or especially Apple and EFF time to set up a solid defense against Lodsys. What's odd about all this, has Google or Microsoft spoken about this yet? Those developers targets also?
Years ago when i bought zone alarm from checkpoint they offered the same type insurance option for a price. I gladly declined and made sure to backup the file to multiply places.
"What the labels say they can't live with is easily searchable unauthorized downloads, where the unauthorized copy becomes easier to find than the authorized copy. (I'm passing along a distant memory of Big Content's point of view, remember.)"
LMAO
Sure they wanted to give people options that made sense to the consumer and build up brand loyalty. Instead of jamming all types BS down people throats with there take it leave it approach.
"Can anyone tell me why these industries are not putting their efforts into going after the actual infringers? Just because it's hard, doesn't mean it can't be done."
Forgot to answer this part and simple to answer. They don't want spend(or justify) money on something that's not going to directly make them money. Why spend a million dollars going after these sites if you can take that money and give it to some lobbyist so they can get our government to make stupid laws and spend tens of millions of dollars to do their dirty work. Since we all know government money is free money why not use it.
"I must be missing something. Why are all the labels and other industry types focused on Google? Google is not infringing. "
Because they operate under the assumption that you need to have 100% control of the product pre/post sale. If you don't someone can out maneuver you and come up with new and innovative ways for people to get what they want. That's what Google is trying to do.
Why would you want these morons working for you? All the executives are under contract as well possibly owning stock options. It might cost you more to get rid of them then what the asking price would be and to top that off the slim bags would probably group back and tell the artists how to get outta there contracts and sign up with their new hell spawn they would create after leaving Google.
"In their minds, I think that the enormous cost of fighting piracy is worth it, once they find the "solution". That is, the labels think that with enough tries, sooner or later they will find the magic bullet that kills off piracy."
My view is that piracy is the by-product of them trying to explain why didn't they make more money or diverting blame from themselves. If piracy were eliminated they move on to radio saying that people aren't buying our music when they can listen to it for free. So lets charge radio even more money. They will keep moving to the next thing till the they come back to the first thing and keep going around.
Re: Google does nothing because it is in Google's interests to do nothing.
Hey piracy was thriving in before Google's creators were outta high school, or is it your that belief that piracy never existed till Google was created?
But...But isn't fantasy-land right next to candy-land and who doesn't like candy.? Taking a stab their type of thinking, if Google is willing to pay 100 million that has to mean that it's really worth 300 million plus and Google is trying to make money of their hard work. So by that estimate when you include Apple, Microsoft and few minor players that's 1 billion plus out there. They will always stick to fantasy-land because of delusional belief of what they assume the value is. They don't want anybody making a buck unless they can get their 70 to 80% cut some how.
So your saying that none of the companies involved in the probe( IE Goldman Sachs) not a NYSE member? That none of the stocks they are accused trading with insider info are part of the NYSE?
The funny thing is that Apple is the one who triggered all this by forcing everyone to their in app purchasing scheme so they can pocket the 30% fee. I really wonder what all the big periodicals are thinking since they took apple's bait and announced their products for the I-pad. I thought Apple was going to to come out with the guns firing, instead we got this mildly passive response. I wondering if Lodsys end game is to get Apple to fork over a little cash at them to go away and Apple to look like a knight in shinning armor. Then Lodsys can turn around and squeeze Google and Microsoft.
I understand your pain, I used to work trade shows back the commodore Amiga days. New York and Chicago were the worst. Try moving a monitor or computer without a union person and you catch hell.
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I though that feature was only between Macs?
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I also believe this is going to make it easier for them to go after people as those tracks will be watermarked with people's iTunes account info, so they are triple dipping they hope.
There's a lot of questions left out that need to be answered I wonder when all the pieces will fall into place and we get some real info.
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1. They save a ton on bandwith, no uploading of tons of mp3s. They also save terabytes of storage since they only have pointer to files they already have.
2. Locks people further into their hardware and more their software platform. (ie I tunes and AAC file format)
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LMAO
Sure they wanted to give people options that made sense to the consumer and build up brand loyalty. Instead of jamming all types BS down people throats with there take it leave it approach.
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Re: Am I Missing Something
Forgot to answer this part and simple to answer. They don't want spend(or justify) money on something that's not going to directly make them money. Why spend a million dollars going after these sites if you can take that money and give it to some lobbyist so they can get our government to make stupid laws and spend tens of millions of dollars to do their dirty work. Since we all know government money is free money why not use it.
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Re: Am I Missing Something
Because they operate under the assumption that you need to have 100% control of the product pre/post sale. If you don't someone can out maneuver you and come up with new and innovative ways for people to get what they want. That's what Google is trying to do.
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Re: What we really need to do...
Why would you want these morons working for you? All the executives are under contract as well possibly owning stock options. It might cost you more to get rid of them then what the asking price would be and to top that off the slim bags would probably group back and tell the artists how to get outta there contracts and sign up with their new hell spawn they would create after leaving Google.
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Please explain how piracy is to blame for this? The dam thing grossed over 220 + million.
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My view is that piracy is the by-product of them trying to explain why didn't they make more money or diverting blame from themselves. If piracy were eliminated they move on to radio saying that people aren't buying our music when they can listen to it for free. So lets charge radio even more money. They will keep moving to the next thing till the they come back to the first thing and keep going around.
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Re: Google does nothing because it is in Google's interests to do nothing.
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