If the price on games is too high, why not drop the price? That should be an indicator that people are going to spend their money elsewhere if the value of the game isn't to their liking.
1) They've done a ton of damage with the SYG laws.
2) The work to undo their damage is far from over.
The SYG is already on the books in over 30 different states through heavy funding of Republicans to pass these laws. That's one of the myriad reasons why Scott Walker is so vilified in Wisconsin. He takes money from teachers in order to give to crony capitalism.
This does not change how the law has been very devastating against people who are victims to this bought legislation. ALEC's legislation disparages against human life with Voter ID laws (discriminate against the poor and middle class), extreme gun laws (Trayvon Martin) and even lobbying on corporate businesses (AT&T is their largest constituent along with Wal-Mart).
So the fact is, we need to expose CTIA and ALEC. They are going to act in their own interest and that works against the public good.
Someone like 50 Cent is in the perfect position to raise more awareness of broken copyright law, and I hope that this attack on the lifeblood of hip-hop culture spurs him to do so.
They won't because of their contracts. They're 360 deals that effectively tie them into the broken world of copyright. And Young Guru has had a lot to say about this specific problem. His best advice? Don't get into the situation in the first place.
It seems there's more to this story than at first viewing. CTIA and ALEC are very closely knit where ALEC passes legislation to politicians for passing. The mobile phone industry profits from less restrictions on user data. They can pass that data on to the government who pays through taxpayer money (think Intel-Q, who funds the NSA with venture capitol) for access. So effectively they are incentivized not to care about customers, but care about their bottom lines.
Of course, ALEC has been taking a lot of flak for the Stand Your Ground laws as well as even IRS proceedings from the fact that they have been lobbying Congress for over 40 years with legislation meant to benefit companies such as AT&T, Walmart, or CTIA regardless of what the public wants.
Sure, we can criticize CTIA here and put their feet to the fire. But with a company such as ALEC in the picture, I would look at who is being funded by these two groups to kill this legislation. It would not surprise me that you'll see money being given to oppose this legislation and give those funded talking points that closely align with CTIA's agenda here. And in the middle of it, ALEC would have set up the meeting between CTIA lobbyists and politicians to pass a bill to kill this legislation.
States should start remembering that they have rights too, and begin to exert them.
If you believe in states' rights, I got news for ya... It ain't really the case. Further, the blue (Dem) states have done quite well while the Red (Rep) have been suffering with their austerity plans. But I'll tell you exactly how to fix the system:
Abolish the Electoral college. There's better systems and quite frankly it's the way to begin the process of allowing better candidates into the White House.
How? You don't have enough good reps to outweigh the bad. You have a Judicial system that works against you. And you have a President that is forced into more authoritarian positions by the pressure of a consolidated media industry.
The deck is significantly in the favor of those wishing to subvert and control democracy.
The point of going after a pirate isn't to suddenly get them to pay, as much as to get them to stop poisoning your current paying customer pool by "teaching" them it's free. Open and public piracy is a grand lesson in mob mentality, in "what can I get away with when I have the cover of millions of others". If you simplistically think that stopping piracy is to get the pirate to suddenly pay, then you have fallen for one of the big pirate strawmen (and yes, a big Techdirt strawman too)
10 years of going after Pirate Bay. What has it done other than make the site more resilient to take down? Oh yeah, even *more* people go to the Pirate Bay. Google shut down autocomplete for Pirate Bay. People now use "The Pirate Bay" as their top link.
Great strawman marred in truth. Keep fighting that windmill.
"don't do that" is a simplistic answer to something that is huge.
Excellent dodge. How about answering the question presented instead of BS answers?
. Most movies are released to home in a pretty short time after their movie release (less than 6 months), and often the home version in the US is out in only 3 or 4 months. Remember, a good movie might run 2 months in theaters alone (at $10 a ticket), why would they want to hurt that business to rush to sell a DVD?
Considering that most movies are released these days is about the $15 - $18 range, and can be obtained through various services as rentals for about $1, or seen on PPV for a few dollars, price really shouldn't be an issue.
Price is not an issue. Value is. Also, there are less people inclined to pay $20 for a DVD with no extras now that Hulu and Netflix have shown the effectiveness of streaming.
. Pirating it because it's not worth it smacks of self-justification.
Just to help you out, if someone doesn't know about the movie, they probably haven't pirated it. They probably never watched it. You seem intent on always placing those that don't watch something as somehow pirating it. You should stop doing that.
Pirates justify like mad.
Look in the mirror.
They blame the system for not giving them what they want, when they want, and at a price they want, regardless if any of those things makes any sense at all beyond their own wants.
Drop the price, shorten the delivery windows, release worldwide at the same moment for everything, and they would justify piracy because the cover art on the box isn't pretty enough.
How about they try everything that we've been telling you for months instead of trying to justify your anti-piracy stance that makes no sense?
No matter how much the movie industry would do to meet them half way, nothing would change their mentality.
That's because the movie industry wants everyone to meet them at the opposite end goal. Cut copyright length, stop trying to criminalize consumers, adapt, and innovate, then we'll talk.
It's a losing battle to try to cater to the entertainment terrorists. You give them what they want, and they will just come up with 10 more demands. What good is that?
It's called "The market" and they need to cater to it. I know that's something they haven't done in the past 40 years, but it's a great time to start now.
I don't see anywhere that he says he does without. He makes it abundantly clear that he knows how to pirate, and would pirate anything he wants. He's about not paying the money when he thinks they don't "deserve" it, but he certainly doesn't say he does without the content.
Semantics failure. He could pirate if he wanted to. There is nothing in what Josh says that indicates he pirates. Matter of fact, if you were to look at his post history, it would tell you that he does not pirate. He just knows how to if that was something he was inclined to do.
Wow, talk about not getting it. I am not telling anyone to "meet me half way" - I am say that if your convictions are "I don't want to pay for your content" then the rest of your conviction should be "and I am not going to enjoy it either".
The 12th Amendment (ie the Electoral College) was a compromise with the states for the 3/5th clause in keeping and maintaining slaves. It fit with John Adams' view that we needed a strong plutocracy of governance with a higher emphasis on "states rights".
There are much better alternatives in picking the president than the EC and it's time to take a progressive approach to the Constitution. So long as we keep the EC, you'll never have a true democracy where the people have a choice.
Yes, the Constitution is wrong and it's been destroyed in the recent years. That doesn't mean that it can't be fixed. Just that we need to recognize the failings and move forward in allowing the majority a better say in how the country develops.
I've advocated flour electoral reform. We need people to fight the c. Umited decision, then push to revoke the 12th Amendment. After, we can push for better politicians instead of the facsists we have now. (yes, look at the merger of state and private interests. )
We have a lot of work to be done and it starts by recognizing and eliminating the problems of our electoral system.
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IIRC, the EU was doing this to generics in India and that has the effect of increasing the prices on drugs exorbitantly.
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People already found scarcities to sell on farms
You might wanna keep up.
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1) They've done a ton of damage with the SYG laws.
2) The work to undo their damage is far from over.
The SYG is already on the books in over 30 different states through heavy funding of Republicans to pass these laws. That's one of the myriad reasons why Scott Walker is so vilified in Wisconsin. He takes money from teachers in order to give to crony capitalism.
This does not change how the law has been very devastating against people who are victims to this bought legislation. ALEC's legislation disparages against human life with Voter ID laws (discriminate against the poor and middle class), extreme gun laws (Trayvon Martin) and even lobbying on corporate businesses (AT&T is their largest constituent along with Wal-Mart).
So the fact is, we need to expose CTIA and ALEC. They are going to act in their own interest and that works against the public good.
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A little old but...
They won't because of their contracts. They're 360 deals that effectively tie them into the broken world of copyright. And Young Guru has had a lot to say about this specific problem. His best advice? Don't get into the situation in the first place.
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More to the story...
Of course, ALEC has been taking a lot of flak for the Stand Your Ground laws as well as even IRS proceedings from the fact that they have been lobbying Congress for over 40 years with legislation meant to benefit companies such as AT&T, Walmart, or CTIA regardless of what the public wants.
Sure, we can criticize CTIA here and put their feet to the fire. But with a company such as ALEC in the picture, I would look at who is being funded by these two groups to kill this legislation. It would not surprise me that you'll see money being given to oppose this legislation and give those funded talking points that closely align with CTIA's agenda here. And in the middle of it, ALEC would have set up the meeting between CTIA lobbyists and politicians to pass a bill to kill this legislation.
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Red states take more money in federal spending than blue states.
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... Where only LucasArts can work on the Star Wars franchise and decide where it will be monetized and distributed. Do you realize what a monopoly is?
A monopoly would suggest you have only one source for all movies and no option, and that is just not the case, sorry!
I don't even know what the hell you're trying to imply here.
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If you believe in states' rights, I got news for ya... It ain't really the case. Further, the blue (Dem) states have done quite well while the Red (Rep) have been suffering with their austerity plans. But I'll tell you exactly how to fix the system:
Abolish the Electoral college. There's better systems and quite frankly it's the way to begin the process of allowing better candidates into the White House.
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The deck is significantly in the favor of those wishing to subvert and control democracy.
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10 years of going after Pirate Bay. What has it done other than make the site more resilient to take down? Oh yeah, even *more* people go to the Pirate Bay. Google shut down autocomplete for Pirate Bay. People now use "The Pirate Bay" as their top link.
Great strawman marred in truth. Keep fighting that windmill.
"don't do that" is a simplistic answer to something that is huge.
Excellent dodge. How about answering the question presented instead of BS answers?
. Most movies are released to home in a pretty short time after their movie release (less than 6 months), and often the home version in the US is out in only 3 or 4 months. Remember, a good movie might run 2 months in theaters alone (at $10 a ticket), why would they want to hurt that business to rush to sell a DVD?
Because delaying content leaves money on the table.
Considering that most movies are released these days is about the $15 - $18 range, and can be obtained through various services as rentals for about $1, or seen on PPV for a few dollars, price really shouldn't be an issue.
Price is not an issue. Value is. Also, there are less people inclined to pay $20 for a DVD with no extras now that Hulu and Netflix have shown the effectiveness of streaming.
. Pirating it because it's not worth it smacks of self-justification.
Just to help you out, if someone doesn't know about the movie, they probably haven't pirated it. They probably never watched it. You seem intent on always placing those that don't watch something as somehow pirating it. You should stop doing that.
Pirates justify like mad.
Look in the mirror.
They blame the system for not giving them what they want, when they want, and at a price they want, regardless if any of those things makes any sense at all beyond their own wants.
Nope. Or else the people wouldn't be paying for content
There is no positive outcome.
AHEM. Look again.
Drop the price, shorten the delivery windows, release worldwide at the same moment for everything, and they would justify piracy because the cover art on the box isn't pretty enough.
How about they try everything that we've been telling you for months instead of trying to justify your anti-piracy stance that makes no sense?
No matter how much the movie industry would do to meet them half way, nothing would change their mentality.
That's because the movie industry wants everyone to meet them at the opposite end goal. Cut copyright length, stop trying to criminalize consumers, adapt, and innovate, then we'll talk.
It's a losing battle to try to cater to the entertainment terrorists. You give them what they want, and they will just come up with 10 more demands. What good is that?
It's called "The market" and they need to cater to it. I know that's something they haven't done in the past 40 years, but it's a great time to start now.
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Why do you insist that he does?
What is so hard for you to understand that people have alternatives that they do not have to pay for in regards to entertainment?
Maybe he plays video games.
Maybe he listens to free music.
Maybe he whittles.
But *you* don't have control of his expenditures. Quit acting as if you are.
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Semantics failure. He could pirate if he wanted to. There is nothing in what Josh says that indicates he pirates. Matter of fact, if you were to look at his post history, it would tell you that he does not pirate. He just knows how to if that was something he was inclined to do.
Wow, talk about not getting it. I am not telling anyone to "meet me half way" - I am say that if your convictions are "I don't want to pay for your content" then the rest of your conviction should be "and I am not going to enjoy it either".
Strawman argument failure. No one here has pirated anything. Everyone has found alternatives. Instead of paying $20 for a CD, people have found free alternatives for music on Youtube and Jamendo. Instead of having to pay for an HBO subscription, people have to to watch an episode. But obviously, people wanting to know what all the fuss is about is beyond your comprehension.
Your whole rant about "REASONABLE prices" is all about trying to make the music and movie industry do it your way, on your terms. Don't you get it? If there is such a big hole in the market, why isn't anyone filling it?
It's amazing how you can't see piracy as competition but can't notice how the music and movie industry impede on legal alternatives...
Start telling us where you get the "new" content instead.
Easy, people are creating new networks that route around the big studios. They won't be around in the same capacity in the next few years.
Support those with the models you like, stop trying to make other people do it your way.
And that's why the Geek sundry has gotten popular rather quickly. But obviously, these little networks and little Pirate Bays and new shows are beyond your grasp, eh?
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There are much better alternatives in picking the president than the EC and it's time to take a progressive approach to the Constitution. So long as we keep the EC, you'll never have a true democracy where the people have a choice.
Yes, the Constitution is wrong and it's been destroyed in the recent years. That doesn't mean that it can't be fixed. Just that we need to recognize the failings and move forward in allowing the majority a better say in how the country develops.
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We have a lot of work to be done and it starts by recognizing and eliminating the problems of our electoral system.
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