Until death is still too long. The 14 years + seven if required idea seems reasonable to me. Also, all copyrightable items must be registered for it to count. Automatic copyright is a problem as orphan works, i.e. those whose creator hasn't been identified, can't be used without risk of being subject to a lawsuit.
They became conflated because the right refused to disown them like sensible people. I routinely disown them only to be called a leftie.
When they learn to clean house and keep it clean, then conservatives will regain the respect they used to have as the designated drivers they're supposed to be.
So if I am an Iraqi that has grown up under the miserable failure that is the Iraq War/Occupation/What-exactly-is-it-again? and call for my people to stand up and reclaim our homeland through violence if necessary... Who's terrorist am I? Certainly not to my own people.
Here's the problem: the land we call Iraq was a hodge-podge put together by the British after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, and was therefore populated by a hodge-podge of people with little in common with each other.
Saddam was a monstrous dictator with this in his favour: he kept a lid on the endemic violence in that much of it was committed by himself and his atrocious sons Uday and Qusay.
What I'm saying is, they weren't one big happy family before the West piled in and divvied up the spoils during the invasion, they were an inch from being a failed state due to the constant religious infighting. Fun fact: the various factions love blowing up each others' holy sites and shrines.
So then, the terrorists that roam freely through the land today committing acts of horrible violence are mostly doing this to their own people; we're in the way because we don't understand why they're doing this and our ham-fisted efforts to impose order haven't worked.
That Daesh sprang from the Iraqi prisons set up to hold insurgents is a case in point. Look at what they do when they're not doing it to us. That's what I'm talking about. It's really not that simple.
I can say the exact same thing for the Irish edition: they're nasty as hell to their friends and neighbours. Nationalism is only a fig leaf for criminal activity.
I agree in full about ill-advised foreign policy since that's what created this mess back in the day and the follow-up is why it continues to haunt us now.
Dear conservatives, this is what happens when you don't keep the house clean: all sorts of loonies and weirdos rock up claiming to be conservatives and letting the side down -- all the way down.
Now "loonies and weirdos" = "conservative. You own this!
True story. A man committed suicide after failing the polygraph test on the Jeremy Kyle show. They've pulled the plug on the show as a result because baiting desperate people is cruel.
Did he cheat on his fiancee? Probably not, but he made 300 calls to get on the show. That's a lot of effort to go to so I daresay the answer is no based on how eager he was go public with this.
I'm starting to think that polygraph testing ought to be illegal as the psychological pressure has already led to suicide in at least one vulnerable person.
^This. When I wanted troll crap about me removed I approached the platforms with evidence and politely pointed out that the "reviews" weren't accurate. They removed them at once, with the exception of the one Hamilton keeps bringing up. I left a rebuttal up that proves it's a troll post so anyone who reads it will see the rebuttal, so Hamilton self-owns every time he posts it.
^This. One's reputation is predicated on one's own conduct. When people say things about a person, it causes people to look them up to find out what the fuss is about. Anyone who looks me up finds a gobby Irishwoman fascinated by tech and the internet, not a cackling villain.
^This. Article of faith: copyright is a fountain flowing deep and wide for all who hold it dear. And if you're British, it's the principle of the thing, damn it!
Not really having a go at Brits per se, just annoyed as hell that logic takes a back seat where a principle is at stake. See Brexit for details.
No one should have to answer to internet lies over which they cannot sue. No one should be forced to engage in expensive an impossible litigation just because one person with an axe to grind weaponized search engines by defaming them.
I've been there as the victim. Random troll makes up lies and posts them to a review website, then resident troll "Hamilton" makes a career out of posting links to the lies and copying and pasting the lies over and over again here on TD.
Not Google's fault because Hamilton was able to find them, not ROR's fault for hosting them even though they've been provided with proof that it's a troll post; it's the troll's fault for posting those lies. And as I've stated many times before, actual harm means something harmful happens. Being hauled into the office to explain to my bosses why they were being directly contacted with links to the troll post and a request to fire me is not actual harm. Being fired would have been, but I wasn't fired. I was later promoted.
Ultimately, the only harm that was done in my case was to ROR as they can't be relied upon to provide accurate and truthful reviews on services because they won't remove troll posts even if you pay them to; they'll only remove the parts a lawyer declares are actually harmful. The rest of the "review" will remain in place. They also offer to downgrade the search results of the dodgy reviews if you pay them but they'll never remove them.
If anyone weaponised anything in my case it was the original troll, who has since found another bridge to lurk beneath, and our dear friend Hamilton, who proves you wrong every time he takes yet another pop at me. As for the "weapon," imagine a water pistol that merely drips on the floor. That's how effective lies are when nobody believes them.
No one has a problem with politicians raising funds for their campaigns, we just object to them raising funds from lobbyists whom they effectively work for. It's a massive conflict of interest.
That's the troll post I proved was a troll post which is why I'm still employed by the people who called me into the office to discuss the above.
Actual harm? Not really, since no one believes it. Besides, extortion is a criminal offense. Were any of that troll post true, I'd be in jail and would totally deserve to be.
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There you go, asserting facts in evidence again, Stephen.
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Digital edition? According to the mad religious conspiracy theorists we should all be walking about with barcodes on our heads and hands by now.
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Re: Re: Colons
LOL! I believe some fibre deployment might be in order...
...I'll see myself out.
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Re: What it really should be
Until death is still too long. The 14 years + seven if required idea seems reasonable to me. Also, all copyrightable items must be registered for it to count. Automatic copyright is a problem as orphan works, i.e. those whose creator hasn't been identified, can't be used without risk of being subject to a lawsuit.
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Re: Re: Re: Oh Copyright!
*Conservatives are all over copyright because they think it's actual PROPERTY.
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Re: Re: Oh Copyright!
LOL @ the idea that conservatives will sort this out.
Conservatives are all over copyright because they think it's actual copyright.
Lefties are all over copyright because they believe it upholds the worker's right to be paid for the work they do.
Liberals are all over copyright because they believe it's a tradeable item, therefore the market will decide on whether or not the item sells.
The only political ideology that accurately addresses the problem of copyright creep is Pirate.
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Re: Re: Oh Copyright!
Moderation.
On.
Privately.
Owned.
Platforms.
Doesn't.
Impact.
On.
First.
Amendment.
Rights.
You troll.
On the post: Governments And Internet Companies Agree On Questionable Voluntary Pact On Extremist Content Online
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They became conflated because the right refused to disown them like sensible people. I routinely disown them only to be called a leftie.
When they learn to clean house and keep it clean, then conservatives will regain the respect they used to have as the designated drivers they're supposed to be.
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Erm... oh, dear.
So if I am an Iraqi that has grown up under the miserable failure that is the Iraq War/Occupation/What-exactly-is-it-again? and call for my people to stand up and reclaim our homeland through violence if necessary... Who's terrorist am I? Certainly not to my own people.
Here's the problem: the land we call Iraq was a hodge-podge put together by the British after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, and was therefore populated by a hodge-podge of people with little in common with each other.
Saddam was a monstrous dictator with this in his favour: he kept a lid on the endemic violence in that much of it was committed by himself and his atrocious sons Uday and Qusay.
What I'm saying is, they weren't one big happy family before the West piled in and divvied up the spoils during the invasion, they were an inch from being a failed state due to the constant religious infighting. Fun fact: the various factions love blowing up each others' holy sites and shrines.
So then, the terrorists that roam freely through the land today committing acts of horrible violence are mostly doing this to their own people; we're in the way because we don't understand why they're doing this and our ham-fisted efforts to impose order haven't worked.
That Daesh sprang from the Iraqi prisons set up to hold insurgents is a case in point. Look at what they do when they're not doing it to us. That's what I'm talking about. It's really not that simple.
I can say the exact same thing for the Irish edition: they're nasty as hell to their friends and neighbours. Nationalism is only a fig leaf for criminal activity.
I agree in full about ill-advised foreign policy since that's what created this mess back in the day and the follow-up is why it continues to haunt us now.
On the post: White House Sets Up Echo Chamber For Complaints About Social Media Bias Against Conservatives
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Dear conservatives, this is what happens when you don't keep the house clean: all sorts of loonies and weirdos rock up claiming to be conservatives and letting the side down -- all the way down.
Now "loonies and weirdos" = "conservative. You own this!
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Re: Tabled the ammendment
To be fair, Tim did clarify by adding, "...so it is no longer being considered during this round of budget debates."
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True story. A man committed suicide after failing the polygraph test on the Jeremy Kyle show. They've pulled the plug on the show as a result because baiting desperate people is cruel.
Did he cheat on his fiancee? Probably not, but he made 300 calls to get on the show. That's a lot of effort to go to so I daresay the answer is no based on how eager he was go public with this.
I'm starting to think that polygraph testing ought to be illegal as the psychological pressure has already led to suicide in at least one vulnerable person.
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^This. When I wanted troll crap about me removed I approached the platforms with evidence and politely pointed out that the "reviews" weren't accurate. They removed them at once, with the exception of the one Hamilton keeps bringing up. I left a rebuttal up that proves it's a troll post so anyone who reads it will see the rebuttal, so Hamilton self-owns every time he posts it.
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^This. One's reputation is predicated on one's own conduct. When people say things about a person, it causes people to look them up to find out what the fuss is about. Anyone who looks me up finds a gobby Irishwoman fascinated by tech and the internet, not a cackling villain.
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^This. Article of faith: copyright is a fountain flowing deep and wide for all who hold it dear. And if you're British, it's the principle of the thing, damn it!
Not really having a go at Brits per se, just annoyed as hell that logic takes a back seat where a principle is at stake. See Brexit for details.
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Re: Re: Re:
No one should have to answer to internet lies over which they cannot sue. No one should be forced to engage in expensive an impossible litigation just because one person with an axe to grind weaponized search engines by defaming them.
I've been there as the victim. Random troll makes up lies and posts them to a review website, then resident troll "Hamilton" makes a career out of posting links to the lies and copying and pasting the lies over and over again here on TD.
Not Google's fault because Hamilton was able to find them, not ROR's fault for hosting them even though they've been provided with proof that it's a troll post; it's the troll's fault for posting those lies. And as I've stated many times before, actual harm means something harmful happens. Being hauled into the office to explain to my bosses why they were being directly contacted with links to the troll post and a request to fire me is not actual harm. Being fired would have been, but I wasn't fired. I was later promoted.
Ultimately, the only harm that was done in my case was to ROR as they can't be relied upon to provide accurate and truthful reviews on services because they won't remove troll posts even if you pay them to; they'll only remove the parts a lawyer declares are actually harmful. The rest of the "review" will remain in place. They also offer to downgrade the search results of the dodgy reviews if you pay them but they'll never remove them.
If anyone weaponised anything in my case it was the original troll, who has since found another bridge to lurk beneath, and our dear friend Hamilton, who proves you wrong every time he takes yet another pop at me. As for the "weapon," imagine a water pistol that merely drips on the floor. That's how effective lies are when nobody believes them.
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Re: Don’t stop there
No one has a problem with politicians raising funds for their campaigns, we just object to them raising funds from lobbyists whom they effectively work for. It's a massive conflict of interest.
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Re: Re: Re: No problem in Europe
I've had them at work and on my mobile; it's usually PPI claims solicitors trying to get me to sign up. I just drop the phone on them.
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^This.
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And defames me as though his life depended on it.
That's the troll post I proved was a troll post which is why I'm still employed by the people who called me into the office to discuss the above.
Actual harm? Not really, since no one believes it. Besides, extortion is a criminal offense. Were any of that troll post true, I'd be in jail and would totally deserve to be.
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