Democrats believe that districts should be proportional to the vote. … Republicans on the other hand view congressional districts as geographic communities representing the communities interest not parties.
Two things.
Yeah, no, Republicans view districts as partisan power grabs; read the story I linked above.
Land doesn’t vote—so districts should be determined by nonpartisan factors such as population and county lines, not by “communities” (and the landmasses that would best encompass them for the sake of a partisan advantage).
I have problems with [lawsuits] like this. Which have no public good to them and are a risk to the same public.
Again: Dominion wouldn’t have brought these lawsuits if any of the higher-ups/legal beagles thought those suits would result in the kind of consequences you want us to believe will happen. While the kind of exposure you speak of is possible—nothing’s perfect, after all—the chances of it happening have to be relatively low for Dominion to keep the suits alive. To put it bluntly, Dominion isn’t backing down because its cost/benefit analysis is far more informed than yours.
I’m just unwilling to pretend there are hidden conspiracy messages in every statement.
And I haven’t said or done anything to even imply such a thing. But if you plan to keep denying the existence of coded language/political dogwhistles by insulting people who accept and understand that such speech exists, don’t be surprised when commenters here treat you like someone who literally can’t grasp the concept of “usage can differ from actual meaning” would work.
I’m against conflation of separate events as a single moment.
Yes, yes, you think all the insurrectionists collectively had the exact same idea to march to the Capitol in a magical moment of lucidity that happened independently from the speech Trump gave about patriots and stopping the steal and how his supporters needed to protect American democracy mere minutes before the insurrection began. We get it.
I’m absolutely against lying about what a person actually says when the record is available.
So am I. But I’ve never once lied about anything Trump said. Have I used hyperbolic paraphrasing? Sure. But when I deem it necessary to quote the man directly, I’ve done exactly that. (And I fucking hate quoting him because it means I have to read shit he said or wrote. I make myself suffer to achieve that accuracy, you son of a bitch.) That I see subtext where you see literal text is your issue; I can’t help you understand how a word’s meaning to a given audience can be changed by its usage in a given context.
I don’t agree with all of Trump’s decisions. Just enough to not regret my choice.
I was right—you lack the moral courage to denounce your Dear Leader for the authoritarian asshole he really is. If Biden was even half as bad as Trump, I’d already be doing that. How far backwards are you willing to bend for him, man? How much bullshit are you really willing to overlook for the sake of voting a fascist into office?
You claim I imply things I don’t because you don’t take posts at face value.
Your problem is that you take literally everything literally. I can’t educate you on how subtext works in political speech because you’re seemingly incapable of understanding even the idea of subtext. That’s not my problem to solve, and I’ll be god-fucking-damned if you think I need to shoulder that impossible responsibility.
you have never shown a single point of me agreeing with the far right
You literally said earlier in your comment that “I still think [Trump] was twice the better choice”. The far right agrees with you on that (albeit maybe not for the same reasons). Hell, every time you’re confronted with criticism of Donald Trump’s time in office, you deflect and downplay with a fervor and stubbornness that only the far right can outmatch.
You can’t admit that he tried to do away with Obamacare without having a plan to replace it; you always go “it was repeal-and-replace” while ignoring how he never had “replace” ready at any point in his presidency. You can’t admit that he implied household disinfectants were a possible treatment for COVID; you always go “he never actually said ‘drink bleach’ ” and ignore the context in which he made his comments. (Again: Subtext and context are concepts you seem unable to comprehend.) You can’t admit that he made any big fuck-ups—only small ones—and any big fuck-ups that I or others point out are either the fault of someone else or “not that big a deal”.
You sound like an alt-right dipshit—unknowingly or otherwise—because like many of those dipshits, you are literally incapable of meaningfully criticizing the four-year American nightmare that was the presidency of Donald Trump.
The Trumpian dipshits have had more than half a year to provide the evidence of their claims of a “stolen” election to the general public, the press, and actual courts of law. That they haven’t produced a shred of credible evidence for said claims is a sign that Dominion isn’t in nearly as much trouble as you seem to think they are.
I questioned the intelligence of going forward. Something you like to do every time a Republican brings a lawsuit.
I typically do that when the lawsuit is on shaky legal ground, which happens more often than not when right-wing cranks are involved. Dominion’s suits are on far more solid legal ground, so the only reason to “question[ ]the intelligence of going forward” in its cases is to instill doubts about how solid the cases are and make people consider that maybe the cranks have a point when they don’t. I promise you this: Dominion’s higher-ups and legal team(s) have considered every issue you’ve raised and more you haven’t even thought of. They wouldn’t have gone forward with the suits if they thought they were a bad idea. Stop trying to convince us otherwise; it’s not going to work.
Trump never was a Dear Leader to me.
Everything you’ve done to defend him and his administration says otherwise, but feel free to believe your alternative facts if it makes you feel better, you discount-store Sean Spicer.
You have a bit of an obsession in finding what the far right says and painting that to be the opinion of anyone who disagrees with you.
No, I don’t. But I recognize right-wing crankery when I see it, and you’ve been parroting their shit since I can first remember seeing/replying to your posts. Whether you realize that—or care about that—is your problem, not mine.
As for ocd, I have a light bit of it myself.
Unless it’s been clinically diagnosed: No, you don’t. Stop making light of an actual mental illness, you ableist dick.
Hey, Koby: If Taliban members post content that isn’t calling for violence or terroristic acts, but their posts and accounts get deleted anyway, does that make their opinions the strongest? 🤨
You intentionally, and constintly, ignore my textual statements and immediately lump me into some class you believe I belong to.
Whether you know it or not, you parrot the talking points of right-wing cranks—including the ones being sued by Dominion. On top of that, you’ve bent so far backwards to defend Trump and his administration in the past that even Cirque du Soleil is impressed. We’re only categorizing your statements based on how they read to people who are well-versed in reading right-wing crankery (including the right-wing dogwhistles you don’t think exist). Don’t like it? Stop trying to sound like you’re looking for an on-air role at OAN.
I know you like your classing (ocd?)
Yes, it must be OCD, because anyone who does categorization of people into groups based on what they say and do must have a mental disease or defect~.
(By the by? Saying ableist bullshit is yet another way you come off as a right-wing dipshit.)
I ponder the the forethought in the lawsuits and you decide to claim I said they should drop it.
You seem to think Dominion higher-ups hadn’t considered the same issues as you did, Mr. Dunning-Kruger. I can assure you that they have—and so have the company lawyers. They wouldn’t have filed the lawsuits, or fought to keep them alive, if they were as afraid of discovery as you seem to think they should be.
And that I support stop the steal.
You’ve been touting your support for Trump for a while now. As far as I can recall, you’ve never explicitly and unequivocally denounced the “Stop the Steal” movement and the lies that sprang forth from it. Feel free to do that now…if you’ve finally developed the testicular fortitude necessary to deny your Dear Leader his alternative facts, that is.
I initially thought newsmax was a typo for Newsweek.
For someone who wants to act like they know a lot of shit about politics and political media, you’re not doing a good job at convincing us of that.
It has nothing to do with the truth of the claims.
An actual court of law says otherwise. Unless you’re on the bench in a higher court, your grossly misinformed SovCit interpretation of the law means nothing.
They are. Maybe not on every machine, but on enough machines that it’s not some one-county-in-the-entire-country rarity or some shit.
All I did was point out this may bite them in the arse.
And you keep pointing it out and questioning whether it was a wise decision to sue a bunch of grifting liars who lie and grift and have fucked around too long without finding out. You’re all but saying that Dominion should drop the suits even though it’s clearly not afraid of discovery—which says more about you (and which side you seem to support in this courtroom pitfight) than it does about Dominion.
Are you?
I’m Internet slapfighting with a pissant like you. Do you think I am?
Interesting you keep going back to this idea. I didn’t claim to be an expert.
And yet you’re acting like you’re smarter than the team of Dominion lawyers by questioning the decision to continue the lawsuits Dominion itself filed. Do you really fucking think they’d file the lawsuits if they were afraid of discovery?
What I said from the first post was: “I have no doubt they win the case.”
You don’t doubt they’ll win, but you doubt whether they should even have filed the lawsuits. You seem to believe their legal team knows what they’re doing, but you also seem to believe they’re making a mistake by opening Dominion up to discovery. Yeah, you said Dominion will likely win the case—and everything you’ve said about Dominion after that has been the equivalent of one long “but”. The only reason to express this much doubt in re: the decisions from Dominion is to dogwhistle support for the people/companies being sued.
For fuck’s sake, man, you have me defending a corporation like Dominion from an ignorant asshole like you. You’re not as slick as you think you are, you wannabe Trump.
Again: This assumes the people/companies being sued have people on their side who can find those bugs. Given the lack of evidence presented by Mike Lindell’s “we’re putting Trump back in office” symposium—and how one of his hand-picked experts said the “evidence” displayed there was bullshit—I wouldn’t count on that.
But it’s not just a right, it’s a duty.
But you don’t trust the system. Why bother voting if you don’t trust the system?
I don’t really care about why they’re suing nor who wins.
The fact that you have all but said you want Dominion to drop the lawsuits says otherwise.
It’s not the decision I would have made.
And that’s why you’re in an internet slapfight with me instead of running a billion-dollar corporation. You’re not as smart as you think you are, Mr. Dunning-Kruger.
To the people who think Dominion is afraid of the discovery phase of these lawsuits: Do you think the company would keep these lawsuits alive if it were?
If the security researchers are correct they may have a large problem they are even workin To correct (or not) privately. Which would likely come out in the open if true. Which would start a whole new round of “told you so” from the far right.
Even if this were to happen—and given the competency of the cranks being sued, that seems a longshot at best—so what? Dominion machines should be tested and bugs should be made known to Dominion so said bugs can be patched.
I don’t trust the system at all.
Then stop voting.
I’ve been in tech long enough to know there’s no such thing as totally secure
FYI: Giuliani, Newsmax, etc. aren’t being sued for saying “Dominion machines aren’t totally secure”. They’re being sued for saying “Dominion used insecure machines as part of an international plot to steal the 2020 election”.
As was pointed out in a different comment: Dominion’s security practices aren’t the direct subject of these lawsuits—the lies about those practices propagated by the cranks and grifters being sued are. Dominion can admit its machines have security flaws without hurting its case—because if the cranks want to hurt Dominion here, they have to prove their lies aren’t lies.
Again: Do you really think Dominion would be fighting to have its day in court against the cranks if the company was afraid of discovery?
Dominion is still going through with its cases. I doubt they’d do that if they thought they were going to expose all the secrets that the cranks think they know (but actually don’t because the secrets are all bullshit lies fed to them by even bigger liars). Dominion actively fought for (and won!) the right to have its claims against individual defendants (e.g., Giuliant) heard in court. I seriously doubt it would’ve fought for that right if the higher-ups in the company were worried about discovery.
we all know that Dominion cannot withstand discovery
Then why hasn’t Dominion dismissed its own lawsuits? Seems like they’re more than happy to proceed on that front if they’re fighting—successfully, might I add!—to keep those lawsuits alive.
Just because they weren’t hacked isn’t grounds to ignore the potential.
I would assume they aren’t. That said: What the fuck have the cranks offered in terms of highlighting unknown vulnerabilities that are actually based in fact?
can the company survive
What makes you think it can’t? The only “scandal” here belongs to the cranks who are lying about Dominion. The company itself, from all I’ve seen, has the complete upper hand in this nonsense.
I question not the motivation, but the cost of being right.
There is no real “cost” if the cranks are wrong—and they are. Whatever Dominion pays in legal fees will be more than made up by any cash reward (or cash settlement), and only the cranks will keep believing Chinese bamboo makers hacked the election with special thermometers designed to slip pre-filled paper ballots into the hands of the reptile people who secretly rig all U.S. elections. Or, y’know, whatever they happen to believe this week.
Listen, I sincerely despise the idea of defending corporations. They’d sooner kill me and turn my body into kindling than return the favor. But on every level except the moral one, Dominion is in the right. (Morally, I’d call this a wash, but that’s my anti-corporatism talking.) That you seem to think otherwise makes me think you’re not nearly as against the cranks as you profess to be.
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Can you tell me why dumbasses like you keep using the noun “bias” as an adjective when you mean to use “biased”?
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The problem for you is, we know Republicans are doing it—and they’re not shy about that fact, either.
Two things.
Yeah, no, Republicans view districts as partisan power grabs; read the story I linked above.
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Again: Dominion wouldn’t have brought these lawsuits if any of the higher-ups/legal beagles thought those suits would result in the kind of consequences you want us to believe will happen. While the kind of exposure you speak of is possible—nothing’s perfect, after all—the chances of it happening have to be relatively low for Dominion to keep the suits alive. To put it bluntly, Dominion isn’t backing down because its cost/benefit analysis is far more informed than yours.
And I haven’t said or done anything to even imply such a thing. But if you plan to keep denying the existence of coded language/political dogwhistles by insulting people who accept and understand that such speech exists, don’t be surprised when commenters here treat you like someone who literally can’t grasp the concept of “usage can differ from actual meaning” would work.
Yes, yes, you think all the insurrectionists collectively had the exact same idea to march to the Capitol in a magical moment of lucidity that happened independently from the speech Trump gave about patriots and stopping the steal and how his supporters needed to protect American democracy mere minutes before the insurrection began. We get it.
So am I. But I’ve never once lied about anything Trump said. Have I used hyperbolic paraphrasing? Sure. But when I deem it necessary to quote the man directly, I’ve done exactly that. (And I fucking hate quoting him because it means I have to read shit he said or wrote. I make myself suffer to achieve that accuracy, you son of a bitch.) That I see subtext where you see literal text is your issue; I can’t help you understand how a word’s meaning to a given audience can be changed by its usage in a given context.
I was right—you lack the moral courage to denounce your Dear Leader for the authoritarian asshole he really is. If Biden was even half as bad as Trump, I’d already be doing that. How far backwards are you willing to bend for him, man? How much bullshit are you really willing to overlook for the sake of voting a fascist into office?
Your problem is that you take literally everything literally. I can’t educate you on how subtext works in political speech because you’re seemingly incapable of understanding even the idea of subtext. That’s not my problem to solve, and I’ll be god-fucking-damned if you think I need to shoulder that impossible responsibility.
You literally said earlier in your comment that “I still think [Trump] was twice the better choice”. The far right agrees with you on that (albeit maybe not for the same reasons). Hell, every time you’re confronted with criticism of Donald Trump’s time in office, you deflect and downplay with a fervor and stubbornness that only the far right can outmatch.
You can’t admit that he tried to do away with Obamacare without having a plan to replace it; you always go “it was repeal-and-replace” while ignoring how he never had “replace” ready at any point in his presidency. You can’t admit that he implied household disinfectants were a possible treatment for COVID; you always go “he never actually said ‘drink bleach’ ” and ignore the context in which he made his comments. (Again: Subtext and context are concepts you seem unable to comprehend.) You can’t admit that he made any big fuck-ups—only small ones—and any big fuck-ups that I or others point out are either the fault of someone else or “not that big a deal”.
You sound like an alt-right dipshit—unknowingly or otherwise—because like many of those dipshits, you are literally incapable of meaningfully criticizing the four-year American nightmare that was the presidency of Donald Trump.
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The Trumpian dipshits have had more than half a year to provide the evidence of their claims of a “stolen” election to the general public, the press, and actual courts of law. That they haven’t produced a shred of credible evidence for said claims is a sign that Dominion isn’t in nearly as much trouble as you seem to think they are.
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What’s sad is that you’re probably closer to the truth than you think.
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I typically do that when the lawsuit is on shaky legal ground, which happens more often than not when right-wing cranks are involved. Dominion’s suits are on far more solid legal ground, so the only reason to “question[ ]the intelligence of going forward” in its cases is to instill doubts about how solid the cases are and make people consider that maybe the cranks have a point when they don’t. I promise you this: Dominion’s higher-ups and legal team(s) have considered every issue you’ve raised and more you haven’t even thought of. They wouldn’t have gone forward with the suits if they thought they were a bad idea. Stop trying to convince us otherwise; it’s not going to work.
Everything you’ve done to defend him and his administration says otherwise, but feel free to believe your alternative facts if it makes you feel better, you discount-store Sean Spicer.
No, I don’t. But I recognize right-wing crankery when I see it, and you’ve been parroting their shit since I can first remember seeing/replying to your posts. Whether you realize that—or care about that—is your problem, not mine.
Unless it’s been clinically diagnosed: No, you don’t. Stop making light of an actual mental illness, you ableist dick.
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Hey, Koby: If Taliban members post content that isn’t calling for violence or terroristic acts, but their posts and accounts get deleted anyway, does that make their opinions the strongest? 🤨
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Whether you know it or not, you parrot the talking points of right-wing cranks—including the ones being sued by Dominion. On top of that, you’ve bent so far backwards to defend Trump and his administration in the past that even Cirque du Soleil is impressed. We’re only categorizing your statements based on how they read to people who are well-versed in reading right-wing crankery (including the right-wing dogwhistles you don’t think exist). Don’t like it? Stop trying to sound like you’re looking for an on-air role at OAN.
Yes, it must be OCD, because anyone who does categorization of people into groups based on what they say and do must have a mental disease or defect~.
(By the by? Saying ableist bullshit is yet another way you come off as a right-wing dipshit.)
You seem to think Dominion higher-ups hadn’t considered the same issues as you did, Mr. Dunning-Kruger. I can assure you that they have—and so have the company lawyers. They wouldn’t have filed the lawsuits, or fought to keep them alive, if they were as afraid of discovery as you seem to think they should be.
You’ve been touting your support for Trump for a while now. As far as I can recall, you’ve never explicitly and unequivocally denounced the “Stop the Steal” movement and the lies that sprang forth from it. Feel free to do that now…if you’ve finally developed the testicular fortitude necessary to deny your Dear Leader his alternative facts, that is.
For someone who wants to act like they know a lot of shit about politics and political media, you’re not doing a good job at convincing us of that.
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An actual court of law says otherwise. Unless you’re on the bench in a higher court, your grossly misinformed SovCit interpretation of the law means nothing.
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They are. Maybe not on every machine, but on enough machines that it’s not some one-county-in-the-entire-country rarity or some shit.
And you keep pointing it out and questioning whether it was a wise decision to sue a bunch of grifting liars who lie and grift and have fucked around too long without finding out. You’re all but saying that Dominion should drop the suits even though it’s clearly not afraid of discovery—which says more about you (and which side you seem to support in this courtroom pitfight) than it does about Dominion.
I’m Internet slapfighting with a pissant like you. Do you think I am?
And yet you’re acting like you’re smarter than the team of Dominion lawyers by questioning the decision to continue the lawsuits Dominion itself filed. Do you really fucking think they’d file the lawsuits if they were afraid of discovery?
You don’t doubt they’ll win, but you doubt whether they should even have filed the lawsuits. You seem to believe their legal team knows what they’re doing, but you also seem to believe they’re making a mistake by opening Dominion up to discovery. Yeah, you said Dominion will likely win the case—and everything you’ve said about Dominion after that has been the equivalent of one long “but”. The only reason to express this much doubt in re: the decisions from Dominion is to dogwhistle support for the people/companies being sued.
For fuck’s sake, man, you have me defending a corporation like Dominion from an ignorant asshole like you. You’re not as slick as you think you are, you wannabe Trump.
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Again: This assumes the people/companies being sued have people on their side who can find those bugs. Given the lack of evidence presented by Mike Lindell’s “we’re putting Trump back in office” symposium—and how one of his hand-picked experts said the “evidence” displayed there was bullshit—I wouldn’t count on that.
But you don’t trust the system. Why bother voting if you don’t trust the system?
The fact that you have all but said you want Dominion to drop the lawsuits says otherwise.
And that’s why you’re in an internet slapfight with me instead of running a billion-dollar corporation. You’re not as smart as you think you are, Mr. Dunning-Kruger.
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“Molehill” might be the wrong mound of organic matter to reference in this instance.
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To the people who think Dominion is afraid of the discovery phase of these lawsuits: Do you think the company would keep these lawsuits alive if it were?
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Even if this were to happen—and given the competency of the cranks being sued, that seems a longshot at best—so what? Dominion machines should be tested and bugs should be made known to Dominion so said bugs can be patched.
Then stop voting.
FYI: Giuliani, Newsmax, etc. aren’t being sued for saying “Dominion machines aren’t totally secure”. They’re being sued for saying “Dominion used insecure machines as part of an international plot to steal the 2020 election”.
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How do you expect to do that without harming the rest of the Internet?
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As was pointed out in a different comment: Dominion’s security practices aren’t the direct subject of these lawsuits—the lies about those practices propagated by the cranks and grifters being sued are. Dominion can admit its machines have security flaws without hurting its case—because if the cranks want to hurt Dominion here, they have to prove their lies aren’t lies.
Again: Do you really think Dominion would be fighting to have its day in court against the cranks if the company was afraid of discovery?
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Dominion is still going through with its cases. I doubt they’d do that if they thought they were going to expose all the secrets that the cranks think they know (but actually don’t because the secrets are all bullshit lies fed to them by even bigger liars). Dominion actively fought for (and won!) the right to have its claims against individual defendants (e.g., Giuliant) heard in court. I seriously doubt it would’ve fought for that right if the higher-ups in the company were worried about discovery.
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Then why hasn’t Dominion dismissed its own lawsuits? Seems like they’re more than happy to proceed on that front if they’re fighting—successfully, might I add!—to keep those lawsuits alive.
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I would assume they aren’t. That said: What the fuck have the cranks offered in terms of highlighting unknown vulnerabilities that are actually based in fact?
What makes you think it can’t? The only “scandal” here belongs to the cranks who are lying about Dominion. The company itself, from all I’ve seen, has the complete upper hand in this nonsense.
There is no real “cost” if the cranks are wrong—and they are. Whatever Dominion pays in legal fees will be more than made up by any cash reward (or cash settlement), and only the cranks will keep believing Chinese bamboo makers hacked the election with special thermometers designed to slip pre-filled paper ballots into the hands of the reptile people who secretly rig all U.S. elections. Or, y’know, whatever they happen to believe this week.
Listen, I sincerely despise the idea of defending corporations. They’d sooner kill me and turn my body into kindling than return the favor. But on every level except the moral one, Dominion is in the right. (Morally, I’d call this a wash, but that’s my anti-corporatism talking.) That you seem to think otherwise makes me think you’re not nearly as against the cranks as you profess to be.
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And you're free to do that—so long as you’re not trying to shut me up in the process.
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