You were talking constitutions, and rights and The comments For/of the people.
Went to the courts and arrest, and Justice and the laws. Then RIGHT AT THE COPS, and the Cops being WRONG?
Why not lead in with cops arresting for Small things, WHICH is what they do, until they get SWAT out there.
Talk about HOW board as hell cops are, while watching POLICE TV(love cable and all the police shows) and that they dont get to use their GUNS as much as those on TV.
"checking propaganda saying that it will result in serious medical problems because this is Merica damn it and you will not outlaw mah cheese burgers! "
And now you must understand that there are Many of us and you cant Show, they we have the SAME opinions.
300 million people ranging in age 0-100+.
Which makes us free to have opinions, Not to SAY them.
To say them, means we are liable for abuse and comments from others.
To discus and Think about others comments.
Just cause I say the sky is green, dont mean YOU are right as well as 90% of the rest of the world, thinking its Blue. It means I might need to get my eyes and brain checked to see if I have problems.
Each of our pasts, have taught us, but its TIME and conversation, that teaches more. Picking and choosing limits it. Arguments and debate can EXPAND IT. But understanding that EVERYONE see's things abit differently.
Movie:arrival.
If you can get a hint at what this is about and what is being SAID about words and meaning, and how to explain each to others, opinions/sides/understanding.
And HOW do we get there? not really to hard, its going back to basics. DONT get complicated. Just communicate and discuss, and ASK for Meaning to the words used.
Biggest concern many of us should have is HOW 1or more groups see's things completely differently.
Its the idea that, How many are responsible For this country.
And How many that are elected to represent us, ARE representing us.
And 1 person trying to control all that.
Re: Yet again BY YOUR OWN WORDS, Maz, all "users" are subject...
WE DONT.
Even 230 says that.
YOU are responsible for your words. NOT TD.
I may be abit on the strange, weird, incoherent side most times, but Even I understand that.
Consider this. Facebook REQUIRES real names. And many times a PICTURE.
Ever wonder why?
Think about the harassment, in schools, that was happening. Think of the Groups that jump on, ADVERT everything they can, then LEAVE.(spam)
HOw about creating a FAKE account, which they DO FIGHT, just to do something STUPID, like Follow you Ex.girl friend/wife/mate/what ever.
How many sites Go that far to Help and protect the Online people?
How many Corps would LOVE to have an account and publish THEIR BS, and POLITICS(?) dont get me started. Iv watched TV for over 60 years, and watched both sides LIE about each other.
Have you ever seen a Socialist advert to run for president? I have. 2 times.
The trick about those that are supposed to protect the citizens?
Is that there will ALWAYS be a person that dont like them.
But do you know Trump ran as independent? THEN as a democrat? FIRST?
And there is a Very good probability HE DIDNT WANT THE JOB. He was doing it to hide his money, to show $xxx,xxx,xxx was paid out when only 1/2 was.(they recently found it)
And the only reason the repubs were TRYING to follow him, was becasue of the repub leader. AND NOW they dont even want him.
Re: ONLY thing stopping Big Tech is fear of moving too quickly,
YOU ADMITTED IT.
This law is to protect those that Made/created the site.
The PROBLEM is how many will Sue a site for ANYTHING, that is posted?
There are 2 sides on this,
1, that doesnt want ANYTHING ERASED..(Stupid for all the Crap that will appear in 1 day)
2, Wants the Censoring, but ONLY their Censorship.
If a Regular Citizens posts a MEAN/BAD post on a site, WHO do you think they/Corps/rich/poor/Companies/trump WANT to sue?? For the WORDS of another person.
THEY want the richest person they can SUE. And if they can match the Site creator TO A BIG company, they will go THERE.
IF'
They could give us a GOOD basic reason, Based on FACTS and the reading of 230. Not fabrication. Would we at least think about it?
All I see is a way to Kill off the Forums and chats of smaller companies and groups. By then we are directly at Google and amazon, and they dont really want to worry about it.
WELL,
Being in 3-4 wars, that Arnt even being reported on? OK, you are correct, but what happens to those Men when they come home, over 1 million people. NO JOBS. And even back to Bush jr.(repub) they were trying to get the PENTAGON to supply records of all expenditures, did trump ask? NOPE.
Censorship? IS NOT part of the Big corps. 99% of forums are all created by smaller groups. NOT the BIG corps, like Amazon or Google. Then we get to BASIC censorship. That if you EXPLAIN things, DONT belittle others, and STAY ON THE SUBJECT. I dont think you are being censored. running around blaming Jews for everything, isnt paying attention to the person NEXT to you. The one that OWN 2/3 of the business in your town. Ever been to a city/county Meetings? THATS where you can make changes.
Military dying. Um ya. BECAUSE we stick our FINGERS IN where they are NOT NEEDED. Love those oil corps, dont you? That was started WHEN?? Bush jr.?
trump and Covid. OK I will. HE SHOULD HAVE LET THE DOCTORS TELL US WHAT TO DO. NOT TRY TO TELL US WHAT HE DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT 5 YEARS OF VIROLOGY AND EDUCATION.
If your local Doctor told you to take a medicine or die, and Mr. trump told you to forget it... WHO THE F' would you listen to?
"If Prodigy had not attempted to stifle swearing, bullying and “grossly repugnant” content, the court stated, it would not have been liable for damages. "
So that every public site MUST post on the front page and when signing in..
That all text and spam is saved, and you come here at your OWN risk.
WOW, sounds like a good porn site.
Generally its the thought that if a FEW things dont come out, people look HARDER.
The biggest thing you have is WHO does know whats going on.
And if they are willing to bring things up, and have a chance of disappearing.
"deployed more offensive weapons in hopes of deterring cyber attacks."
LMAO.
IMO, this could of been caught before anything happened. As in Where in hell did that .DLL come from?
Setting up an outgoing monitor of the system. Where things get looked at, and a list of where things are going.
Machines that have access to the system are REGISTERED And DATA OUT also, only to REGISTERED systems.
Thinking a Club(not the one for cars) can stop a internet attack? Priceless.
"Federal taxation effectively destroys some of that printed money reducing supply and staving off inflation (or at least keeping it under control)."
NOT if there is NO competition.
And I can counter that pretty easy. Go look at the cost of food on the stock exchange. Avg price for Just about everything, Hasnt GONE UP in many years, except potato's a few years back to an avg price of $0.03 per pound.
I know what happens as I live out here in farming community. and the processing and Everything else, CANT mean charging 50 times the price for the LOWEST Price at the store for a 1 lb bag of frozen food.
Also the USA has the Worst food stocks in the world. IMO. What they do to our MEATS should never happen.
Then we Ship off about 60% of our food to other nations. But you should ask WHO PAYS FOR IT.
I went thru the LAte 80's Employment cuts. Our store went from 500+ total to under 300 in 2 years. My JOB, went from being 1 persons work to doing 3 persons work.(aggravated my handicaps ALLOT).
Then in 2000 it was the PUSH on the stock market that gave TONS more money to the corps, and watched that money NOT goto the stockholders, or buy backs.
And just this year a person QUIT, after being berated for getting a 10% raise, that would be worth over 2 million per month.(love ATT).
When over 1/2 this nation CANT even afford a Family home, one big enough to have friends over and NOT sleep in your bed.
unless you can get Every World wide site to RECORD links to those Downloading. And then PROVE, that they dont have an original copy and are just supplying a Backup.
But consider 230. WHO is responsible? the Site owner, the person who Uploaded the Data, or the Downloader? And IN WHAT country does OUR law over rule THEIRS?
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Started out great,
Then you went for the throat.
You were talking constitutions, and rights and The comments For/of the people.
Went to the courts and arrest, and Justice and the laws. Then RIGHT AT THE COPS, and the Cops being WRONG?
Why not lead in with cops arresting for Small things, WHICH is what they do, until they get SWAT out there.
Talk about HOW board as hell cops are, while watching POLICE TV(love cable and all the police shows) and that they dont get to use their GUNS as much as those on TV.
THEN go for the throat.
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Re: Re: Re: Afterthought
Dear AC,
They are trying it already. REALLY.
On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
For all of this..
"checking propaganda saying that it will result in serious medical problems because this is Merica damn it and you will not outlaw mah cheese burgers! "
And now you must understand that there are Many of us and you cant Show, they we have the SAME opinions.
300 million people ranging in age 0-100+.
Which makes us free to have opinions, Not to SAY them.
To say them, means we are liable for abuse and comments from others.
To discus and Think about others comments.
Just cause I say the sky is green, dont mean YOU are right as well as 90% of the rest of the world, thinking its Blue. It means I might need to get my eyes and brain checked to see if I have problems.
Each of our pasts, have taught us, but its TIME and conversation, that teaches more. Picking and choosing limits it. Arguments and debate can EXPAND IT. But understanding that EVERYONE see's things abit differently.
Movie:arrival.
If you can get a hint at what this is about and what is being SAID about words and meaning, and how to explain each to others, opinions/sides/understanding.
And HOW do we get there? not really to hard, its going back to basics. DONT get complicated. Just communicate and discuss, and ASK for Meaning to the words used.
Biggest concern many of us should have is HOW 1or more groups see's things completely differently.
Its the idea that, How many are responsible For this country.
And How many that are elected to represent us, ARE representing us.
And 1 person trying to control all that.
On the post: US Attorney Blames Violent Crime Spike In Austin, Texas On Police Budget Cuts That Haven't Even Been Implemented Yet
Ask, what makes a crook or thief.
Fill in the blank.
If you are hungry what can you do?
If you need a place to stay, what can you do?
Who does a thief steal from?
What does an Opportunist get?
To be Poor is as a crack addict, In that you will do what you can to keep living. The restriction comes to, HOW far you will go.
Now comes the hard part. What can be done for Either? the Poor or the crack addict.
Lets also ask, Who understands this MORE? the poor, the rich, the middle class, the person on the streets?
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Re: Yet again BY YOUR OWN WORDS, Maz, all "users" are subject...
WE DONT.
Even 230 says that.
YOU are responsible for your words. NOT TD.
I may be abit on the strange, weird, incoherent side most times, but Even I understand that.
Consider this. Facebook REQUIRES real names. And many times a PICTURE.
Ever wonder why?
Think about the harassment, in schools, that was happening. Think of the Groups that jump on, ADVERT everything they can, then LEAVE.(spam)
HOw about creating a FAKE account, which they DO FIGHT, just to do something STUPID, like Follow you Ex.girl friend/wife/mate/what ever.
How many sites Go that far to Help and protect the Online people?
How many Corps would LOVE to have an account and publish THEIR BS, and POLITICS(?) dont get me started. Iv watched TV for over 60 years, and watched both sides LIE about each other.
Have you ever seen a Socialist advert to run for president? I have. 2 times.
On the post: Apparently Trump Refuses To Allow The Government To Do Anything At All Until The Open Internet Is Destroyed
Re: Love this President
The trick about those that are supposed to protect the citizens?
Is that there will ALWAYS be a person that dont like them.
But do you know Trump ran as independent? THEN as a democrat? FIRST?
And there is a Very good probability HE DIDNT WANT THE JOB. He was doing it to hide his money, to show $xxx,xxx,xxx was paid out when only 1/2 was.(they recently found it)
And the only reason the repubs were TRYING to follow him, was becasue of the repub leader. AND NOW they dont even want him.
On the post: Apparently Trump Refuses To Allow The Government To Do Anything At All Until The Open Internet Is Destroyed
Re: ONLY thing stopping Big Tech is fear of moving too quickly,
YOU ADMITTED IT.
This law is to protect those that Made/created the site.
The PROBLEM is how many will Sue a site for ANYTHING, that is posted?
There are 2 sides on this,
1, that doesnt want ANYTHING ERASED..(Stupid for all the Crap that will appear in 1 day)
2, Wants the Censoring, but ONLY their Censorship.
If a Regular Citizens posts a MEAN/BAD post on a site, WHO do you think they/Corps/rich/poor/Companies/trump WANT to sue?? For the WORDS of another person.
THEY want the richest person they can SUE. And if they can match the Site creator TO A BIG company, they will go THERE.
It would be easier to Just shut down.
On the post: Apparently Trump Refuses To Allow The Government To Do Anything At All Until The Open Internet Is Destroyed
Just for the fun of it.
IF'
They could give us a GOOD basic reason, Based on FACTS and the reading of 230. Not fabrication. Would we at least think about it?
All I see is a way to Kill off the Forums and chats of smaller companies and groups. By then we are directly at Google and amazon, and they dont really want to worry about it.
On the post: Apparently Trump Refuses To Allow The Government To Do Anything At All Until The Open Internet Is Destroyed
Re: WAAAH!!!
WELL,
Being in 3-4 wars, that Arnt even being reported on? OK, you are correct, but what happens to those Men when they come home, over 1 million people. NO JOBS. And even back to Bush jr.(repub) they were trying to get the PENTAGON to supply records of all expenditures, did trump ask? NOPE.
Censorship? IS NOT part of the Big corps. 99% of forums are all created by smaller groups. NOT the BIG corps, like Amazon or Google. Then we get to BASIC censorship. That if you EXPLAIN things, DONT belittle others, and STAY ON THE SUBJECT. I dont think you are being censored. running around blaming Jews for everything, isnt paying attention to the person NEXT to you. The one that OWN 2/3 of the business in your town. Ever been to a city/county Meetings? THATS where you can make changes.
Military dying. Um ya. BECAUSE we stick our FINGERS IN where they are NOT NEEDED. Love those oil corps, dont you? That was started WHEN?? Bush jr.?
trump and Covid. OK I will. HE SHOULD HAVE LET THE DOCTORS TELL US WHAT TO DO. NOT TRY TO TELL US WHAT HE DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT 5 YEARS OF VIROLOGY AND EDUCATION.
If your local Doctor told you to take a medicine or die, and Mr. trump told you to forget it... WHO THE F' would you listen to?
On the post: Once Again, Section 230's Authors Feel The Need To Tell Everyone That Section 230 Is Not The Evil You Think It Is
Alternative?
"If Prodigy had not attempted to stifle swearing, bullying and “grossly repugnant” content, the court stated, it would not have been liable for damages. "
So that every public site MUST post on the front page and when signing in..
That all text and spam is saved, and you come here at your OWN risk.
WOW, sounds like a good porn site.
On the post: UK Spy Agency Fails In Attempt To Bury Records Of Its Criminal Activity
Honor in the system
Generally its the thought that if a FEW things dont come out, people look HARDER.
The biggest thing you have is WHO does know whats going on.
And if they are willing to bring things up, and have a chance of disappearing.
On the post: Congress (Once Again) Sells Out To Hollywood: Sneaks CASE Act And Felony Streaming Bill Into Government Funding Omnibus
Re: Once Again
I love persons with 1 sided opinions, and Miss the Other opportunities to see the truth.
500 idiots in the congress and the reps control 1 of them. And you think it was the democrats?
WOW, interesting idea.
Dont think about the Group incharge, paying off a few demo to get it thru the vote?
On the post: US Attorney Blames Violent Crime Spike In Austin, Texas On Police Budget Cuts That Haven't Even Been Implemented Yet
lets see..
Covid
Lost Jobs
Laid off
Stay at home sick
A gov check for $600
evictions
And you think the crime rate is going to stay the same?
I wonder where the Cause and Affect are?
On the post: The SolarWinds Hack Is Just The Same Sort Of Espionage The US Government Engages In Every Day
May the Farce be with you
"deployed more offensive weapons in hopes of deterring cyber attacks."
LMAO.
IMO, this could of been caught before anything happened. As in Where in hell did that .DLL come from?
Setting up an outgoing monitor of the system. Where things get looked at, and a list of where things are going.
Machines that have access to the system are REGISTERED And DATA OUT also, only to REGISTERED systems.
Thinking a Club(not the one for cars) can stop a internet attack? Priceless.
On the post: You'll Need Fifty Stimulus Checks To Pay The Damages You Might Get Hit With Under The CASE Act
CAN we?
decide how much to pay these idiots?
Its our money, we should know what we WANT to do with it.
On the post: Congress (Once Again) Sells Out To Hollywood: Sneaks CASE Act And Felony Streaming Bill Into Government Funding Omnibus
Anyone do a quick scan??
Look at titles,
There is a trade agreement in there,
Look up Nepal and China.
This thing is Full of allot of BS.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/shadow-lobbying-complex/
https://www.thenation.com/wp-cont ent/uploads/2015/03/lobby_graphic_for_web_0.png
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Re: Re: XMAS Pork Barrel
"Federal taxation effectively destroys some of that printed money reducing supply and staving off inflation (or at least keeping it under control)."
NOT if there is NO competition.
And I can counter that pretty easy. Go look at the cost of food on the stock exchange. Avg price for Just about everything, Hasnt GONE UP in many years, except potato's a few years back to an avg price of $0.03 per pound.
I know what happens as I live out here in farming community. and the processing and Everything else, CANT mean charging 50 times the price for the LOWEST Price at the store for a 1 lb bag of frozen food.
Also the USA has the Worst food stocks in the world. IMO. What they do to our MEATS should never happen.
Then we Ship off about 60% of our food to other nations. But you should ask WHO PAYS FOR IT.
I went thru the LAte 80's Employment cuts. Our store went from 500+ total to under 300 in 2 years. My JOB, went from being 1 persons work to doing 3 persons work.(aggravated my handicaps ALLOT).
Then in 2000 it was the PUSH on the stock market that gave TONS more money to the corps, and watched that money NOT goto the stockholders, or buy backs.
And just this year a person QUIT, after being berated for getting a 10% raise, that would be worth over 2 million per month.(love ATT).
When over 1/2 this nation CANT even afford a Family home, one big enough to have friends over and NOT sleep in your bed.
On the post: Congress (Once Again) Sells Out To Hollywood: Sneaks CASE Act And Felony Streaming Bill Into Government Funding Omnibus
Re: Will this do anything?
unless you can get Every World wide site to RECORD links to those Downloading. And then PROVE, that they dont have an original copy and are just supplying a Backup.
But consider 230. WHO is responsible? the Site owner, the person who Uploaded the Data, or the Downloader? And IN WHAT country does OUR law over rule THEIRS?
On the post: Congress (Once Again) Sells Out To Hollywood: Sneaks CASE Act And Felony Streaming Bill Into Government Funding Omnibus
Re:
true, but you need ENOUGH people to Stand out/up. to get attention. That or you start breaking windows. Which isnt a good thing either.
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