Okay, I should have clarified that: I don't mean they don't deserve to be punished.
But the news flood about this is extremely overdone. This is a page B-29 local interest article only, at best. Trying to make anything more of it only helps enemies of Greenpeace.
I bet Charles Manson would poll well, too, given the right poll. Washington Post should run a good poll for him, then hire him as one of their Lifestyle reporters.
I am particularly disheartened that the "political opponents" are trying to make political points on this. Talk about the peak of hypocrisy: There is no group of people on this planet who care for anything (such as world landmarks) less than their pocketbook. If there were something valuable under those Nazca Lines, these are the same people who would plow them under faster than you can say "greed".
So, okay, Greenpeace, definitely not the best thought out action. The landmark took some minor damage, a "ding", but it's not ruined completely.
No, you have to understand the terminology. If the government wants the knowledge out there, it's an "unofficial press release"; if the government wanted it to be secret, it's "high treason".
The part I'm most not buying about this article is that these guys took in $81 million
Their real expertise is demonstrated by their taking on this program with no prior qualification; their kiss-ass methods of convincing everyone how valuable they were ("Nothing" means "success"); their obvious salesmanship of their techniques, selling even what the CIA didn't want to buy; and their manipulation of government contracting schemes by obtaining a sole-source--also known as a "no-bid"--contract.
They are experts at suckling the government teat, and little else, it looks to me. That being the case, I'm betting they sucked out much more than $81 million; that's just the over-the-table figure.
People born in this country by accident share the same principles, because we added an item to the Bill of Rights (Fourteenth Amendment) to make it that way. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States..." We added that amendment because certain folks were saying that people born in this country "on purpose" did not have any rights because they weren't citizens; rights such as the right to vote, for example.
You're probably right that most people can't enumerate the rights...your lack of knowledge of the Fourteenth Amendment would be a case in point. But it isn't supposed to be the people following the rights, it is the government that has a duty to respect the rights.
The Bill of Rights, and the laws related to torture, apply to the people doing the torturing. The act of torture is a crime; it is not just a crime to torture citizens, it is a crime to torture anyone.
He must have a rich daddy, friend in the admiralty, or a sympathetic politico; or something. Most people, the mere creation of such a device would have been proof of intent.
$670,000 per year? The council must not be very serious about fixing this problem, because surely they could come up with that amount for replacement, for the next 4 years.
This is a lack of commitment that does not bode well for 2019. Where will they come up with $670,000/year then? Won't it be easier to just relax the rules on forfeiture again?
All in all, this seems like pure posturing. It should not surprise anyone if these improvements are quietly repealed sometime during the next 4 years.
Re your last question, yes there are a lot of them in the RFC collection. See, the people that created a lot of the RFC's did it without getting a patent because they believed in the right of everyone to share in the benefits of the ideas they produced.
You're also right about three being the only option. Those seemed the most reasonable. But there's also:
4. Absolutely! No! Patented! Technology! in a Standard!
If you have more and better suggestions, do feel free.
You know, I think he has the right of it. If we publish this, our enemies will all shout in unison, "See?! We knew you were kidding when you said torture was bad!!"
Realistically, this argument is getting sillier and sillier. All they're doing now is stretching it day by day, trying to wear out the people who want it published. They have an infinite list of excuses they will drag out one-by-one, forever.
I still will be surprised if it is ever published in a usable form.
They'll keep sitting on them, too. Wait until 2030, when the pressure will ramp up to extend copyright to 150 years; and then until 2110, when they'll be pushing for 300 years.
"It don't matter if I'm nevah doing nuthing but sittin' on this and lettin' it rot and fall down; it's my proppety!!!"
But the companies gave the enforcement road maps to SEC and FTC in the first place. The agencies are just echoing the companies' concerns that we will find out what regulatory capture really means.
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Enlist the NSA
"We think a terrorist wrote one of these messages. And, um, while you're looking for that message, could you summarize the rest of them for us?"
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Re: Re: Nazca lines
But the news flood about this is extremely overdone. This is a page B-29 local interest article only, at best. Trying to make anything more of it only helps enemies of Greenpeace.
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Polling, well...
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Nazca lines
I am particularly disheartened that the "political opponents" are trying to make political points on this. Talk about the peak of hypocrisy: There is no group of people on this planet who care for anything (such as world landmarks) less than their pocketbook. If there were something valuable under those Nazca Lines, these are the same people who would plow them under faster than you can say "greed".
So, okay, Greenpeace, definitely not the best thought out action. The landmark took some minor damage, a "ding", but it's not ruined completely.
Stop worrying about this ding and instead worry about some dispassionate multinational digging there next week for road gravel.
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This is a surprise?
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My Papa say...
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Waste of time
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Terminology
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Terminology
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Their real expertise is demonstrated by their taking on this program with no prior qualification; their kiss-ass methods of convincing everyone how valuable they were ("Nothing" means "success"); their obvious salesmanship of their techniques, selling even what the CIA didn't want to buy; and their manipulation of government contracting schemes by obtaining a sole-source--also known as a "no-bid"--contract.
They are experts at suckling the government teat, and little else, it looks to me. That being the case, I'm betting they sucked out much more than $81 million; that's just the over-the-table figure.
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What's the score now?
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Re: Re: Re: Uhm, no, It's not.
You're probably right that most people can't enumerate the rights...your lack of knowledge of the Fourteenth Amendment would be a case in point. But it isn't supposed to be the people following the rights, it is the government that has a duty to respect the rights.
The Bill of Rights, and the laws related to torture, apply to the people doing the torturing. The act of torture is a crime; it is not just a crime to torture citizens, it is a crime to torture anyone.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What the fuck?
I guarantee there were no liberals involved in the creation of this law. It was purely a Republican cluster fuck.
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Has a friendly ghost
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Replacement cash?
This is a lack of commitment that does not bode well for 2019. Where will they come up with $670,000/year then? Won't it be easier to just relax the rules on forfeiture again?
All in all, this seems like pure posturing. It should not surprise anyone if these improvements are quietly repealed sometime during the next 4 years.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Good Suggestions
You're also right about three being the only option. Those seemed the most reasonable. But there's also:
4. Absolutely! No! Patented! Technology! in a Standard!
If you have more and better suggestions, do feel free.
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Has the right of it
Realistically, this argument is getting sillier and sillier. All they're doing now is stretching it day by day, trying to wear out the people who want it published. They have an infinite list of excuses they will drag out one-by-one, forever.
I still will be surprised if it is ever published in a usable form.
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Re:
"It don't matter if I'm nevah doing nuthing but sittin' on this and lettin' it rot and fall down; it's my proppety!!!"
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Regulatory captives
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