Lets look at DSL,
All these old phone line and when there was ONLY DIALUP connections, it wasnt enough.
The Phone company wants about $2000 to install 1 pole to a home.
So to go out and reinstall A better quality line would be HUGE.
But whats happening? There are allot of lines that have not Ever been changed. 40 years of copper on those poles, and upgrading millions of miles of lines, esp out into the country area.
5 guys out running New lines, at $15-20 per hour EACH.
Then consider how many people have CUT the phone lines because they have a cellphone. They dont NEED the mainline phone. but NOW they want internet.
basic phone service is/was $35 per month, THEN if all you wanted was internet, it was/is About $60-100 per month. Which is a good difference. but that Includes the phone service. And 1/2 speed if you use the phone WITH the internet.
SAME line as before. So ATT is making over 2 times the price of Basic Phone service.
Iv stated before the Fun part of HOW The inter net HIT in the 1990's. When the Phone system was setup for Only 6% max usage. And the odds say that Every major metro was doing the same, the MINIMUM needed, at anytime no more then 6% was in use, unless there was a major event happening. PTLD had to do a major upgrade and it took 6-12 months to get 1/2 of it running.
It has been suggested to me that the 1st tier service of the backbone is NOW owned by these major cellphone/phone/cable Providers. There is no 3rd party to pay off, there is no 3rd party that IS installing anything MORE then needed. And we know the Gov. has Paid them allot of money to UPGRADE the main backbone.
The question is, HAVE THEY?
then comes something really stupid about our Past. HOW much of ANY of the system was/is updated over the years. PROBABLY NOT MUCH. And if they had updated, made it so it was abit MORE modular to repair and update AGAIN.
The original lines took YEARS to build and install. Blasting rocks and mountains, and tearing up City blocks, and then installing poles. At one point they wanted everything underground, and they started that, and found it Very hard to do.(at least REAL expensive).
Cable is interesting as 90% of it is hanging on the poles. And it was installed that way. But would you want a GLASS FIBER running around on poles? Even the Coax runs are being EATEN by the squirrels. Coax is run like the OLD 1 line for everyone, Party lines. PHONE lines are 1(pair) per house, and getting ISDN which is 8 pairs(16 wires) is VERY expensive to even think about.
But why Not get it done?
because Corps dont like spending money. SOMEONE has to loose money to get things going. And if they drop Stock Payments, to get it done, They will loose money THERE also.
They(corps) have created a system that CAN NOT/Shouldnt loose money. It can only go UP and never down. Or someone will loose money(owner/CEO/board members)
There is NO break even, there is NO balance, they can only go 1 way. They cant figure a way to get ANYTHING done and NOT loose money.
That ATT manager that got a 10% raise and got harassed, for making almost 40 million per year.(love those contracts). I feel sorry for him.(almost)
He couldnt see a way to lower Upper wages to get Area by area, UPGRADED.
That all of this is to condense the WHOLE of the internet?
They dont want to deal with 10,000+ small companies. they want the MAIN companies responsible for everything ON their systems.
Lets put it this way. They dont want the NEED to improve the IRS in tracking all these smaller companies to get taxes.
If the IRS could track Every business in every state, as well as match up all the internet sites and Ownership, and then send out Bills for taxes, based on the traffic and business estimated. It wouldnt be that hard to do it to the larger corps.
Can you see being able to get taxes from ANY site in the world, that does USA business over the internet?
Would take allot of power to monitor and track all those sources, and collect all taxes on all purchases.
Let alone Showing that all those taxes means the rest of us DONT NEED to pay taxes.
Here is the fun part.
They will seem to Adapt it, then add more to it, then after everyone has "FIXED" it condemn it and find it unconstitutional. AFTER the fact that they messed the whole thing up.
They have done it before, and will again.
The Big part is NOT letting them touch it in the first place, and that is the fight going on.
Go look what happened to Obama care a few years back, they made a change to it, that made Part of it unconstitutional, Which could make it ALL be erased.
Re: You fail to grasp essentials and yet argue on.
"BECAUSE MERE HOSTS USURPING THE POWER OF PERSONS PUBLISHING EVEN THOUGH IMMUNIZED IS NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF AMERICAN LAW."
And every newspaper with an editorial section would deem this abit on the WRONG side. And the news paper has the power NOT to print your comments.
The main part of the internet tends to be Faster, more discussion on any and every part of a comment.
Its like reading the First script of a book, and getting comments and critique, on your Book to straighten and get to the next rewrite of the book. then after about 4-5 tries, you finally get to the Whole story, and can publish it for hte world.
The problem tends to be, you Cant Force anyone to read it.
What will the price be?
If this is built up in a good way there are allot of services that 1 line can do, and creates.
But also the thought that EVERY line has its location, built into it.
Remember what the NSA/CIA wanted? Routers that had a Bug in them. Just a way to track What ever is sent by that 1 and every connection. And Maintaining Every connection to every Home.
Then comes another backdoor. Who will maintain the Whole system? and how much are they willing to be paid. Adding new installations as things change and adapt? upscaling the system?
And as the corps will complain, There STILL is no competition. And Who will have access to give services.
Lets see. Internet, National and international TV, and Phone. Should be the basics. And Whose feet are we stamping on? WHO will pay to access the Main system to supply these? Then charge us MORE. Even tho the State owns the main system.
I watched as delta took all the retirement funds and went bankrupt.
Iv watched as companies took an OLD idea, thats Buried DEEP, that an economy that increases by 3% per year is doing well. AND FORGOT that wages are included in that, NOT just salaries.
I was a teen, when 'trickle down theory' Appeared from REAGAN. ANd even in my TEENS, I knew he was an idiot.
I love when people Blame the president for stuff, esp. stuff started 1-2 presidents BEFORE he got to office, and That there are 500+ Other idiots that are doing MORE thent he president to mess things up, after about 1970's when they Voted themselves REAL wages.
But its a DLL, that the program needs and they SHOULD already understand how its supposed to work,
THIS IS SECURITY. The DLL had to come from 1 place, and if nothing else the company that made it, SHOULD have a copy of the program, at least to verify it. And comparing should NOT be a problem AS they Should have the previous version.
I know compile and decomp are a PAIN in the but and can take hours or days. But how high END ARE we paying for?
The Customer Can now CHARGE the company for a 3rd party mistake/screw up/Sabotage.
Please.
If A file can be compiled to a Machine language format, it CAN be de-compiled.
They know who they got it from, OR SHOULD.
They are a security and monitoring agency. ITS NOT HARD, as they should have the programmers to Figure out whats IN THE CODE.
Fine, let the automated machine test it. The problem is HOW to compare to the LAST .DLL that is in use, and Look at the changes.
"It recently came out that he, and new FCC commissioner Nathan Simington, abused their government jobs to try to get Fox News to attack Section 230,"
Anyone realize what FOX knew that these 2 idiots DIDNT?
That their OWN news site could be SUED, if 230 was removed.
NO law is 1 sided. And if it affects 1, it can affect ALL.
I want a link to that Supreme court comment..
I would LOVE to post it around.
AND THEN,
we can use it any time a person BANGS ON OUR DOORS, after we shoot them.
But, the laws, in this area, tend to demand that the body land inside the house. No matter the intent of the attacking person.
Who is responsible for Spam, on my Email as well as my Phone?
Getting spam from Panama(??) and the Phone stuff is abit stupid, what is a 844 code? Insurance, car insurance, Medical, Social security, and a few others.
WHO DO YOU CALL?
Ghost busters went out of business.
Re: Re: Alternate speculation: NSA broke into Dominion, got the
FS.
Can you guess the fault in that?
That Both parties evaluated the Hardware and software.
And unless they Paid off the Evaluator(another corp, probably)
They should have closed and sealed EACH machine. And at the end, checked that nothing has changed.
All these corps/agencies and such.
Are leaning on a 3rd party to do WHAT?
But then they are GIVEN a .DLL, that they DIDNT OPEN AND ANALISE before Installing on Customer computers?
So we have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd party situation, where NO ONE Evaluated the original data in a REQUIRED PROGRAM?
This Really sounds like a setup.
"Orion Platform products monitor the health and performance of your network through ICMP, SNMP, WMI, API, and Syslog communication and data collection."
Ok, this is interesting. This program is to Monitor hardware and Watch for failure? Also it monitors other small programs that are traps and data transfer?
God help us. Why are we paying for this IF' this company allows a 3rd party program, that HASNT been checked and evaluated.
Also, NOW we know the problem with AUTOMATED SECURITY.
There Should only be 1 way this could work. IF it wasnt Augmenting programs/data(ya, it was a security program), it could stay hidden along time just by reading/copying Data and shipping it out, Probably in small batches.
Otherwise if DATA changes/erases/added SHOULD created a Log file of what happened. and if this DID happen, and it took THIS LONG? we need better Network People. GET away from the corps.
Be able to sort these 2 closely related groups, its going to be a strange day.
"One study by Xu et al. (2008), using samples from Hetian (Hotan) only, found Uyghurs have about 60% European or South-West Asian ancestry and about 40% East Asian or Siberian ancestry. From the same area, it is found that the proportion of East Asian/Siberian ancestry in Uyghurs ranges individually from 15.7% to 59.7%, and the proportion of European/West Asian ancestry in Uyghurs ranges individually from 40.3% to 84.3%"
1 of a couple studies. and the whole of it is the Edges of the country. Where the old trade routes used to be. You might as well, have a program in the USA to Sort out every person from ALL the EU from generations ago. After having 4-5 countries blood mixed into things, can you Sort out 3-5 Races from 1 person.
Seems as bad as Hitler and others trying to Sort out the population. 1/2 of Africa Nations have tried it. Even the USA has tried it a few times. Esp. after the Corps got done having them WORK for CHEAP.
In all of this there is little reasoning, except to Lower the population of the nation.
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DSL. is a pain.
Lets look at DSL,
All these old phone line and when there was ONLY DIALUP connections, it wasnt enough.
The Phone company wants about $2000 to install 1 pole to a home.
So to go out and reinstall A better quality line would be HUGE.
But whats happening? There are allot of lines that have not Ever been changed. 40 years of copper on those poles, and upgrading millions of miles of lines, esp out into the country area.
5 guys out running New lines, at $15-20 per hour EACH.
Then consider how many people have CUT the phone lines because they have a cellphone. They dont NEED the mainline phone. but NOW they want internet.
basic phone service is/was $35 per month, THEN if all you wanted was internet, it was/is About $60-100 per month. Which is a good difference. but that Includes the phone service. And 1/2 speed if you use the phone WITH the internet.
SAME line as before. So ATT is making over 2 times the price of Basic Phone service.
Iv stated before the Fun part of HOW The inter net HIT in the 1990's. When the Phone system was setup for Only 6% max usage. And the odds say that Every major metro was doing the same, the MINIMUM needed, at anytime no more then 6% was in use, unless there was a major event happening. PTLD had to do a major upgrade and it took 6-12 months to get 1/2 of it running.
It has been suggested to me that the 1st tier service of the backbone is NOW owned by these major cellphone/phone/cable Providers. There is no 3rd party to pay off, there is no 3rd party that IS installing anything MORE then needed. And we know the Gov. has Paid them allot of money to UPGRADE the main backbone.
The question is, HAVE THEY?
then comes something really stupid about our Past. HOW much of ANY of the system was/is updated over the years. PROBABLY NOT MUCH. And if they had updated, made it so it was abit MORE modular to repair and update AGAIN.
The original lines took YEARS to build and install. Blasting rocks and mountains, and tearing up City blocks, and then installing poles. At one point they wanted everything underground, and they started that, and found it Very hard to do.(at least REAL expensive).
Cable is interesting as 90% of it is hanging on the poles. And it was installed that way. But would you want a GLASS FIBER running around on poles? Even the Coax runs are being EATEN by the squirrels. Coax is run like the OLD 1 line for everyone, Party lines. PHONE lines are 1(pair) per house, and getting ISDN which is 8 pairs(16 wires) is VERY expensive to even think about.
But why Not get it done?
because Corps dont like spending money. SOMEONE has to loose money to get things going. And if they drop Stock Payments, to get it done, They will loose money THERE also.
They(corps) have created a system that CAN NOT/Shouldnt loose money. It can only go UP and never down. Or someone will loose money(owner/CEO/board members)
There is NO break even, there is NO balance, they can only go 1 way. They cant figure a way to get ANYTHING done and NOT loose money.
That ATT manager that got a 10% raise and got harassed, for making almost 40 million per year.(love those contracts). I feel sorry for him.(almost)
He couldnt see a way to lower Upper wages to get Area by area, UPGRADED.
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Have we considered..
That all of this is to condense the WHOLE of the internet?
They dont want to deal with 10,000+ small companies. they want the MAIN companies responsible for everything ON their systems.
Lets put it this way. They dont want the NEED to improve the IRS in tracking all these smaller companies to get taxes.
If the IRS could track Every business in every state, as well as match up all the internet sites and Ownership, and then send out Bills for taxes, based on the traffic and business estimated. It wouldnt be that hard to do it to the larger corps.
Can you see being able to get taxes from ANY site in the world, that does USA business over the internet?
Would take allot of power to monitor and track all those sources, and collect all taxes on all purchases.
Let alone Showing that all those taxes means the rest of us DONT NEED to pay taxes.
On the post: Lindsey Graham's Latest Attack On Section 230: Reform It By 2023, Or We Take It Away
Re: Deadline
Here is the fun part.
They will seem to Adapt it, then add more to it, then after everyone has "FIXED" it condemn it and find it unconstitutional. AFTER the fact that they messed the whole thing up.
They have done it before, and will again.
The Big part is NOT letting them touch it in the first place, and that is the fight going on.
Go look what happened to Obama care a few years back, they made a change to it, that made Part of it unconstitutional, Which could make it ALL be erased.
On the post: Lindsey Graham's Latest Attack On Section 230: Reform It By 2023, Or We Take It Away
Re: You fail to grasp essentials and yet argue on.
"BECAUSE MERE HOSTS USURPING THE POWER OF PERSONS PUBLISHING EVEN THOUGH IMMUNIZED IS NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF AMERICAN LAW."
And every newspaper with an editorial section would deem this abit on the WRONG side. And the news paper has the power NOT to print your comments.
The main part of the internet tends to be Faster, more discussion on any and every part of a comment.
Its like reading the First script of a book, and getting comments and critique, on your Book to straighten and get to the next rewrite of the book. then after about 4-5 tries, you finally get to the Whole story, and can publish it for hte world.
The problem tends to be, you Cant Force anyone to read it.
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Re: Re: One problem with the "Digital Divide" is those
Dear Kate,
Stick to the subject please.
On the post: A National Solution To The Digital Divide Starts With States
In all of this.
What will the price be?
If this is built up in a good way there are allot of services that 1 line can do, and creates.
But also the thought that EVERY line has its location, built into it.
Remember what the NSA/CIA wanted? Routers that had a Bug in them. Just a way to track What ever is sent by that 1 and every connection. And Maintaining Every connection to every Home.
Then comes another backdoor. Who will maintain the Whole system? and how much are they willing to be paid. Adding new installations as things change and adapt? upscaling the system?
And as the corps will complain, There STILL is no competition. And Who will have access to give services.
Lets see. Internet, National and international TV, and Phone. Should be the basics. And Whose feet are we stamping on? WHO will pay to access the Main system to supply these? Then charge us MORE. Even tho the State owns the main system.
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Re: Re: Re: Scary!
I watched the one, where to cop shot him 12 times and CURBED HIM.
That vid is GONE now.
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Re: Re: OMG! PLEASE DO, But...
I watched as delta took all the retirement funds and went bankrupt.
Iv watched as companies took an OLD idea, thats Buried DEEP, that an economy that increases by 3% per year is doing well. AND FORGOT that wages are included in that, NOT just salaries.
I was a teen, when 'trickle down theory' Appeared from REAGAN. ANd even in my TEENS, I knew he was an idiot.
I love when people Blame the president for stuff, esp. stuff started 1-2 presidents BEFORE he got to office, and That there are 500+ Other idiots that are doing MORE thent he president to mess things up, after about 1970's when they Voted themselves REAL wages.
On the post: DHS Cyber Warriors Issue Warning About Massive Hacking Campaign, Disclose They've Been Hacked A Day Later
Re: Re: Re: Soo.
But its a DLL, that the program needs and they SHOULD already understand how its supposed to work,
THIS IS SECURITY. The DLL had to come from 1 place, and if nothing else the company that made it, SHOULD have a copy of the program, at least to verify it. And comparing should NOT be a problem AS they Should have the previous version.
I know compile and decomp are a PAIN in the but and can take hours or days. But how high END ARE we paying for?
The Customer Can now CHARGE the company for a 3rd party mistake/screw up/Sabotage.
On the post: DHS Cyber Warriors Issue Warning About Massive Hacking Campaign, Disclose They've Been Hacked A Day Later
Re: Soo.
Please.
If A file can be compiled to a Machine language format, it CAN be de-compiled.
They know who they got it from, OR SHOULD.
They are a security and monitoring agency. ITS NOT HARD, as they should have the programmers to Figure out whats IN THE CODE.
Fine, let the automated machine test it. The problem is HOW to compare to the LAST .DLL that is in use, and Look at the changes.
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OMG! PLEASE DO, But...
"It recently came out that he, and new FCC commissioner Nathan Simington, abused their government jobs to try to get Fox News to attack Section 230,"
Anyone realize what FOX knew that these 2 idiots DIDNT?
That their OWN news site could be SUED, if 230 was removed.
NO law is 1 sided. And if it affects 1, it can affect ALL.
DO IT.
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Re: Re: Re: Scary!
I want a link to that Supreme court comment..
I would LOVE to post it around.
AND THEN,
we can use it any time a person BANGS ON OUR DOORS, after we shoot them.
But, the laws, in this area, tend to demand that the body land inside the house. No matter the intent of the attacking person.
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They have already
Estimated the Coverage of the sky with over 40,000? low earth sats.
Dont think you will be able to get a SOLID line of sight for awhile.
And I get 300mbps from my Hardline to cable, at $60.
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AND STILL,
Who is responsible for Spam, on my Email as well as my Phone?
Getting spam from Panama(??) and the Phone stuff is abit stupid, what is a 844 code? Insurance, car insurance, Medical, Social security, and a few others.
WHO DO YOU CALL?
Ghost busters went out of business.
On the post: DHS Cyber Warriors Issue Warning About Massive Hacking Campaign, Disclose They've Been Hacked A Day Later
Re: Re: Alternate speculation: NSA broke into Dominion, got the
FS.
Can you guess the fault in that?
That Both parties evaluated the Hardware and software.
And unless they Paid off the Evaluator(another corp, probably)
They should have closed and sealed EACH machine. And at the end, checked that nothing has changed.
On the post: DHS Cyber Warriors Issue Warning About Massive Hacking Campaign, Disclose They've Been Hacked A Day Later
Soo.
All these corps/agencies and such.
Are leaning on a 3rd party to do WHAT?
But then they are GIVEN a .DLL, that they DIDNT OPEN AND ANALISE before Installing on Customer computers?
So we have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd party situation, where NO ONE Evaluated the original data in a REQUIRED PROGRAM?
This Really sounds like a setup.
"Orion Platform products monitor the health and performance of your network through ICMP, SNMP, WMI, API, and Syslog communication and data collection."
Ok, this is interesting. This program is to Monitor hardware and Watch for failure? Also it monitors other small programs that are traps and data transfer?
God help us. Why are we paying for this IF' this company allows a 3rd party program, that HASNT been checked and evaluated.
Also, NOW we know the problem with AUTOMATED SECURITY.
There Should only be 1 way this could work. IF it wasnt Augmenting programs/data(ya, it was a security program), it could stay hidden along time just by reading/copying Data and shipping it out, Probably in small batches.
Otherwise if DATA changes/erases/added SHOULD created a Log file of what happened. and if this DID happen, and it took THIS LONG? we need better Network People. GET away from the corps.
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If they can ever
Be able to sort these 2 closely related groups, its going to be a strange day.
"One study by Xu et al. (2008), using samples from Hetian (Hotan) only, found Uyghurs have about 60% European or South-West Asian ancestry and about 40% East Asian or Siberian ancestry. From the same area, it is found that the proportion of East Asian/Siberian ancestry in Uyghurs ranges individually from 15.7% to 59.7%, and the proportion of European/West Asian ancestry in Uyghurs ranges individually from 40.3% to 84.3%"
1 of a couple studies. and the whole of it is the Edges of the country. Where the old trade routes used to be. You might as well, have a program in the USA to Sort out every person from ALL the EU from generations ago. After having 4-5 countries blood mixed into things, can you Sort out 3-5 Races from 1 person.
Seems as bad as Hitler and others trying to Sort out the population. 1/2 of Africa Nations have tried it. Even the USA has tried it a few times. Esp. after the Corps got done having them WORK for CHEAP.
In all of this there is little reasoning, except to Lower the population of the nation.
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Re: You say S230 benefits at same time say can be taken away!
"WHERE is the benefit to The Public, Maz?"\
COMMUNIST^^^^ SOCIALIST^^^
Get OFF IT.
This is a capitalist system. He who dies with the most money WINS.
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Re: Gotta make a buck
BUT,
BUT,
Thats the USA way.
I wont say American, because that would need to be Everything form Canada to Patagonia.
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Re: Re: Re:
But they would be fighting Google, but as YT.
Wouild the same be said about GE, and one of its subsidies?
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