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[Sad but True]
Drives me nuts, every time. The worst part is the condescension and whining you get if you don't toe the line. I'm not going to and I'm trolling him for all I'm worth to show our audience he has no clue what he's talking about. My latest gambit: set up your own database and see how this works in practice. He hems, he haws, he's not going to try it out or try to find out how things work in the real world.
It's appointed by Parliament and commissioners can be slapped down, as former Commissioner Karel de Gucht had pointed out to him after ACTA fell on its face. I've not heard from him since. Funny, that.
Good analogy. This guy -- if sucking up to the boss is in the job description he's got a job for life! He really seems to think that nerding harder is the solution. It's not our jobs to fix their messes.
**"Everyone gathered behind the president, whether they voted for him or not. Both political parties stood on the steps of the capitol building together and sang God Bless America."
...which allowed things like the Patriot Act to be pushed through with little to no resistance, declaring wars on people who had nothing to do with 9/11, and which have had far more negative consequences in the long term than that one devastating incident. Had it been acceptable for people to oppose those actions without being accused or being traitors or attacked for being on the side of terrorists, a better outcome would likely have been reached.**
Cynics will be cynics. I remember Bliar, AKA Teflon Tony's little minion announcing it'd be a good day to bury bad news. I know it was a leak of a private conversation but ...dayyyyummm!
There's no point in trying to win Trump cultists over as long as they think he's the Bringer of Rain, or something. He's got a whole media network and a shedload of dark money behind him. If Hannity and Limbaugh decided they'd have enough of him tomorrow, he'd be over and done with in a week -- and everybody knows it.
Bitter? I'm embarrassed for the intelligent Americans on both sides of the aisle who are watching this fiasco unfold between their trembling fingers.
I've been arguing on Twitter with one of their apologists, who acknowledges that the Directive isn't perfect but insists that the unicorns and fairies (automation and "digital fingerprints") will sort out any problems soon enough.
Mike, you missed something: in their laughable FAQs the Commission stated that an agreement would ideally be made between platforms and creators with metadata to identify works under copyright. If agreements are concluded with rights holders, the measures would help them to get an appropriate remuneration for the use of their works. If no such agreements exist, rights holders would need to provide the services with metadata of their content (e.g. "fingerprints") to prevent the upload of specific unauthorised content. If no such metadata is provided to the platforms, they can allow the content to be freely uploaded by the users.
The twerp I was arguing with fell quiet when I pointed out that the very people this Directive is supposed to "protect" thereby won't be since not every uploader bothers with describing the items accurately or identifiably where copyright is concerned. Thus, Prince's estate could lose out on copyright royalties because the metadata on Joe Uploader's compilation of Greatest Eighties Music would not necessarily include a description of each track and the copyright status thereof. "If it fails even the copyright holders," I advised, "it's not worth bothering with."
I had to wade through dismissiveness and arrogance, not to mention accusations of being ignorant and bitter to get to that point.
They really do think that if we nerd hard enough we'll be able to sort this out. but yeah, if we can't get the public interest on the table, perhaps a more effective angle of attack would be that it wouldn't even work for the people the Commission is sucking up to.
That's what I was thinking. This law will go the way of the dodo... assuming government officials who infringe are subject to the same laws as the peons.
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What PaulT says.
I'm Irish with family in France, an end-user of the NHS and my employers get supplies and services from the EU. Basically, Brexit will eff up my life so no, I'm not in favour of it.
Do Brexiters care? Nope. "We're British, we will muddle through." They forget that Dunkirk was about people caring enough about each other to be willing to sacrifice themselves if that's what it took to get Our Boys home. It was not about "Screw you, it's not A problem till it's MY problem."
Re: Re: The EU is losing all legitimacy and credibility as a Dem
Not a mad EU-phile but both of these comments are nonsense.
It was deliberately designed to minimize public influence.
Citation? Seriously, just stop. Irish people are smart; they weren't happy with the option provided to them the first time around and after it had been amended they voted again.
If he somehow manages to undo Nixon's mistake of legitimizing China and allowing them to rise into a global superpower without first taking the time to mature into a responsible society, that will absolutely be a great win for pretty much the entire world.
China rose into a global superpower following Our Glorious Leaders' facilitating the outsourcing of our jobs to them.
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A consulting job with the firm you're shilling for.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The wrong is strong with this one (EU)
[Sad but True]
Drives me nuts, every time. The worst part is the condescension and whining you get if you don't toe the line. I'm not going to and I'm trolling him for all I'm worth to show our audience he has no clue what he's talking about. My latest gambit: set up your own database and see how this works in practice. He hems, he haws, he's not going to try it out or try to find out how things work in the real world.
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It's appointed by Parliament and commissioners can be slapped down, as former Commissioner Karel de Gucht had pointed out to him after ACTA fell on its face. I've not heard from him since. Funny, that.
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To be fair to the guy he does take on revenge porn creeps and send them on their way.
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Re: Re: The wrong is strong with this one (EU)
Good analogy. This guy -- if sucking up to the boss is in the job description he's got a job for life! He really seems to think that nerding harder is the solution. It's not our jobs to fix their messes.
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Re: Re: 9/11 was a national emergency
**"Everyone gathered behind the president, whether they voted for him or not. Both political parties stood on the steps of the capitol building together and sang God Bless America."
...which allowed things like the Patriot Act to be pushed through with little to no resistance, declaring wars on people who had nothing to do with 9/11, and which have had far more negative consequences in the long term than that one devastating incident. Had it been acceptable for people to oppose those actions without being accused or being traitors or attacked for being on the side of terrorists, a better outcome would likely have been reached.**
Cynics will be cynics. I remember Bliar, AKA Teflon Tony's little minion announcing it'd be a good day to bury bad news. I know it was a leak of a private conversation but ...dayyyyummm!
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Re: Re: 9/11 was a national emergency
Agreed. It was good to see people coming together at the time, though.
On the post: United States Gifted With 33rd National Emergency By President Who Says It's Not Really An Emergency
Re: Re: Ssssh
There's no point in trying to win Trump cultists over as long as they think he's the Bringer of Rain, or something. He's got a whole media network and a shedload of dark money behind him. If Hannity and Limbaugh decided they'd have enough of him tomorrow, he'd be over and done with in a week -- and everybody knows it.
Bitter? I'm embarrassed for the intelligent Americans on both sides of the aisle who are watching this fiasco unfold between their trembling fingers.
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Mar-a-Lago
This would explain why El Cheeto promptly sodded off to play golf. It's exactly what you do during an emergency, innit?
That, or read a book about a goat to some kids.
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The wrong is strong with this one (EU)
I've been arguing on Twitter with one of their apologists, who acknowledges that the Directive isn't perfect but insists that the unicorns and fairies (automation and "digital fingerprints") will sort out any problems soon enough.
Mike, you missed something: in their laughable FAQs the Commission stated that an agreement would ideally be made between platforms and creators with metadata to identify works under copyright. If agreements are concluded with rights holders, the measures would help them to get an appropriate remuneration for the use of their works. If no such agreements exist, rights holders would need to provide the services with metadata of their content (e.g. "fingerprints") to prevent the upload of specific unauthorised content. If no such metadata is provided to the platforms, they can allow the content to be freely uploaded by the users.
The twerp I was arguing with fell quiet when I pointed out that the very people this Directive is supposed to "protect" thereby won't be since not every uploader bothers with describing the items accurately or identifiably where copyright is concerned. Thus, Prince's estate could lose out on copyright royalties because the metadata on Joe Uploader's compilation of Greatest Eighties Music would not necessarily include a description of each track and the copyright status thereof. "If it fails even the copyright holders," I advised, "it's not worth bothering with."
I had to wade through dismissiveness and arrogance, not to mention accusations of being ignorant and bitter to get to that point.
They really do think that if we nerd hard enough we'll be able to sort this out. but yeah, if we can't get the public interest on the table, perhaps a more effective angle of attack would be that it wouldn't even work for the people the Commission is sucking up to.
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Re: 'Sounds good. You first.'
That's what I was thinking. This law will go the way of the dodo... assuming government officials who infringe are subject to the same laws as the peons.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The EU is losing all legitimacy and
The EU Commission doesn't own or run the EU. They're about to get slapped down AGAIN over what the smart people are calling "ACTA 2."
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Yet the Brexiteers keep pushing it. The latest line is, "We must respect the referendum result whether it was a con or not."
Stuff that for a game of soldiers. Brexiteers are the most selfish, ignorant, reality-avoidant idiots I know!
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Citation?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The EU is losing all
What PaulT says.
I'm Irish with family in France, an end-user of the NHS and my employers get supplies and services from the EU. Basically, Brexit will eff up my life so no, I'm not in favour of it.
Do Brexiters care? Nope. "We're British, we will muddle through." They forget that Dunkirk was about people caring enough about each other to be willing to sacrifice themselves if that's what it took to get Our Boys home. It was not about "Screw you, it's not A problem till it's MY problem."
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Re: Re: The EU is losing all legitimacy and credibility as a Dem
Not a mad EU-phile but both of these comments are nonsense.
It was deliberately designed to minimize public influence.
Citation? Seriously, just stop. Irish people are smart; they weren't happy with the option provided to them the first time around and after it had been amended they voted again.
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Re: By the way, "Ressa" is probably a CIA agent.
Voted funny. Adjust your tinfoil, your hair is showing.
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What, you want a list of atrocities committed by Western people?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd_Jr. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_8 ,_2003_journalist_deaths_by_U.S._fire
Don't get me started on Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, lynchings, slavery, and the ongoing family separations.
Meanwhile, in the UK: https://news4trafford.co.uk/2017/10/15/81000-people-died-in-just-three-years-because-of-benefit-cuts -and-sanctions/ https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/27/hostile-environment-anatomy-of-a-pol icy-disaster
Don't get me started on Brexit or our appalling policy of sucking up to dictators for military £££.
Seriously, we can start condemning others for their horrible policies and actions AFTER we've dealt with our own.
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If he somehow manages to undo Nixon's mistake of legitimizing China and allowing them to rise into a global superpower without first taking the time to mature into a responsible society, that will absolutely be a great win for pretty much the entire world.
China rose into a global superpower following Our Glorious Leaders' facilitating the outsourcing of our jobs to them.
https://www.epi.org/publication/china-trade-outsourcing-and-jobs/
https://www.researchgate.net/publ ication/272815468_Outsourcing_to_China_Opportunities_Threats_and_Strategic_Fit
https://digitalcommon s.ilr.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1 012&context=laborunions
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/trade-outsourcing-jobs
https://www.tni. org/es/node/8874
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Errrrrrmmmmm... it's not okay when our side does it, Mason. The only major difference is that, at least on paper, we're not supposed to.
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