Re: Re: Re: Re: This is why it's being called "ACTA 2"
Yep. As I've already said it's best to personalise your comments to match their biases. I asked the UKIP MEP's not to sell us out to the Yanks during the ACTA campaign because they're xenophobic little sods.
These days you'd be asking them not to let the EU dictate what we can or can't do online as this would affect British people even when we're out of the EU.
Pro-EU MEPs would be asked to vote against it in the name of encouraging faith in the EU as an organisation that works for the public good. Be creatively manipulative -- the lobbyists are.
I got involved in writing to American Congressmen and Senators over SOPA. You could contact our MEPs if you wanted to, advising that you're American with European friends and explaining how this would affect you. We need all the help we can get.
Eh? PaulT and I are different people. I'm a woman living in the UK, and I'm fairly certain he resides in Spain. We sometimes disagree but I respect him because he's often right.
If you want to spend your life being all paranoid and stuff knock yourself out. I've got better things to do. Oh, if it helps any, I used to do web design for a living, then got out due to the market being saturated for the small and medium-sized businesses I was aiming at. I got into TD and politics over SOPA when I realised that any random sod could accuse me of copyright infringement and get my site blocked on that alone. I still keep my hand in by helping out my friends as and when required. I joined the Pirate Party about that time and have been a supporter ever since, but since I tend towards traditional conservatism I disagree with some of my party's stances on things like UBI. I'm most active on Twitter these days, banging on about how stupid Brexit is.
The Russians have swung hard to the right, genius.
The idea of the commons is as old as the hills. Or do you believe that heritage and history began and ended with the greatest capitalists, the British East India Company?
Wendy who? I'm all about the common good. Belief in the commons is about as conservative as you can get given that it pre-dates capitalism by thousands of years.
Re: Re: Re: The EU is simply being run by evil people who hate u
Erm... no. That's not the way anything works. Get to know the Pirate MEP Julia Reda. She does a better job of representing my interests than the British ones.
Given the number of right-wing weirdos who have co-opted the movement, I'll pass. This is not about making us unhappy it's about inserting themselves as gatekeepers. The orderly, logical, problem-solving way of dealing with this is to contact your MEP and ask him or her to vote against this.
Last time we did that over ACTA the House was full of flowers bought by the grateful public. Those MEPs who are still in office since 2012 will have remembered that. Remember also that copyright on the left is about rewarding creators' efforts of hand and brain so that's your angle of attack: the copyright holder isn't always the creator and the public interest is being harmed. On the right it's about property; your angle of attack is to advise your MEP that copyright is a temporary monopoly privilege and that the "own it now on DVD, etc." trope is a lie. We don't own it, we only licence it, and even then it can be grabbed off us or rendered useless by the rightsholder at any time. What about our property rights?
The more thoughtful and considerate you are the more likely it is that your argument will be considered. They will reject out of hand any comments that seem threatening or boilerplate. Make them personal.
Per Rick Falkvinge they're being hammered on all sides by lobbyists. If they only hear from lobbyists they'll go with the lobbyists but each lobbyist only has one vote, so if they hear more from the people than from the lobbyists...
This can still be stopped, but it's going to rely on the EU Parliament actually having a backbone and saying that this is not acceptable. And that is going to require people in Europe to contact their MEPs and telling them not to wreck the internet.
On July 04 2012 we the people defeated ACTA by contacting our MEPs and asking them to vote against it. The result was spectacular, to say the least.
The people: 478
Pro-ACTA: 39
I remind people of this glorious fact every once in a while because, as I've often said, pressure works. So pile on the damn pressure and give me another democratic win to gloat about!
Those are the UK ones. If every citizen of every member state emails and calls their MEPs to ask them to vote against Articles 11 and 13 we will defeat the maximalists again. What are you waiting for?
Oh, and it might be worth asking if they're allergic to flowers. Wink
I can conform there is a fair amount of dumbassery in this country due to people relying on the popular press for information, on their feelings, and on groupthink. Actually thinking for yourself is discouraged so you've got to be willing to lose friends and alienate people if you don't walk with the herd.
There are people I can't discuss Brexit with because it's such a sacred cow to them. Seriously, don't get me started...!
Masnick LIES that it's "the community" with a "voting system" -- without any up votes even possible! Techdirt provides the means and an Administrator approves, so it's another LIE that the site isn't moderating.
What do you think the report button is for, troll?
So much ignorance in two short sentences! Had your screen name been "Mr. Big Content" I'd have chuckled and laughed it off but you're serious?
Okay, what's a paper can?
Assuming "can" is a typo where does that leave my hastily scribbled post-it notes?
The public domain is not obliged to negotiate jack, which is why it's called "public domain." The implication of the name is that anything covered by PD does not need to be negotiated at all. Have fun selling canned air.
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Citation?
Do you even know the difference between the EU Commission and the EU Parliament? Do you know who is the boss of either of the two?
The EU is not a monolithic entity, it's a group of individuals and groups with intersecting and competing interests.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: This is why it's being called "ACTA 2"
Yep. As I've already said it's best to personalise your comments to match their biases. I asked the UKIP MEP's not to sell us out to the Yanks during the ACTA campaign because they're xenophobic little sods.
These days you'd be asking them not to let the EU dictate what we can or can't do online as this would affect British people even when we're out of the EU.
Pro-EU MEPs would be asked to vote against it in the name of encouraging faith in the EU as an organisation that works for the public good. Be creatively manipulative -- the lobbyists are.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Common Good
Ever heard of Tim Berners-Lee?
Right-wing extremism is a mental illness, people.
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Re: Re: This is why it's being called "ACTA 2"
I got involved in writing to American Congressmen and Senators over SOPA. You could contact our MEPs if you wanted to, advising that you're American with European friends and explaining how this would affect you. We need all the help we can get.
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Re: Re: Re: The Common Good
Eh? PaulT and I are different people. I'm a woman living in the UK, and I'm fairly certain he resides in Spain. We sometimes disagree but I respect him because he's often right.
If you want to spend your life being all paranoid and stuff knock yourself out. I've got better things to do. Oh, if it helps any, I used to do web design for a living, then got out due to the market being saturated for the small and medium-sized businesses I was aiming at. I got into TD and politics over SOPA when I realised that any random sod could accuse me of copyright infringement and get my site blocked on that alone. I still keep my hand in by helping out my friends as and when required. I joined the Pirate Party about that time and have been a supporter ever since, but since I tend towards traditional conservatism I disagree with some of my party's stances on things like UBI. I'm most active on Twitter these days, banging on about how stupid Brexit is.
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Re: The Common Good
The Russians have swung hard to the right, genius.
The idea of the commons is as old as the hills. Or do you believe that heritage and history began and ended with the greatest capitalists, the British East India Company?
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Re: Re: Re: The Common Good
Wendy who? I'm all about the common good. Belief in the commons is about as conservative as you can get given that it pre-dates capitalism by thousands of years.
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Re: I know this is showing my naivete on this..
If the publishers had their way copyright would be enshrined in law as a human right. https://www.internationalpublishers.org/images/Copyright.pdf
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121 019/12333120767/no-copyright-is-not-human-right.shtml
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Re: Re: Re: The EU is simply being run by evil people who hate u
Erm... no. That's not the way anything works. Get to know the Pirate MEP Julia Reda. She does a better job of representing my interests than the British ones.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Given the number of right-wing weirdos who have co-opted the movement, I'll pass. This is not about making us unhappy it's about inserting themselves as gatekeepers. The orderly, logical, problem-solving way of dealing with this is to contact your MEP and ask him or her to vote against this.
Last time we did that over ACTA the House was full of flowers bought by the grateful public. Those MEPs who are still in office since 2012 will have remembered that. Remember also that copyright on the left is about rewarding creators' efforts of hand and brain so that's your angle of attack: the copyright holder isn't always the creator and the public interest is being harmed. On the right it's about property; your angle of attack is to advise your MEP that copyright is a temporary monopoly privilege and that the "own it now on DVD, etc." trope is a lie. We don't own it, we only licence it, and even then it can be grabbed off us or rendered useless by the rightsholder at any time. What about our property rights?
The more thoughtful and considerate you are the more likely it is that your argument will be considered. They will reject out of hand any comments that seem threatening or boilerplate. Make them personal.
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Re: Re:
Per Rick Falkvinge they're being hammered on all sides by lobbyists. If they only hear from lobbyists they'll go with the lobbyists but each lobbyist only has one vote, so if they hear more from the people than from the lobbyists...
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This is why it's being called "ACTA 2"
This can still be stopped, but it's going to rely on the EU Parliament actually having a backbone and saying that this is not acceptable. And that is going to require people in Europe to contact their MEPs and telling them not to wreck the internet.
On July 04 2012 we the people defeated ACTA by contacting our MEPs and asking them to vote against it. The result was spectacular, to say the least.
The people: 478 Pro-ACTA: 39
I remind people of this glorious fact every once in a while because, as I've often said, pressure works. So pile on the damn pressure and give me another democratic win to gloat about!
Here you go: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/your-meps/uk_meps.html
Those are the UK ones. If every citizen of every member state emails and calls their MEPs to ask them to vote against Articles 11 and 13 we will defeat the maximalists again. What are you waiting for?
Oh, and it might be worth asking if they're allergic to flowers. Wink
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Spellcheck fail
...if this allegation has wait...
*weight
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Re: Over reaction?
Britain doesn't have a hand. It's on its knees lying to the public in the name of democracy.
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*confirm
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Re: Re: Re:
I can conform there is a fair amount of dumbassery in this country due to people relying on the popular press for information, on their feelings, and on groupthink. Actually thinking for yourself is discouraged so you've got to be willing to lose friends and alienate people if you don't walk with the herd.
There are people I can't discuss Brexit with because it's such a sacred cow to them. Seriously, don't get me started...!
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[Sad but True]
The vast majority of idiots are now on the right because conservatives allowed the term to be co-opted by the wingnuts.
I see idiots on the left, too, but they're not dominating social and political discourse.
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Re: Re: Show it or stow it, kid.
Masnick LIES that it's "the community" with a "voting system" -- without any up votes even possible! Techdirt provides the means and an Administrator approves, so it's another LIE that the site isn't moderating.
What do you think the report button is for, troll?
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Re: Ownership
So much ignorance in two short sentences! Had your screen name been "Mr. Big Content" I'd have chuckled and laughed it off but you're serious?
Okay, what's a paper can?
Assuming "can" is a typo where does that leave my hastily scribbled post-it notes?
The public domain is not obliged to negotiate jack, which is why it's called "public domain." The implication of the name is that anything covered by PD does not need to be negotiated at all. Have fun selling canned air.
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Re: Re: I Disagree Wholly, Deep Fakes Are A Terrifying Medium Fo
We're there now, hence the wholesale denial of verifiable truth we see every day, and the increasing reliance on gut feelings and groupthink.
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