in that game, It is you on the wrong side. You are a Sample Troll using legal gamesmanship to steal from hard working artists!
Eroding Fair Use isn't a real smart idea, regardless of which side you are on.
Fair Use helps keep copyright from running afoul of the First Amendment protection on Free Speech in the US.
Erode it too far and copyright in it's current form could be found unconstitutional. The First Amendment would trump the copyright clause because the First Amendment is very specific limitations of governmental power, whereas the copyright clause only states that "[...]Congress shall have Power To[...]" and isn't actually a requirement.
What Linux really needs (IMO) is to get to the point where a search for how to do something in Linux easily and quickly turns up instructions for how to do it without opening a terminal.
Yeah, I'll agree with you there.
While I am comfortable using the terminal and command lines (my first real computer learning experiences were with a computer with IBM PC-DOS 1.1 back in the early 80's), I tend to do most things on Debian with the GUI interfaces too and when I need to search for how to do something I usually end up parsing the terminal commands into the GUI world and use those tools instead. Nautilus to move and copy files and to change permissions. Synaptic instead of apt-get for packages. And so on.
This weekend I will be installing Linux and the weekend after that...and the weekend after that...and the weekend after that...
Huh. To be honest, that scenario has been more prevalent with Windows for me. My laptop has been running Debian AMD64 for a couple of years now. The times I've had to reinstall Debian were because I was messing around and mucked up something in the /root directory as a superuser. I also had to reinstall when I migrated to 64-bit and another time when I reduced my Windows partition to less then a quarter of my hard drive space to give more to Debian.
There is one aspect when dealing with malware on a GNU/Linux that is far superior to Windows.
By keeping my /root and /home directories on separate partitions I can reload (or change) my entire OS in an hour or so without losing my settings, data or custom tweaks.
I have no clue how much time I've spent in my life reinstalling Windows installations because of infections or whatnot and then having to find and reinstall every program I use again, but it's definitely time I could have spent on more productive endeavors.
So you really, truly don't accept that anyone else's actions can have a detrimental effect on a person, no matter what they do to them?
That's not what I said at all. All sorts of things have detrimental effects on people all the time. I'm just not going to jump up on the Blame Game Bandwagon for an individual's personal decision.
Solicitation of suicide has a pretty high legal bar. It needs (I believe, IAMAL) to involve specific instructions to a specific individual. Just saying "you should kill yourself" wouldn't pass the sniff test. I'm not sure about the case of the anonymous woman, but I can guarantee the ADA in Swartz's case didn't do anything like that.
My argument is, creating the conditions for a crime (or self-harming event) to take place is equivalent to criminal solicitation and should be treated as such. Let that slide and you have all sorts of crazy stuff going on and the people responsible getting away with it.
I disagree. That slope is way, way too slippery. What's next? Blaming the victims in a school shooting because they were once said something mean to the shooter? Blaming a rapist's mother because she spanked him when he was young? I mean, seriously, isn't there enough of that shit going on already these days? Everything is someone else's fault and nobody wants to take responsibility for their own actions.
Your argument appears to be, "People live in an emotional and social vacuum. They make decisions free of outside influence, nor can any influence be brought to bear upon them." That is not true.
That's not my argument nor what I believe. I just think blame should be placed where it belongs.
Whether or not Cheney was lying, this is another example of Mother Jones violating the privacy of an individual...
I'm not sure this was a really privacy violation myself. Although the speech wasn't open to the press or the general public, it was still statements he himself made in a public speech.
...and then writing a story about what he supposedly said.
At this point there is nothing "supposed" about it since there is an actual audio copy of the speech.
I've already had this argument with Mason Wheeler. Victim-blaming is obscene. Stop it.
How is this "victim-blaming"? The final decision to commit suicide resides with the person committing suicide. Period. Full stop. Nothing anyone else does changes this fact one iota.
You are blaming those who have no say whatsoever in what is ultimately a personal decision. It's like blaming me because you went ahead and drank that expired milk this morning and got sick.
I really do question people who think the way you do. Have you REALLY never suffered so much you couldn't take it any more? Have you never seen anyone else suffer to the point of a mental breakdown? If you've never experienced real suffering, good for you. I've seen people's lives torn apart by trauma and I've seen the results.
I've had some very, very low points in my life, but suicide was never a viable options. I value life too much.
But I see time and again architects copyrighting blueprints of work already done by others century and a half earlier.
Copyright for architectural plans are for the drawings themselves, not the building. You can't stop someone from photographing a building made from your plans nor can you stop the building owner from changing or destroying the building he owns.
Kind of like how a copyright on a recipe protects that particular expression of the recipe, but nothing prevents someone from actually cooking the dish the recipe describes.
I always liked the eroded and exposed hunks of concrete sticking up around the legs of all the playground equipment in my day. They added a dangerous element to everything.
Man, those were the days back then, when we used to let Natural Selection do it's thing to improve humankind.
You assholes were nearly unanimous that the woman could not be held accountable for this unfortunate suicide of a CHILD.
Now you sanctimonious hypocrites want to blame the prosecutors for the suicide of an ADULT with the financial and legal resources to defend himself.
Personally, I don't blame the "bully" in either of those situations, nor do I hold them accountable per se. Bottom line is that suicide is a personal decision and the blame always resides with the individual committing the act.
Now that said, both of the "bullies" in these situations were assholes and do have some amount of moral (if not legal) culpability for the suicides, in my opinion.
There is one major distinction between the two that you are minimizing though. Some anonymous idiot on the internet does not hold the power to incarcerate you and destroy your future like an Assistant U.S. Attorney does.
With great power comes great responsibility and in my humble opinion, Mr. Stephen Heymann showed an extreme lack of responsibility in his quest for headlines and notoriety.
It's the same action bank robbers and liquor store stick-up boys take to keep from being identified committing their crimes.
And he was trespassing at the time. Covering up his face may implicate him on the trespassing charge, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the CFAA charges brought by the Federal government.
I believe he was willing to face the charges for the trespassing, but didn't believe that what he did was anything more that a minor misdemeanor.
He was previously investigated by the FBI for a similar stunt and knew, or should have known that he was putting himself in legal peril. But he did it anyway.
He was previously investigated and was found to have nothing done illegal because the documents were all in the public domain.
If Aaron had finished downloading the JSTOR database and released ONLY the ones that were in the public domain, it would have been the exact same situation here too. (with the small exception of trespassing in the wiring closet).
You take his previous actions as evidence of wrong doing in the MIT affair. I see it as a learning experience and he knew exactly what was illegal and what wasn't.
Wouldn't the cost of extra training, developing, and whatnot be offset by a huge degree by not having to fork over a fortune in licenses every year for proprietary software?
On the scale you are dealing with, even just the switch from MS Office to LibreOffice would be a significant savings.
I'll defer to your apparent knowledge on the 1st and 3nd points. Those sound like reasonable concerns.
On the second one concerning supportability though, isn't that really just a matter of developing tools and training for Linux that are equivalent to what the first line guys are using now?
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Maybe, but only if you believe those implanted RFID chips are ONLY for finding lost pets.
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lolwut?
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Yes - just like Tim said:
Next time do a bit more digging before you get everyone up in arms.
Next time actually read the article before condemming it. Just sayin'
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in that game, It is you on the wrong side. You are a Sample Troll using legal gamesmanship to steal from hard working artists!
Eroding Fair Use isn't a real smart idea, regardless of which side you are on.
Fair Use helps keep copyright from running afoul of the First Amendment protection on Free Speech in the US.
Erode it too far and copyright in it's current form could be found unconstitutional. The First Amendment would trump the copyright clause because the First Amendment is very specific limitations of governmental power, whereas the copyright clause only states that "[...]Congress shall have Power To[...]" and isn't actually a requirement.
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Yeah, I'll agree with you there.
While I am comfortable using the terminal and command lines (my first real computer learning experiences were with a computer with IBM PC-DOS 1.1 back in the early 80's), I tend to do most things on Debian with the GUI interfaces too and when I need to search for how to do something I usually end up parsing the terminal commands into the GUI world and use those tools instead. Nautilus to move and copy files and to change permissions. Synaptic instead of apt-get for packages. And so on.
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Re: This weekend I will be installing Linux
and the weekend after that...and the weekend after that...and the weekend after that...
Huh. To be honest, that scenario has been more prevalent with Windows for me. My laptop has been running Debian AMD64 for a couple of years now. The times I've had to reinstall Debian were because I was messing around and mucked up something in the /root directory as a superuser. I also had to reinstall when I migrated to 64-bit and another time when I reduced my Windows partition to less then a quarter of my hard drive space to give more to Debian.
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True.
More often then not (for me at least) System Restore doesn't fix the problems I've run up against.
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By keeping my /root and /home directories on separate partitions I can reload (or change) my entire OS in an hour or so without losing my settings, data or custom tweaks.
I have no clue how much time I've spent in my life reinstalling Windows installations because of infections or whatnot and then having to find and reinstall every program I use again, but it's definitely time I could have spent on more productive endeavors.
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That's not what I said at all. All sorts of things have detrimental effects on people all the time. I'm just not going to jump up on the Blame Game Bandwagon for an individual's personal decision.
Solicitation of suicide has a pretty high legal bar. It needs (I believe, IAMAL) to involve specific instructions to a specific individual. Just saying "you should kill yourself" wouldn't pass the sniff test. I'm not sure about the case of the anonymous woman, but I can guarantee the ADA in Swartz's case didn't do anything like that.
My argument is, creating the conditions for a crime (or self-harming event) to take place is equivalent to criminal solicitation and should be treated as such. Let that slide and you have all sorts of crazy stuff going on and the people responsible getting away with it.
I disagree. That slope is way, way too slippery. What's next? Blaming the victims in a school shooting because they were once said something mean to the shooter? Blaming a rapist's mother because she spanked him when he was young? I mean, seriously, isn't there enough of that shit going on already these days? Everything is someone else's fault and nobody wants to take responsibility for their own actions.
Your argument appears to be, "People live in an emotional and social vacuum. They make decisions free of outside influence, nor can any influence be brought to bear upon them." That is not true.
That's not my argument nor what I believe. I just think blame should be placed where it belongs.
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I'm not sure this was a really privacy violation myself. Although the speech wasn't open to the press or the general public, it was still statements he himself made in a public speech.
...and then writing a story about what he supposedly said.
At this point there is nothing "supposed" about it since there is an actual audio copy of the speech.
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How is this "victim-blaming"? The final decision to commit suicide resides with the person committing suicide. Period. Full stop. Nothing anyone else does changes this fact one iota.
You are blaming those who have no say whatsoever in what is ultimately a personal decision. It's like blaming me because you went ahead and drank that expired milk this morning and got sick.
I really do question people who think the way you do. Have you REALLY never suffered so much you couldn't take it any more? Have you never seen anyone else suffer to the point of a mental breakdown? If you've never experienced real suffering, good for you. I've seen people's lives torn apart by trauma and I've seen the results.
I've had some very, very low points in my life, but suicide was never a viable options. I value life too much.
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Copyright for architectural plans are for the drawings themselves, not the building. You can't stop someone from photographing a building made from your plans nor can you stop the building owner from changing or destroying the building he owns.
Kind of like how a copyright on a recipe protects that particular expression of the recipe, but nothing prevents someone from actually cooking the dish the recipe describes.
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Man, those were the days back then, when we used to let Natural Selection do it's thing to improve humankind.
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Re: Totally off offf offfff topic. popehat anonymous
Looks that way to me.
www.popehat.com is showing an Anonymous banner with the window title of "You've been hacked by Anonymous" and all sub-pages are returning 404 errors.
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Now you sanctimonious hypocrites want to blame the prosecutors for the suicide of an ADULT with the financial and legal resources to defend himself.
Personally, I don't blame the "bully" in either of those situations, nor do I hold them accountable per se. Bottom line is that suicide is a personal decision and the blame always resides with the individual committing the act.
Now that said, both of the "bullies" in these situations were assholes and do have some amount of moral (if not legal) culpability for the suicides, in my opinion.
There is one major distinction between the two that you are minimizing though. Some anonymous idiot on the internet does not hold the power to incarcerate you and destroy your future like an Assistant U.S. Attorney does.
With great power comes great responsibility and in my humble opinion, Mr. Stephen Heymann showed an extreme lack of responsibility in his quest for headlines and notoriety.
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And he was trespassing at the time. Covering up his face may implicate him on the trespassing charge, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the CFAA charges brought by the Federal government.
I believe he was willing to face the charges for the trespassing, but didn't believe that what he did was anything more that a minor misdemeanor.
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He was previously investigated and was found to have nothing done illegal because the documents were all in the public domain.
If Aaron had finished downloading the JSTOR database and released ONLY the ones that were in the public domain, it would have been the exact same situation here too. (with the small exception of trespassing in the wiring closet).
You take his previous actions as evidence of wrong doing in the MIT affair. I see it as a learning experience and he knew exactly what was illegal and what wasn't.
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Wouldn't the cost of extra training, developing, and whatnot be offset by a huge degree by not having to fork over a fortune in licenses every year for proprietary software?
On the scale you are dealing with, even just the switch from MS Office to LibreOffice would be a significant savings.
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I'll defer to your apparent knowledge on the 1st and 3nd points. Those sound like reasonable concerns.
On the second one concerning supportability though, isn't that really just a matter of developing tools and training for Linux that are equivalent to what the first line guys are using now?
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