I dunno, Groaker. It may shake the partisans out of their "No, U!" stupor and lead to a campaign to reform the electoral system. Imagine what proportional representation could to to counteract the gerrymandering that maintains the status quo.
Obama is a neocon. A Bush-era neocon who carried on Bush's neocon policies while throwing a little red meat to the Progressive base to keep them on side.
That was not down to Obama. That was neoliberalism falling on its face while the Right went nuts and blamed immigrants, minorities, and government itself for the problems caused by hoarding unearned wealth and robbing workers by not paying them enough to live on.
Meanwhile, the liberals, progressives, and what Americans tend to think of as the left decided to blame poor white people for voting for the wrong representatives and harangued them for taking the wrong side in the culture wars.
It's a case of authoritarians seeking out a scapegoat to blame and a boogeyman to fear while utterly refusing to resolve the problem as the status quo keeps them rolling in dough.
Stop falling for partisan lies and get ready to fight for your civil rights. You are just as much at risk as the rest of us and we need you on side.
Yes, that's true. Neither is any better than the other. They're each the worst choice possible on a range of issues, some of which they differ on.
Hillary, however, is capable of being embarrassed. Trump is not. That capability could have been exploited to wring more concessions on surveillance, etc., out of her. Heck, she turned her tail on TPP when she thought she might lose out to Bernie! And yes, we know she'd have put it right back on the table citing RCEP and how China and India are working with a range of Pacific nations and freezing out the USA.
But now Trump is here and don't worry, you can expect to hear something similar from him. He's already broken his other promises, why not this one?
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They fell for the partisan nonsense that keeps people at each other's throats for no good reason.
Obama is a neocon. Trump is not a neocon but he is very much further to the right than Obama ever was.
Neocon is not a left wing position: American Congressional politics is dominated by the right and the far right. Yes, there are some progressives and liberals (these are quite different from each other) and perhaps a few real lefties but they don't have much power in either House.
All that SJW nonsense you read about is extremist progressivism. They're not all like that and few of them would advocate having government take over all enterprise and ban private property.
If we can all accept that not everyone who disagrees with us is the most extreme example of the opposite position we can imagine, we'll be able to work together to campaign against the shredding of our civil liberties that's about to come our way. Remember, any new laws will have to go through Congress for approval. If we all work together we can campaign against them. Representatives still have to answer to the electorate so let's stay calm and be ready to support anyone who's on our side on the particular issues we need support for. We can argue about our differences later.
Me too, given that Stalin was a brutal authoritarian. This is not a partisan issue, labels are just the difference in flavour, that's all.
It's authoritarianism — whoever is doing it — that we should be calling out every time we see it and no one ought to get a pass just because he or she is flying the flag for a particular team. Who's with me? They can't divide us if we're united and we're harder to divide once we understand that we've got much more in common than we often realise.
America doesn't really have a left as such. There's progressive, liberal, libertarian, moderate conservatives, and various factions in the alt-right.
Can we please stop calling everyone who disagrees with the far right factions "leftists?" This really annoys me because it's not true. You want left wing politics? Go and check out Jeremy Corbyn. That is left wing.
I don't often see progressives advocating state control of industry.
You may be right. Crash, burn, reset. What I didn't see coming was the impending reset of the Dems. If they get their act together you might end up with a decent opposition that does its job instead of playing along or being obstructive for partisan reasons.
Why do I keep having flashbacks of Buford T. Justice from Smokey and the Bandit every time I read about the FBI wanting to be the CIA when it grows up?
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Accuse him of what he actually did!
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That was not down to Obama. That was neoliberalism falling on its face while the Right went nuts and blamed immigrants, minorities, and government itself for the problems caused by hoarding unearned wealth and robbing workers by not paying them enough to live on.
Meanwhile, the liberals, progressives, and what Americans tend to think of as the left decided to blame poor white people for voting for the wrong representatives and harangued them for taking the wrong side in the culture wars.
It's a case of authoritarians seeking out a scapegoat to blame and a boogeyman to fear while utterly refusing to resolve the problem as the status quo keeps them rolling in dough.
Stop falling for partisan lies and get ready to fight for your civil rights. You are just as much at risk as the rest of us and we need you on side.
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Of course you realise that Trump's expansion of "all the things!" means making the government bigger, right?
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Hillary, however, is capable of being embarrassed. Trump is not. That capability could have been exploited to wring more concessions on surveillance, etc., out of her. Heck, she turned her tail on TPP when she thought she might lose out to Bernie! And yes, we know she'd have put it right back on the table citing RCEP and how China and India are working with a range of Pacific nations and freezing out the USA.
But now Trump is here and don't worry, you can expect to hear something similar from him. He's already broken his other promises, why not this one?
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Obama is a neocon. Trump is not a neocon but he is very much further to the right than Obama ever was.
Neocon is not a left wing position: American Congressional politics is dominated by the right and the far right. Yes, there are some progressives and liberals (these are quite different from each other) and perhaps a few real lefties but they don't have much power in either House.
All that SJW nonsense you read about is extremist progressivism. They're not all like that and few of them would advocate having government take over all enterprise and ban private property.
If we can all accept that not everyone who disagrees with us is the most extreme example of the opposite position we can imagine, we'll be able to work together to campaign against the shredding of our civil liberties that's about to come our way. Remember, any new laws will have to go through Congress for approval. If we all work together we can campaign against them. Representatives still have to answer to the electorate so let's stay calm and be ready to support anyone who's on our side on the particular issues we need support for. We can argue about our differences later.
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tl;dr: you'd lose. Badly.
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It's authoritarianism — whoever is doing it — that we should be calling out every time we see it and no one ought to get a pass just because he or she is flying the flag for a particular team. Who's with me? They can't divide us if we're united and we're harder to divide once we understand that we've got much more in common than we often realise.
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Can we please stop calling everyone who disagrees with the far right factions "leftists?" This really annoys me because it's not true. You want left wing politics? Go and check out Jeremy Corbyn. That is left wing.
I don't often see progressives advocating state control of industry.
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I'm not in the least bit surprised to note that "government" is in the eye of the beholder and depends on what flavour of morality you prefer.
Speaking of morality, if the present president had any, he'd be implementing the suggestions made in the article.
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Don't believe me? Read this: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/kill-stock-buyback-to-save-the-american-economy/ 385259/
So like I said, it's not a good indicator of what's happening in the real world where we live.
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