better: by a damn wallet. even the cheap ones here have a dedicated compartment for coins.
(i will never understand why they put dividers in it though. the coins never stay in the damn sub-pockets and ... let's just say it'd be a heck of a lot more practical to not bother)
actually, they do it because 5ml is a pain in the arse to measure properly by any method because it's tiny. here at least. also, if you put 5ml in any measuring device and you'll get about 3ml of actual medicine in your system because the rest gets stuck at the bottom of the cup or what have you.
the teaspoon's the right size, and nothing stays stuck in it.
the distance from the tip of the middle finger to the bone you can feel in your elbow when your arm's bent, if i remember rightly. it's less variable than the size of a foot etc.
that said, the system used in egypt was to define a 'cubit' at the beginning of a project, by actually measuring the arm of the architect or person who wanted the project built, then making a bunch of standard length rods that size. i think, but am not entirely sure as i don't rightly remember, that the temple (and tabernacle), were built to a set size, given in cubits, and the standard size a cubit would then be defined based on that... but honestly i'm guessing there. (a reasonable guess though, when the temple's exact size is listed in your scriptures, and the building's Right There in your capital)
Technically it goes millimeter, centimeter, decimeter, meter, decameter, centameter(? not sure on that one) kilo meter. likewise with liters. i dunno what's up with grams (the kilo-gram seems to fill the slot of meters and liters, and then you get up to tonnes (tons? which ever one the imperial measurement isn't) which are like kilo-kilograms...)
most people get by fine with just grams, kilograms, meters, centimeters (millimeters as required) liters, and milliliters, though. (apparently deciliters are quite a common unit in parts of Europe, but here we'd just label the thing in round hundreds of milliliters)
but yeah, the name contains the number of the base unit. standard base ten prefixing.
(also, pure water at sea level gives you something like 1 cubic centimeter = 1 gram = ten milliliters, if i remember rightly. basically lots of ratios work with nice round numbers in metric. that said, it's a heck of a lot easier to make rough estimates by eye with imperial units... at least for distance. there's a reason why most people here still give someone's height in feet (whether they then use fractions of feet or actual inches varies a lot though, and official records and anything involving mathematics will still have it in cm.))
honestly, i just stick it all in my wallet along with my bank card, library card, sundry other membership/id cards, etc, and carry the whole lot when i leave the house.
and all those corporate lawyer types who get content issued by their company, all authorized and the like, taken down on DMCA grounds... (we've had stories of this happening), they're in jail now, right?
given the people who send these types of notices in the first place would often be willing to claim that breathing at the same pitch as some singer who once did an cover song for an advertisement for them was infringing and regularly claim fair use doesn't exist...
i think the first question's more useful, in a 'vaguely associated with reality' sort of way...
legally speaking is an entirely different story mind you.
pretty sure that's arrived at by dividing the cost/price/whatever of the fuel in whatever units it's sold to them in by the number of gallons (which is guaranteed not to produce sane numbers because imperial measures are stupid), and then applying percentage based taxes.
our fuel prices regularly go out to the 100th of a cent per liter. and our cents are worth a fair bit less than a US penny. (and I'm pretty sure a liter is smaller than a gallon, but i can't be bothered looking it up).
of course, it's all rather irrelevant when the system is set up so you can go 'i have $20. give me $20 worth of fuel.' just means you get some weird fraction of a liter at the end. most people either do that or just fill the tank.. and when you're already spending 20-50 dollars or so on fuel, fractions of cents are so utterly irrelevant that the fact that they're there for what are essentially tax and truth-in-advertising purposes doesn't matter at all.
(seriously, i think you'd have to be fueling a ship or something before those numbers matter...)
do you guys still print your notes on paper?
polymer extends the useful life of notes quite a bit. (you have to actually Cut or Burn them to do any damage... though once you cut the edge at all it's pretty much guaranteed to come completely in two)
everyone keeps neglecting the concepts of dollar coins and making change.
the entire transaction requires only four coins, total, if you have 1c,2c,5c,10c,20c,50c, $1 and $2 coins (though a 1 or 2$ note probably works just as well, but defeats the point in the exercise.) and Include the other party's ability to make change.
(or at least this holds true of all the 'uh... no you can't' answers so far)
or, again, if you actually have dollar coins: hand over a dollar and 1, get a 20 and 10 back. (my mum does the equivalent of this all the time. i don't really see the point actually, but still.)
hand over a $1 coin, get a 1c coin back. two coins, all done.
or, more likely, hand over a $1 coin, get nothing back because the penny analog is so utterly worthless that they don't make it any more and round to the nearest 5 instead. only one coin required.
(of course, these days it's the nearest 10c, here abouts, but whatever)
that system usually has 1 and 2 dollar coins as well as 1 and 2 cent coins, so... yeah, 2.50 is two coins. the third coin is the 1c change you get back :D
(well, unless you live somewhere like NZ, where it's 2$, 50c, no coin smaller than a 10c so rounding eats your change if you pay with cash for anything with a price ending in 5,6,7,8 or 9 cents, anyway.)
ah, yes, but these people disagree with you on some minor point, therefor everything you say absolutely Must be an attack on anything they believe, know, agree with, or consider to be right proper and just.
clearly.
(some part of this post is sarcasm. identifying it is left as an exercise for the reader)
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is this liberal in the idiotic pejorative(sp?) US sense? or in the original sense from which the word comes? (i was going to say 'literal' but it's a political meaning in both cases)
if the former: go find a bridge to hide under.
if the latter: um... yeah? so? kinda the point here?
... yeah, NZ eventually got around this issue by tossing the 1 and 2 cent coins and just rounding the totals. (we then also tossed the 5c coin, which means the rounding is no longer an even split each way, but whatever)
of course, at this point, almost everyone uses debit cards for most stuff, which renders the whole issue irrelivant, but there's still plenty of contexts where it makes sense. (on the other hand, the 5 and 10 dollar notes don't seem to get used for much of anything beyond making change anymore, really.)
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(i will never understand why they put dividers in it though. the coins never stay in the damn sub-pockets and ... let's just say it'd be a heck of a lot more practical to not bother)
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the teaspoon's the right size, and nothing stays stuck in it.
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the distance from the tip of the middle finger to the bone you can feel in your elbow when your arm's bent, if i remember rightly. it's less variable than the size of a foot etc.
that said, the system used in egypt was to define a 'cubit' at the beginning of a project, by actually measuring the arm of the architect or person who wanted the project built, then making a bunch of standard length rods that size. i think, but am not entirely sure as i don't rightly remember, that the temple (and tabernacle), were built to a set size, given in cubits, and the standard size a cubit would then be defined based on that... but honestly i'm guessing there. (a reasonable guess though, when the temple's exact size is listed in your scriptures, and the building's Right There in your capital)
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Technically it goes millimeter, centimeter, decimeter, meter, decameter, centameter(? not sure on that one) kilo meter. likewise with liters. i dunno what's up with grams (the kilo-gram seems to fill the slot of meters and liters, and then you get up to tonnes (tons? which ever one the imperial measurement isn't) which are like kilo-kilograms...)
most people get by fine with just grams, kilograms, meters, centimeters (millimeters as required) liters, and milliliters, though. (apparently deciliters are quite a common unit in parts of Europe, but here we'd just label the thing in round hundreds of milliliters)
but yeah, the name contains the number of the base unit. standard base ten prefixing.
(also, pure water at sea level gives you something like 1 cubic centimeter = 1 gram = ten milliliters, if i remember rightly. basically lots of ratios work with nice round numbers in metric. that said, it's a heck of a lot easier to make rough estimates by eye with imperial units... at least for distance. there's a reason why most people here still give someone's height in feet (whether they then use fractions of feet or actual inches varies a lot though, and official records and anything involving mathematics will still have it in cm.))
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and all those corporate lawyer types who get content issued by their company, all authorized and the like, taken down on DMCA grounds... (we've had stories of this happening), they're in jail now, right?
yeeeeeeeeeah, that's what i thought.
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i think the first question's more useful, in a 'vaguely associated with reality' sort of way...
legally speaking is an entirely different story mind you.
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our fuel prices regularly go out to the 100th of a cent per liter. and our cents are worth a fair bit less than a US penny. (and I'm pretty sure a liter is smaller than a gallon, but i can't be bothered looking it up).
of course, it's all rather irrelevant when the system is set up so you can go 'i have $20. give me $20 worth of fuel.' just means you get some weird fraction of a liter at the end. most people either do that or just fill the tank.. and when you're already spending 20-50 dollars or so on fuel, fractions of cents are so utterly irrelevant that the fact that they're there for what are essentially tax and truth-in-advertising purposes doesn't matter at all.
(seriously, i think you'd have to be fueling a ship or something before those numbers matter...)
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polymer extends the useful life of notes quite a bit. (you have to actually Cut or Burn them to do any damage... though once you cut the edge at all it's pretty much guaranteed to come completely in two)
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the entire transaction requires only four coins, total, if you have 1c,2c,5c,10c,20c,50c, $1 and $2 coins (though a 1 or 2$ note probably works just as well, but defeats the point in the exercise.) and Include the other party's ability to make change.
(or at least this holds true of all the 'uh... no you can't' answers so far)
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or, again, if you actually have dollar coins: hand over a dollar and 1, get a 20 and 10 back. (my mum does the equivalent of this all the time. i don't really see the point actually, but still.)
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hand over a $1 coin, get a 1c coin back. two coins, all done.
or, more likely, hand over a $1 coin, get nothing back because the penny analog is so utterly worthless that they don't make it any more and round to the nearest 5 instead. only one coin required.
(of course, these days it's the nearest 10c, here abouts, but whatever)
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so, yeah, you can do it with two coins. hand over the $1 and get a 1c back. done.
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(well, unless you live somewhere like NZ, where it's 2$, 50c, no coin smaller than a 10c so rounding eats your change if you pay with cash for anything with a price ending in 5,6,7,8 or 9 cents, anyway.)
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clearly.
(some part of this post is sarcasm. identifying it is left as an exercise for the reader)
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if the former: go find a bridge to hide under.
if the latter: um... yeah? so? kinda the point here?
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of course, at this point, almost everyone uses debit cards for most stuff, which renders the whole issue irrelivant, but there's still plenty of contexts where it makes sense. (on the other hand, the 5 and 10 dollar notes don't seem to get used for much of anything beyond making change anymore, really.)
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